Remakes?????...........What Remakes????

[Larry Tate]

Thank God we had 3 more seasons of Bewitched with Dick Sargent
I see what is actually to be seen & is on the screen itself.

Others see what they choose to through a prism that is distorted by the affection that they feel for DY, hence I believe the place from where all the hatred for DS comes from by the Yorkies who express it.

What I saw was DS as Darrin clearly in love & devoted to Samantha with great affection for her & totally devoted to being with her evermore.

Most Yorkie's have a negative view but most Bewitched fans in total, although may prefer DY, still very much like & enjoy DS as Darrin & his seasons a great deal.

He was very popular with the original generation of Bewitched fans that count the most the & although they are not as vocal as the Yorkie's they exist just as much to the same extent.

Although the ratings which are a relative thing to other shows did go down, the actual number of Households & people watching Bewitched were actually higher in the DS years then the early DY years for example.

As well the changeover prior to season 6 was not publicised & was largely unknown to the Bewitched Fan base till it happened. So when the fans tuned in to see the first episode of Season 6 they were expecting to still see DY, the ratings for this episode where they were tuning in to see DY were exactly the same as they were for the rest of the season when when they were tuning in to see DS, as they knew of the switch after seeing the first episode btoh were rated # 26.

As well after the switchover there was no reaction from Bewitched fans, nobody called or wrote & cared or had a problem with it.This according to Screen Gems executives of the time like Bill Asher, Harry Ackermen, Richard Baer & Richard Michaels.

Thank goodness that the show did not end after season 5, that would have been a huge mistake & instead it should have been as it was done with the show continuing onwards for 3 more Wonderful Seasons.

Yes, Liz & DS were very good friends in a personal sense while she & DY were merely fellow workers who otherwise were not acquainted & were nothing more, which is why they had zero contact after DY left the show.

The Dynamics of the show as to how the characters such as Darrin, Samantha & Endora etc. interrelated & the Premise of the show was unchanged by the changeover from DY to DS, everything was maintained as it had been with consistency.

The 8th season was excellent & very enjoyable, all this Liz was bored,unhappy, hated being there, was a hateful Samantha & changed the character is a lot of Rubbish & is not what one sees on the screen, rather one sees the opposite of all this hateful comments.

Furthermore Elizabeth Montgomery is on record in many interviews that she loved doing all 8 years of the show, was never ever bored for a minute or unhappy doing the show during the 8 seasons & that it was a great experience throughout the entire run of the show & that she would not change anything about her experience in doing the show.

Her words are the truth & after all she should know as they were her feelings.
In fact what one sees is a happy & joyful Samantha, more so even then the previous seasons & that is saying something.

Good examples of this are Bewitched,Bothered & Baldoni, Three Men & a Witch on a Horse, where Adams powers were tested & the final episode, all that i have described is clearly delineated in those episodes.

Larry Tate

[Larry Tate]

#72 "What every Young man should know" from season two is a remake of the Pilot.

Remakes began as early as that not only in the last three seasons as so many say.

I would say from season 3 on there were 2,2,3,3,4,4 (out of the first 22 episodes in season 8) remakes, it was only at the end of season 8 that they were largely the case with 3 of the last 4 episodes being remakes.

These facts just show how creative & diverse Bewitched was, that although they stuck to their main premise through all 8 years they still never became formulaic or just rehashed themselves on a regular basis, quite the opposite was the case with varied &
unique episodes being the norm the vast majority of the time rather then them being glorified remakes of each other as has been suggested.

I must say as well that episodes where a spell was placed on Darrin or when he was transformed, ones time travel back & into the future, witch illness ones etc. were never remakes but all unique & creative episodes in the form of sub premises of the main premise, otherwise you might as well say that each time Samantha twitched her nose or Darrin kissed her that this made it a remake episode.

This would make as much sense as it would be to say the ones i referred to above were remakes as well,
& not the word for word of the entire episodes(which none of them ever were)which so often are claimed to be the case by those people who claim most if not all of the episodes the last 3 seasons & especially they say the last season were remakes..............they weren't needless to say.

Even when they were remakes they changed them around so much that they were dissimilar and ony had the odd line in the odd scene that was word for word the same with 98% of the dialogue utterly different from the original episode, this was not like the Japanese or Russian versions of Bewitched where they took the original scripts for each Bewitched episode and then remade them literally word for word scene for scene, when Bewitched even had a rare remake then this was not the case, far from it.

I don't think the issue was the lack of new writers but rather that if you were going to stay true to the fundamental premise & the original characterizations then one was limited in what one could do over 8 years.

The alternative would be to go off on a completely different tangent that would not have been good or healthy for the show.

The fact that they stayed true to their original intent & premise is laudable in my view.

Actually a good quarter to a third of the shows the last few years were from new writers.

To me Little Pitchers Have Big Fears", "Soapbox Derby" are the same as It's Magic and Prodigy,the sort of Good Sam helps the Mortals sub premise and therefore would not constitute a remake, same as a spell on Darrin would not even though it had been done before & the basic aspects of it were the same in premise such a spell, complications for Mortal Darrin, he freaks, he & Sam work to fix it out, she uses magic as a last resort to do so, Witches ,laughing at all the mischief they created, mortals saying did i just see that................that sort of thing, but they were not remakes either.

