Anyone else baffled by how Jane reacted in The New Hampshire Serial killer segment? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

JackKerouac1989 · 06-29-2011, 06:38 PM

This is actually what MegtheEgg86 posted in the re-enactment thread:

"I was very surprised upon reading the Philip Ginsburg book about the case and found there was so much more to it. I apologize for not fully clarifying what happened; here it is, in a nutshell:

Jane pulls into the convenience store parking lot for a Pepsi. After the machine won't yield a can nor her money back, she returns to her car to hunt for change to use at the Coke machine--which she finds and is able to use successfully. She returns and sits in her car momentarily to open and take a sip on her Coke. Her window is partially rolled down. At this time a Jeep Wagoneer pulls into the space to the right of Jane's car. A man gets out and walks around the back of Jane's car and stops at her window.

"That phone working tonight?" he asks.

Before Jane can answer, he opens her car door and attempts to grab her wrist. Jane kicks and screams, and somehow ends up smashing her window with her foot. The man then pulls a knife and forces Jane from the car.

"What do you want?" Jane asks.

"You beat up my girlfriend" he says.

Jane says she did not, and the man appears confused.

"This is a Massachusetts car, isn't it?"

"No, it's a New Hampshire car," Jane says.

The man goes to verify Jane's claim. After he sees her license plate he begins to walk back to his car.

"Hey, what about my window?" she calls out.

The man turns and begins to charge her. The rest of the event unfolds basically as in the UM reenactment."

Okay now I'm not saying Jane deserved what happened to her, but she was several months pregnant (and unfortunately the child was born with brain damage due to the attack contrary to what the UM segment said) and had just been assaulted and forced from her car at knife point!
As the guy was walking away she screams at him "Hey, What about my window?" and he gets angry and then runs toward her and stabs her.

Now I'm sure there are other people who will agree with me, but if someone had attacked me and forced me from my car at knife point and the guy started walking away I would not scream back at him. I would have started my car and got the heck out of there!

nohwheregirl · 06-29-2011, 07:45 PM

First of all, unless you have been attacked by a serial killer, I don't think you can anticipate exactly what you would do in that situation.

Second, that actually seems like something I might do. I have a tendency to get very angry when verbally/physically attacked rather than cowering or shutting down, and I grew up with 3 brothers and I'm not afraid of defending myself. I've been in situations when I confronted men that I did not know. I never got physical or violent, but I was upset with a slightly raised voice. After the situation had passed, I thought to myself, "Hey, that guy could have been crazy. I probably should have walked and not said anything." So yeah, maybe Jane wishes she hadn't yelled at the guy about her window now, but that brings me to my 3rd point...

There's no way of knowing if he would have actually left her alone if she had kept her mouth shut. Clearly, his actions were not what we would consider "rational." He was clearly intending on hurting her and looking for any possible excuse.

I'm sure Jane has gone through the coulda/woulda/shoulda's about a million times in her head. Why do people feel the need to pile on? Jane has posted on this forum before. Chances are she might be reading this one day. I know you said that you don't think the incident was her fault, but you are clearly judging her actions. We all make mistakes. This one should not have gotten her nearly killed no matter what she said. Perhaps we should be focusing more on the perp here?

asmitty · 06-29-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nohwheregirl

First of all, unless you have been attacked by a serial killer, I don't think you can anticipate exactly what you would do in that situation.

Second, that actually seems like something I might do. I have a tendency to get very angry when verbally/physically attacked rather than cowering or shutting down, and I grew up with 3 brothers and I'm not afraid of defending myself. I've been in situations when I confronted men that I did not know. I never got physical or violent, but I was upset with a slightly raised voice. After the situation had passed, I thought to myself, "Hey, that guy could have been crazy. I probably should have walked and not said anything." So yeah, maybe Jane wishes she hadn't yelled at the guy about her window now, but that brings me to my 3rd point...

There's no way of knowing if he would have actually left her alone if she had kept her mouth shut. Clearly, his actions were not what we would consider "rational." He was clearly intending on hurting her and looking for any possible excuse.

I'm sure Jane has gone through the coulda/woulda/shoulda's about a million times in her head. Why do people feel the need to pile on? Jane has posted on this forum before. Chances are she might be reading this one day. I know you said that you don't think the incident was her fault, but you are clearly judging her actions. We all make mistakes. This one should not have gotten her nearly killed no matter what she said. Perhaps we should be focusing more on the perp here?

