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dugferd · 01-09-2002, 10:00 PM

Martin said "Looks like it's just you and I" and Frasier corrected it to "just you and me". But the first is the correct grammar. Unless there was some joke I missed (wasn't paying strict attention) then Frasier (or the writers) made a grammar error.

moofomoo · 01-09-2002, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by dugferd
Martin said "Looks like it's just you and I" and Frasier corrected it to "just you and me". But the first is the correct grammar. Unless there was some joke I missed (wasn't paying strict attention) then Frasier (or the writers) made a grammar error.

In English, my teacher said "if you don't know whether it's I or me when grouped with another object/person, take it out until you're just left with I or me."

"Looks like it's just I" makes no sense, don't you agree?

Therefore, Kelsey Grammer is right with his grammar, and it's just you and me.

**moo, who got straight A's in English...which sucks and comes back to haunt me!!!!**

gothic of darkness · 01-09-2002, 11:44 PM

I agree, moo. English is also my area of expertise.

dugferd · 01-11-2002, 10:19 PM

In this case with the verb 'to be', the nomnative case is used. The pronoun 'I' is the predicate nominative.

Have you heard anyone say "It is I" or perhaps on the phone say "This is he" or "this is she"? These are correct. It is awkward only because it is a common error to use the objective pronouns after the verb 'to be'. ("It's me."it's her" "it's them") although sounding correect because of it's popular usage is actually incorrect)

Pluralizing the predicate doesn't change the case of the pronouns. "It's you and I" is correct. So is "It's we" or "It's they" (sounds funny but it's right)

Frasier should have known better.

Some teachers often use that "remove the other noun or pronoun" test and neglect to teach actual rules of grammar. "looks like it's just I" is correct grammar (as far as the pronouns, anyway), even though it sounds odd.

Actually, the proper sentence would have been:
"It looks as if it's just you and I"

01-09-2002, 10:00 PM	#1
dugferd Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2001 Location: Richmond VA USA Posts: 112	Grammar (not Grammer) error Martin said "Looks like it's just you and I" and Frasier corrected it to "just you and me". But the first is the correct grammar. Unless there was some joke I missed (wasn't paying strict attention) then Frasier (or the writers) made a grammar error.
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01-09-2002, 11:44 PM	#3
gothic of darkness SaRcAsTiC pEsSiMeSt Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 26, 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 107	I agree, moo. English is also my area of expertise.

01-11-2002, 10:19 PM	#4
dugferd Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2001 Location: Richmond VA USA Posts: 112	In this case with the verb 'to be', the nomnative case is used. The pronoun 'I' is the predicate nominative. Have you heard anyone say "It is I" or perhaps on the phone say "This is he" or "this is she"? These are correct. It is awkward only because it is a common error to use the objective pronouns after the verb 'to be'. ("It's me."it's her" "it's them") although sounding correect because of it's popular usage is actually incorrect) Pluralizing the predicate doesn't change the case of the pronouns. "It's you and I" is correct. So is "It's we" or "It's they" (sounds funny but it's right) Frasier should have known better. Some teachers often use that "remove the other noun or pronoun" test and neglect to teach actual rules of grammar. "looks like it's just I" is correct grammar (as far as the pronouns, anyway), even though it sounds odd. Actually, the proper sentence would have been: "It looks as if it's just you and I"

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