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Timoth26 · 10-12-2011, 09:18 AM

I was just wondering? Do you ever feel sorry for Lucy? I know she could be annoying sometimes but I can't help to feel for her sometimes.

For instence when Ricky would tell her she has no talent when he wouldn't let her in any of his acts. I think that would be hurtful in real life if you were told you had no talent. Also in the episode The Inferiorty Complex" they were kind of mean to her to tell her she couldn't tell jokes or play bridge. So it's no wonder she had a complex.

Also, they acted at as if they couldn't stand to here her sing exspecually in the "the Benefit" when they were at the piano singing they just gave up on the idea when Lucy wanted to join.

I remember in a later episode Ricky told Little Ricky it's not right to treat people like that.

Timoth26 · 10-12-2011, 06:03 PM

Why is no one responding to this thread? I think it's stupid to read a thread and not respond to it.

scotsguy · 10-12-2011, 07:48 PM

There are times when icky ios quite cruel to Lucy,I know times have changed but Ricky Ricardo seemed on a bit of an ego trip at times.

Tap Dancer · 10-14-2011, 08:47 AM

Lucy had a pretty good life. Ricky earned a living with his act. He didn't want Lucy getting in the way and that's understandable. Plus, the nice thing about going to work is that you get a break from the people you live with. Even though you love your family, you don't want to spend every minute of the day with them. Lucy wasn't always nice to Ricky, either, so I don't feel sorry for her when he tells her she had no talent.

tdr · 10-31-2011, 07:27 PM

Not very much. It's true that others, certainly those of the central cast, were not always that nice to Lucy, but was Lucy herself any better in that way? On the contrary, she was the principle scheme-hatcher with plots to get what she wants no matter who such a plan degraded. Maybe we can assume she had been that way all her life from the time her personality was rather clearly defined-- not talented in music, singing, dancing, and definitely having flaws in any desire to think logically. But she did have a drive to get what she wants and a creative mentality to go about it. Yet she was always too sensitive and overreative to being told the truth about her talent; thus her earlier years may have been practice for her scheming. She admitted, for example, that she made the high school band by learning one piece for an audition with her saxophone and then faked playing, all because she had a crush on a football player and that put her close to him (what a situation for that football player!).

So the inferiority complex to which you refer was another example of how she overreacted to what people say or think about her. Ricky, Fred, and Ethel should have known right away it would be shallow and short-lasting, and she could be persuaded in another direction by changing the course of what was said to her and about her.

So if there is anything to feel sorry for about the character, it's that she feels too much; so much as to become an anti-ethicist in going after her desires, even to being a criminal, and the rarer times we see her being pushed the opposite. She gets and she gives; she hurts and she gets hurt.

PJudith · 01-08-2012, 10:00 PM

Yes she was her own worst enemy at times!

But I felt sorry for her in the Hollywood episode when she staged that disastrous dance with the Ricky Dummy and ended up with a movie contract. I thought it was mean when they all told her "We're going home to New York" and she could stay in California alone. Gee, it was Lucy's life long dream to get into show business.

Ricky wouldn't even consider booking his band somewhere in California. Instead he told her he was taking Little Ricky home.

If I was Lucy I would've said that the baby is STAYING here. With a little persuasion I think she could've convinced Ethel to stay (at least for a little while) and take care of the baby. Lucy did say she would be making a big salary and would pay all expenses.

And who knows, Lucy might've been a big flop and the show biz bug would've been forever out of her system. I think Ricky could've supported her and let her have her chance. Just my opinion, a felt bad for her that time.

Jude The Obscure · 04-25-2012, 10:27 PM

^Well Lucy did get that chance in "Lucy Wants a Career" (a Comedy Hour episode)--she was a success at last.....and she HATED it!!

She finally realized she was in deed truly happy being a homemaker and mother.

Benno123 · 04-26-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jude The Obscure

^Well Lucy did get that chance in "Lucy Wants a Career" (a Comedy Hour episode)--she was a success at last.....and she HATED it!!

She finally realized she was in deed truly happy being a homemaker and mother.

Yes, and this is why I consider "Lucy Wants A Career" as the final great episode if the ILL format, and the remaining four shows are just bland in my opinion. "Career" has Lucy finally reaching her goal, coming full circle after all the years of wanting to be a success and being in the show. In the end she finds out that a show business career is not for her afterall. To me that realization from the Lucy Ricardo brings the character to a nice final conclusion, but this is just my opinion.

TuTi · 06-12-2012, 12:34 AM

I felt sorry for Lucy in "Oil Wells". She was trying to get their money back in an investment that they all thought they were being swindled over. When they found out they weren't being swindled, they blamed Lucy.

bogdanloveslucy · 06-12-2012, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Timoth26

Why is no one responding to this thread? I think it's stupid to read a thread and not respond to it.

Maybe because most of us realize it's only a tv show and Lucy is portraying a character. LOL! How can you feel sorry for a woman who can get a twelve foot bread come out of an oven that is about twenty inches wide.