Larry Tate

[DemandYourPickle]

Originally Posted by Larry Tate

Thank God we had 3 more seasons of Bewitched with Dick Sargent
I see what is actually to be seen & is on the screen itself.

Others see what they choose to through a prism that is distorted by the affection that they feel for DY, hence I believe the place from where all the hatred for DS comes from by the Yorkies who express it.

What I saw was DS as Darrin clearly in love & devoted to Samantha with great affection for her & totally devoted to being with her evermore.

Most Yorkie's have a negative view but most Bewitched fans in total, although may prefer DY, still very much like & enjoy DS as Darrin & his seasons a great deal.

He was very popular with the original generation of Bewitched fans that count the most the & although they are not as vocal as the Yorkie's they exist just as much to the same extent.

Although the ratings which are a relative thing to other shows did go down, the actual number of Households & people watching Bewitched were actually higher in the DS years then the early DY years for example.

As well the changeover prior to season 6 was not publicised & was largely unknown to the Bewitched Fan base till it happened. So when the fans tuned in to see the first episode of Season 6 they were expecting to still see DY, the ratings for this episode where they were tuning in to see DY were exactly the same as they were for the rest of the season when when they were tuning in to see DS, as they knew of the switch after seeing the first episode btoh were rated # 26.

As well after the switchover there was no reaction from Bewitched fans, nobody called or wrote & cared or had a problem with it.This according to Screen Gems executives of the time like Bill Asher, Harry Ackermen, Richard Baer & Richard Michaels.

Thank goodness that the show did not end after season 5, that would have been a huge mistake & instead it should have been as it was done with the show continuing onwards for 3 more Wonderful Seasons.

Yes, Liz & DS were very good friends in a personal sense while she & DY were merely fellow workers who otherwise were not acquainted & were nothing more, which is why they had zero contact after DY left the show.

The Dynamics of the show as to how the characters such as Darrin, Samantha & Endora etc. interrelated & the Premise of the show was unchanged by the changeover from DY to DS, everything was maintained as it had been with consistency.

The 8th season was excellent & very enjoyable, all this Liz was bored,unhappy, hated being there, was a hateful Samantha & changed the character is a lot of Rubbish & is not what one sees on the screen, rather one sees the opposite of all this hateful comments.

Furthermore Elizabeth Montgomery is on record in many interviews that she loved doing all 8 years of the show, was never ever bored for a minute or unhappy doing the show during the 8 seasons & that it was a great experience throughout the entire run of the show & that she would not change anything about her experience in doing the show.

Her words are the truth & after all she should know as they were her feelings.
In fact what one sees is a happy & joyful Samantha, more so even then the previous seasons & that is saying something.

Good examples of this are Bewitched,Bothered & Baldoni, Three Men & a Witch on a Horse, where Adams powers were tested & the final episode, all that i have described is clearly delineated in those episodes.

Larry Tate

That is enough! Stop talking about the "deluded Yorkies" stuff and just move on with your life.

(What I would give to be an administrator and close topics when necessary.)

[Larry Tate]

Originally Posted by DemandYourPickle

That is enough! Stop talking about the "deluded Yorkies" stuff and just move on with your life.

(What I would give to be an administrator and close topics when necessary.)

Can't take the truth can you????
I have a right to my views and i am right, besides, if the strait jacket fits wear it!!
And i will comment on whatever aspect of Bewitched i wish to anytime i choose to do so, so get used to it.!!

So you have the right to determine what is discussed, to what extent or how often or for how long????.............NOT!!

Talk about delusions of grandeur.

I find it amusing that when over an extended period of time hatred was spewed out like toxic bile at Dick Sargent, his seasons & at Elizabeth Montgomery in thread after thread by those of thine ilk but not a word of ENOUGH, or Stop it was stated by yourself or the other Yorkies, Hypocrite is the word that comes to mind, one that you are very familiar with, besides if you can't take it don't dish it out in the first place.!!

Besides the recent post was about remakes not Deluded Yorkies be that as it may.!!, nor did i continue the discussion about remakes or season 8, several others did.!!

Larry Tate

[Mr. Television]

Originally Posted by DemandYourPickle

That is enough! Stop talking about the "deluded Yorkies" stuff and just move on with your life.

(What I would give to be an administrator and close topics when necessary.)

Larry Tate is the one who's delusional. lol DS was not popular with the original Bewitched fans, hence the ratings falling every year after he took over. It's useless to reason with him though.

[DemandYourPickle]

Originally Posted by Stuck In The '70's

Larry Tate is the one who's delusional. lol DS was not popular with the original Bewitched fans, hence the ratings falling every year after he took over. It's useless to reason with him though.

I know. But enough tomfoolery! Back to the real topic.

What were they thinking? Were they serious? Did they really think they could pull it off? "Hmm, York's gone. I know, let's hire a guy who looks, acts, and sounds nothing like him! Nobody'll know the difference!"

