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CAJeannieFan57 · 01-23-2012, 12:30 AM

I am spending a little time catching up on some of the episodes that have aired this week.

First notable change (other than the cut-up openings): in the episode "A Love Story", the song that Howard turns on his record player was completely changed. They played some sort of jazz piece. It was supposed to be "As Time Goes By". That's what was in the DVD set, so I wonder why it got changed for Hallmark's airing.

Also....in setting my DVR, I noticed that starting Feb. 1st, there is another change coming. CHEERS is running at the 2 am spot. They seem to have moved TBNS to the 8 am slot again.

Stay tuned for more changes????????!!!!!!!????????

Donna

Jack1000 · 01-23-2012, 03:31 PM

Hallmark Channel is editing the BNS episodes to shreds. At least ME TV shows them more time-compressed and very little appearers to be cut.

Jack

CAJeannieFan57 · 01-24-2012, 10:02 AM

Now my DirecTV on-air guide is showing that TBNS is back in its regular, middle-of-the-night time slot. Either DirecTV screwed up, or Hallmark keeps changing its mind. 2:00 am to 4:00 am EST on DirecTV shows up at 11:00 pm to 1:00 am Pacific Time for me, but cable systems here still show it at 2:00 am.

Make up your mind, Hallmark....

Donna

Family Ties Forever! · 01-31-2012, 05:44 AM

That's a shame that Hallmark is editing the show so much.
I haven't seen seasons 5 or 6 and they aren't on dvd.

CAJeannieFan57 · 01-31-2012, 10:29 AM

No, they're not on DVD yet. Amazon has had both on Pre-Order for a few months. I keep getting notices from them saying that they're still looking into the delay. No one really knows for certain why they haven't been released. Conjecture is either that Fox hasn't made enough dough from the first 4 seasons yet, or there are residuals to consider by Season 5, or rights to music used.

Donna

TVFactFan · 02-02-2012, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack1000

Hallmark Channel is editing the BNS episodes to shreds. At least ME TV shows them more time-compressed and very little appearers to be cut.

Jack

I got to see the season 1 full opening credits on youtube since Hallmark chopped it up

Skywalker · 02-03-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack1000

At least ME TV shows them more time-compressed and very little appearers to be cut.

Jack

Are you sure about that? Maybe it's just me, but I watched an episode last night on Hallmark and I couldn't believe how much time compression was used. I haven't been watching the Bob Newhart Show regularly on Hallmark, but I can't recall seeing that much time compression on any show in a long time.

CAJeannieFan57 · 02-04-2012, 11:43 AM

The best way to tell about time compression and cuts is to actually TIME the show. If it runs less than 24 minutes, it's been cut and/or time compressed. The opening credits, up through "Over the River and Through the Woods", have been chopped up. They actually got a little longer in season 4, but still, the first bit with Bob's coffee cup is missing. (I am only "caught up" as far as the Moo-goo-gai-pan episode, from Hallmark. Of course I don't feel that I have to watch every single episode through Season 4. Once I get to Season 5, which has started, that will change.)

Donna

Jack1000 · 02-04-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

Are you sure about that? Maybe it's just me, but I watched an episode last night on Hallmark and I couldn't believe how much time compression was used. I haven't been watching the Bob Newhart Show regularly on Hallmark, but I can't recall seeing that much time compression on any show in a long time.

I think Hallmark is editing the episodes more than METV. Me TV seems to do more time compression. Hallmark is so cheap, they are using split screens for opening and closing credits.

Syndicated prints will edit or time compression run about 22 minutes nowadays. TBNS uncut, with no time compression, should run between 25 to 25:30 minutes. (approximate range.)

Jack

TVFactFan · 02-04-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack1000

I think Hallmark is editing the episodes more than METV. Me TV seems to do more time compression. Hallmark is so cheap, they are using split screens for opening and closing credits.

Syndicated prints will edit or time compression run about 22 minutes nowadays. TBNS uncut, with no time compression, should run between 25 to 25:30 minutes. (approximate range.)