The Flying Dutchmans · 01-19-2013, 03:51 PM

I do sometimes. My best Girlfriend (Just Friends) in California that I had known since Elementary School, and was very close to. got married at 35 and moved to Florida. I shed a small tear outside but felt worse inside. She just balled her eyes out. We still keep in touch, but it's only once every few months I hear from her, so when I see the episode where the Ricardo's moved to Connecticut, and how Lucy and Ethel start crying because of the move, it really hits home.

MurphyCarmichael · 02-26-2013, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PJudith

Yes she was her own worst enemy at times!

But I felt sorry for her in the Hollywood episode when she staged that disastrous dance with the Ricky Dummy and ended up with a movie contract. I thought it was mean when they all told her "We're going home to New York" and she could stay in California alone. Gee, it was Lucy's life long dream to get into show business.

Ricky wouldn't even consider booking his band somewhere in California. Instead he told her he was taking Little Ricky home.

If I was Lucy I would've said that the baby is STAYING here. With a little persuasion I think she could've convinced Ethel to stay (at least for a little while) and take care of the baby. Lucy did say she would be making a big salary and would pay all expenses.

And who knows, Lucy might've been a big flop and the show biz bug would've been forever out of her system. I think Ricky could've supported her and let her have her chance. Just my opinion, a felt bad for her that time.

I think it was kind of mean of them to say they were going home when she had a movie contract. They all knew it was her dream to be in show business and it was kind of mean for them to not even let her have a chance at it. He could have at least tried to book his band there for a while so she could do the movie. Maybe she wouldn't have done too well, but since it was her dream she should have at least had the chance to try. So what if she messed it up, at least she would have gotten to do it for a while. Ricky could have been more supportive, I agree. She was always supporting him with his career... she even cooked up a sceme to get him his job back at the club that time he lost it (she, Fred, and Ethel made reservations as different people then dressed up and went in and left when they said Ricky wasn't there). He could have at least let her do the movie.

They were always kind of mean to Lucy when it came to show business... telling her she couldn't sing and basically that she had no talent. In that one episode they said she couldn't even tell a joke or play bridge. They made it seem like she couldn't do anything. That would make just about anyone feel bad. Maybe she couldn't sing well, maybe she did mess up every one of those jokes, but they didn't have to be so blatantly obvious in stating it... and hurting her feelings like that.

I did feel sorry for her a lot of times because Ricky wouldn't let her in the show, even if it was a comedy bit or something where she didn't have to sing... and they were always putting her down for how terrible she was at singing and basically all things in show business. She wanted so much to be in show business... to at least be able to be in his show sometimes. If she wasn't going to completely ruin the show I don't see why she couldn't have been in it once in a while at least.

Hughsgirl · 02-27-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MurphyCarmichael

I think it was kind of mean of them to say they were going home when she had a movie contract. They all knew it was her dream to be in show business and it was kind of mean for them to not even let her have a chance at it. He could have at least tried to book his band there for a while so she could do the movie. Maybe she wouldn't have done too well, but since it was her dream she should have at least had the chance to try. So what if she messed it up, at least she would have gotten to do it for a while. Ricky could have been more supportive, I agree. She was always supporting him with his career... she even cooked up a sceme to get him his job back at the club that time he lost it (she, Fred, and Ethel made reservations as different people then dressed up and went in and left when they said Ricky wasn't there). He could have at least let her do the movie.

They were always kind of mean to Lucy when it came to show business... telling her she couldn't sing and basically that she had no talent. In that one episode they said she couldn't even tell a joke or play bridge. They made it seem like she couldn't do anything. That would make just about anyone feel bad. Maybe she couldn't sing well, maybe she did mess up every one of those jokes, but they didn't have to be so blatantly obvious in stating it... and hurting her feelings like that.

I did feel sorry for her a lot of times because Ricky wouldn't let her in the show, even if it was a comedy bit or something where she didn't have to sing... and they were always putting her down for how terrible she was at singing and basically all things in show business. She wanted so much to be in show business... to at least be able to be in his show sometimes. If she wasn't going to completely ruin the show I don't see why she couldn't have been in it once in a while at least.

I think you have forgotten what era this show was from because it was the man that ran the house and brought home the bacon - and Ricky, being Cuban, he was even stricter about running his family and woman. On top of that, Lucy only got the movie offer because her scheme fell apart and they thought it was slap-stick comedy, nothing more. Lucille Ball had the talent NOT Lucy Ricardo! And no, I never felt sorry for her because she put herself in those horrible predicaments - although funny as heck. And I like all the fans love her very much, but I never felt sorry for her -how could I? She had a HOT husband that took care of her.

Hughsgirl · 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Timoth26

Why is no one responding to this thread? I think it's stupid to read a thread and not respond to it.

I get frustrated when I don't get responses either, but hang in there.

DrBrinkley · 03-01-2013, 03:07 PM

Sure, yeah.