They really were running out of originality/creativity by the end. York left, Liz got tired of it all, lines and scripts were recycled and reused...The show just seemed to die.

Imagine if they ever replaced Elizabeth! Or Endora! I wouldn't even watch.

[Larry Tate]

Originally Posted by Stuck In The '70's

Larry Tate is the one who's delusional. lol DS was not popular with the original Bewitched fans, hence the ratings falling every year after he took over. It's useless to reason with him though.

No twisted freaks and Hypocrite's like you are more psychotic then delusional but then again maybe you are versatile in your mental issues.

Besides your Troll is showing, maybe you will catch a great white and get eviscerated as your just deserts.

Logic & facts are beyond you

He was very popular with the original generation of Bewitched fans that count the most the & although they are not as vocal as the Yorkie's they exist just as much to the same extent.

Although the ratings which are a relative thing to other shows did go down, the actual number of Households & people watching Bewitched were actually higher in the DS years then the early DY years for example.

As well the changeover prior to season 6 was not publicized & was largely unknown to the Bewitched Fan base till it happened. So when the fans tuned in to see the first episode of Season 6 they were expecting to still see DY, the ratings for this episode where they were tuning in to see DY were exactly the same as they were for the rest of the season when when they were tuning in to see DS, as they knew of the switch after seeing the first episode both were rated # 26.

The truth and Facts have prevailed.

[Larry Tate]

[QUOTE

What were they thinking? Were they serious? Did they really think they could pull it off? "Hmm, York's gone. I know, let's hire a guy who looks, acts, and sounds nothing like him! Nobody'll know the difference!"

They really were running out of originality/creativity by the end. York left, Liz got tired of it all, lines and scripts were recycled and reused...The show just seemed to die.

Imagine if they ever replaced Elizabeth! Or Endora! I wouldn't even watch.[/QUOTE]

Yes and they did pull it off and yes nobody noticed the change or for that matter cared at all that it happened.

As well after the switchover there was no reaction from Bewitched fans, nobody called or wrote & cared or had a problem with it.This according to Screen Gems executives of the time like Bill Asher, Harry Ackermen, Richard Baer & Richard Michaels.

Thank goodness that the show did not end after season 5, that would have been a huge mistake & instead it should have been as it was done with the show continuing onwards for 3 more Wonderful Seasons.

I have proven that lines and scripts were not recycled or reused all the time as you state, me thinks you have got a hold of a sour pickle !!

The creativity of Bewitched was continuous and never ending right to the end of the show.

Liz herself on camera said she never ever got tired of the show or bored with it for one second, of course you know better then her........NOT!!

The show actually was reborn, energized and invigorated when they so successfully replaced dick york with Dick Sargent and moved onward better then it would have had they just continued the old Dick York abusively and hatefully screaming at Samantha all the time with Samantha cowering in fear.

Hummmmmmmmmm maybe you simply are just a Bad Pickle. !!!!!!

[Zoneboy]

Originally Posted by Larry Tate

Yes and they did pull it off and yes nobody noticed the change or for that matter cared at all that it happened

Are you honestly trying to convince us that nobody noticed there was a different actor playing Darrin?

[Larry Tate]

Originally Posted by Zoneboy

Are you honestly trying to convince us that nobody noticed there was a different actor playing Darrin?

I am merely saying what ABC, & several of the producers and writers said about this issue, that the vast majority didn't notice or more to the point didn't care about the change. they tuned in and saw Darrin and that is all they cared about, they didn't write or call in, the papers never were inundated by the fans upset with the change, it was like So What.

And they should know as they were there, weren't they.!

And yes it is a statistical fact that more people watched Dick Sargent then did watch Dick York in the early years of Bewitched, so the thought of some mass tune out as a result of the change is simply not statistically valid, the numbers do not lie, the ratings were merely a proportional representation in a relative sense between different shows.

Larry Tate

[DemandYourPickle]

Originally Posted by Larry Tate

Yes and they did pull it off and yes nobody noticed the change or for that matter cared at all that it happened.

As well after the switchover there was no reaction from Bewitched fans, nobody called or wrote & cared or had a problem with it.This according to Screen Gems executives of the time like Bill Asher, Harry Ackermen, Richard Baer & Richard Michaels.

Thank goodness that the show did not end after season 5, that would have been a huge mistake & instead it should have been as it was done with the show continuing onwards for 3 more Wonderful Seasons.

I have proven that lines and scripts were not recycled or reused all the time as you state, me thinks you have got a hold of a sour pickle !!

The creativity of Bewitched was continuous and never ending right to the end of the show.

Liz herself on camera said she never ever got tired of the show or bored with it for one second, of course you know better then her........NOT!!

The show actually was reborn, energized and invigorated when they so successfully replaced dick york with Dick Sargent and moved onward better then it would have had they just continued the old Dick York abusively and hatefully screaming at Samantha all the time with Samantha cowering in fear.

Hummmmmmmmmm maybe you simply are just a Bad Pickle. !!!!!!

..........So. I take it we're talking about pickles now, eh?