Jack

Syndicated cuts are sometimes 18 mins

Family Ties Forever! · 02-04-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TVFactFan

Syndicated cuts are sometimes 18 mins

Wow, if Hallmark were to use that syndication cut, or if they are, there would be between 7 to 7 & 1/2 minutes missing. That's a lot.

TVFactFan · 02-04-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Family Ties Forever!

Wow, if Hallmark were to use that syndication cut, or if they are, there would be between 7 to 7 & 1/2 minutes missing. That's a lot.

Yup, most sitcoms that air on TV land are 18/19 mins. It's only on digital channels that it is 21/22 mins

Brian Damage · 02-04-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TVFactFan

Yup, most sitcoms that air on TV land are 18/19 mins. It's only on digital channels that it is 21/22 mins

Channels like Antenna don't show as many commercials.....yet

TVFactFan · 02-04-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

Channels like Antenna don't show as many commercials.....yet

Yeah Antenna TV has the same cuts as my local stations. My local station cuts are LONGER than cable. Never though that would happen

Family Ties Forever! · 02-05-2012, 05:56 AM

Wow, there are entire scenes cut out then I guess. That's a shame. At least we get to see the show even thought it's significantly shortered.

01-23-2012, 12:30 AM	#1
CAJeannieFan57 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 01, 2005 Location: Central Missouri Posts: 871	Cuts and changes I am spending a little time catching up on some of the episodes that have aired this week. First notable change (other than the cut-up openings): in the episode "A Love Story", the song that Howard turns on his record player was completely changed. They played some sort of jazz piece. It was supposed to be "As Time Goes By". That's what was in the DVD set, so I wonder why it got changed for Hallmark's airing. Also....in setting my DVR, I noticed that starting Feb. 1st, there is another change coming. CHEERS is running at the 2 am spot. They seem to have moved TBNS to the 8 am slot again. Stay tuned for more changes????????!!!!!!!???????? Donna
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01-31-2012, 05:44 AM	#4
Family Ties Forever! Member Forum Star Join Date: Apr 16, 2002 Location: Keaton residence Posts: 10,214	That's a shame that Hallmark is editing the show so much. I haven't seen seasons 5 or 6 and they aren't on dvd.
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01-23-2012, 03:31 PM	#2
Jack1000 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 05, 2001 Posts: 2,055	Hallmark Channel is editing the BNS episodes to shreds. At least ME TV shows them more time-compressed and very little appearers to be cut. Jack

01-24-2012, 10:02 AM	#3
CAJeannieFan57 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 01, 2005 Location: Central Missouri Posts: 871	Now my DirecTV on-air guide is showing that TBNS is back in its regular, middle-of-the-night time slot. Either DirecTV screwed up, or Hallmark keeps changing its mind. 2:00 am to 4:00 am EST on DirecTV shows up at 11:00 pm to 1:00 am Pacific Time for me, but cable systems here still show it at 2:00 am. Make up your mind, Hallmark.... Donna

01-31-2012, 10:29 AM	#5
CAJeannieFan57 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 01, 2005 Location: Central Missouri Posts: 871	No, they're not on DVD yet. Amazon has had both on Pre-Order for a few months. I keep getting notices from them saying that they're still looking into the delay. No one really knows for certain why they haven't been released. Conjecture is either that Fox hasn't made enough dough from the first 4 seasons yet, or there are residuals to consider by Season 5, or rights to music used. Donna

02-04-2012, 11:43 AM	#8
CAJeannieFan57 Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 01, 2005 Location: Central Missouri Posts: 871	The best way to tell about time compression and cuts is to actually TIME the show. If it runs less than 24 minutes, it's been cut and/or time compressed. The opening credits, up through "Over the River and Through the Woods", have been chopped up. They actually got a little longer in season 4, but still, the first bit with Bob's coffee cup is missing. (I am only "caught up" as far as the Moo-goo-gai-pan episode, from Hallmark. Of course I don't feel that I have to watch every single episode through Season 4. Once I get to Season 5, which has started, that will change.) Donna

02-05-2012, 05:56 AM	#15
Family Ties Forever! Member Forum Star Join Date: Apr 16, 2002 Location: Keaton residence Posts: 10,214	Wow, there are entire scenes cut out then I guess. That's a shame. At least we get to see the show even thought it's significantly shortered.