10-12-2011, 09:18 AM	#1
Timoth26 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 08, 2009 Posts: 185	Do you ever feel sorry for Lucy? I was just wondering? Do you ever feel sorry for Lucy? I know she could be annoying sometimes but I can't help to feel for her sometimes. For instence when Ricky would tell her she has no talent when he wouldn't let her in any of his acts. I think that would be hurtful in real life if you were told you had no talent. Also in the episode The Inferiorty Complex" they were kind of mean to her to tell her she couldn't tell jokes or play bridge. So it's no wonder she had a complex. Also, they acted at as if they couldn't stand to here her sing exspecually in the "the Benefit" when they were at the piano singing they just gave up on the idea when Lucy wanted to join. I remember in a later episode Ricky told Little Ricky it's not right to treat people like that.

01-19-2013, 03:51 PM	#11
The Flying Dutchmans Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 30, 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,017	I do sometimes. My best Girlfriend (Just Friends) in California that I had known since Elementary School, and was very close to. got married at 35 and moved to Florida. I shed a small tear outside but felt worse inside. She just balled her eyes out. We still keep in touch, but it's only once every few months I hear from her, so when I see the episode where the Ricardo's moved to Connecticut, and how Lucy and Ethel start crying because of the move, it really hits home.
	__________________ A strange red light as of a phantom ship all aglow, in the midst of which light the mast, spars and sails of a brig 200 yards distant stood out in strong relief." The Flying Dutchman

10-12-2011, 06:03 PM	#2
Timoth26 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 08, 2009 Posts: 185	Why is no one responding to this thread? I think it's stupid to read a thread and not respond to it.

10-12-2011, 07:48 PM	#3
scotsguy Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 25, 2002 Location: Edinburgh,Scotland Posts: 696	There are times when icky ios quite cruel to Lucy,I know times have changed but Ricky Ricardo seemed on a bit of an ego trip at times.

10-14-2011, 08:47 AM	#4
Tap Dancer Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 20, 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 754	Lucy had a pretty good life. Ricky earned a living with his act. He didn't want Lucy getting in the way and that's understandable. Plus, the nice thing about going to work is that you get a break from the people you live with. Even though you love your family, you don't want to spend every minute of the day with them. Lucy wasn't always nice to Ricky, either, so I don't feel sorry for her when he tells her she had no talent.

10-31-2011, 07:27 PM	#5
tdr Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Posts: 1,454	Not very much. It's true that others, certainly those of the central cast, were not always that nice to Lucy, but was Lucy herself any better in that way? On the contrary, she was the principle scheme-hatcher with plots to get what she wants no matter who such a plan degraded. Maybe we can assume she had been that way all her life from the time her personality was rather clearly defined-- not talented in music, singing, dancing, and definitely having flaws in any desire to think logically. But she did have a drive to get what she wants and a creative mentality to go about it. Yet she was always too sensitive and overreative to being told the truth about her talent; thus her earlier years may have been practice for her scheming. She admitted, for example, that she made the high school band by learning one piece for an audition with her saxophone and then faked playing, all because she had a crush on a football player and that put her close to him (what a situation for that football player!). So the inferiority complex to which you refer was another example of how she overreacted to what people say or think about her. Ricky, Fred, and Ethel should have known right away it would be shallow and short-lasting, and she could be persuaded in another direction by changing the course of what was said to her and about her. So if there is anything to feel sorry for about the character, it's that she feels too much; so much as to become an anti-ethicist in going after her desires, even to being a criminal, and the rarer times we see her being pushed the opposite. She gets and she gives; she hurts and she gets hurt.

01-08-2012, 10:00 PM	#6
PJudith Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 13, 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 29	Yes she was her own worst enemy at times! But I felt sorry for her in the Hollywood episode when she staged that disastrous dance with the Ricky Dummy and ended up with a movie contract. I thought it was mean when they all told her "We're going home to New York" and she could stay in California alone. Gee, it was Lucy's life long dream to get into show business. Ricky wouldn't even consider booking his band somewhere in California. Instead he told her he was taking Little Ricky home. If I was Lucy I would've said that the baby is STAYING here. With a little persuasion I think she could've convinced Ethel to stay (at least for a little while) and take care of the baby. Lucy did say she would be making a big salary and would pay all expenses. And who knows, Lucy might've been a big flop and the show biz bug would've been forever out of her system. I think Ricky could've supported her and let her have her chance. Just my opinion, a felt bad for her that time.

04-25-2012, 10:27 PM	#7
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,520	^Well Lucy did get that chance in "Lucy Wants a Career" (a Comedy Hour episode)--she was a success at last.....and she HATED it!! She finally realized she was in deed truly happy being a homemaker and mother.

06-12-2012, 12:34 AM	#9
TuTi Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 11, 2012 Posts: 15	I felt sorry for Lucy in "Oil Wells". She was trying to get their money back in an investment that they all thought they were being swindled over. When they found out they weren't being swindled, they blamed Lucy.

03-01-2013, 03:07 PM	#15
DrBrinkley Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 01, 2013 Location: Southern California Posts: 7	Sure, yeah.