I have to agree with nohwheregirl here. If she was, in fact, a victim of the NH serial killer then I highly doubt that he was just going to walk away and let her go.

JackKerouac1989 · 06-29-2011, 08:53 PM

Unfortunately I didn't think clearly enough about what a traumatic experience that must have been for her and how most people react differently to different types of situations.
I also didn't realize Jane posted here and I feel it would be unfair of her to have to read what I posted and it was very insensitive of me.
I tried to delete this topic, but that option isn't here.
Anyone know how to contact an administrator to get this topic deleted out of respect for Jane?

Thanks

Mysteryphile · 06-30-2011, 03:55 AM

Even though you now feel like you shouldn't have posted what you did, I was really interested to read more about what actually happened.

TheCars1986 · 06-30-2011, 01:38 PM

I think Jane most likely thought the man had a simple (well not exactly simple when someone's holding you at knifepoint) case of a misunderstanding. She probably thought the man actually thought she was someone who beat up his girlfriend, and when he walked back to his car she was pissed off because he caused her to break her window.

Jason K · 07-01-2011, 03:53 PM

Where has Jane posted on here? Curious.

nohwheregirl · 07-01-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason K

Where has Jane posted on here? Curious.

Here's it is.

06-29-2011, 06:38 PM	#1
JackKerouac1989 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 18, 2010 Location: nj Posts: 78	Anyone else baffled by how Jane reacted in The New Hampshire Serial killer segment? This is actually what MegtheEgg86 posted in the re-enactment thread: "I was very surprised upon reading the Philip Ginsburg book about the case and found there was so much more to it. I apologize for not fully clarifying what happened; here it is, in a nutshell: Jane pulls into the convenience store parking lot for a Pepsi. After the machine won't yield a can nor her money back, she returns to her car to hunt for change to use at the Coke machine--which she finds and is able to use successfully. She returns and sits in her car momentarily to open and take a sip on her Coke. Her window is partially rolled down. At this time a Jeep Wagoneer pulls into the space to the right of Jane's car. A man gets out and walks around the back of Jane's car and stops at her window. "That phone working tonight?" he asks. Before Jane can answer, he opens her car door and attempts to grab her wrist. Jane kicks and screams, and somehow ends up smashing her window with her foot. The man then pulls a knife and forces Jane from the car. "What do you want?" Jane asks. "You beat up my girlfriend" he says. Jane says she did not, and the man appears confused. "This is a Massachusetts car, isn't it?" "No, it's a New Hampshire car," Jane says. The man goes to verify Jane's claim. After he sees her license plate he begins to walk back to his car. "Hey, what about my window?" she calls out. The man turns and begins to charge her. The rest of the event unfolds basically as in the UM reenactment." Okay now I'm not saying Jane deserved what happened to her, but she was several months pregnant (and unfortunately the child was born with brain damage due to the attack contrary to what the UM segment said) and had just been assaulted and forced from her car at knife point! As the guy was walking away she screams at him "Hey, What about my window?" and he gets angry and then runs toward her and stabs her. Now I'm sure there are other people who will agree with me, but if someone had attacked me and forced me from my car at knife point and the guy started walking away I would not scream back at him. I would have started my car and got the heck out of there!

06-29-2011, 07:45 PM	#2
nohwheregirl THE Mystery Machine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Posts: 1,057	First of all, unless you have been attacked by a serial killer, I don't think you can anticipate exactly what you would do in that situation. Second, that actually seems like something I might do. I have a tendency to get very angry when verbally/physically attacked rather than cowering or shutting down, and I grew up with 3 brothers and I'm not afraid of defending myself. I've been in situations when I confronted men that I did not know. I never got physical or violent, but I was upset with a slightly raised voice. After the situation had passed, I thought to myself, "Hey, that guy could have been crazy. I probably should have walked and not said anything." So yeah, maybe Jane wishes she hadn't yelled at the guy about her window now, but that brings me to my 3rd point... There's no way of knowing if he would have actually left her alone if she had kept her mouth shut. Clearly, his actions were not what we would consider "rational." He was clearly intending on hurting her and looking for any possible excuse. I'm sure Jane has gone through the coulda/woulda/shoulda's about a million times in her head. Why do people feel the need to pile on? Jane has posted on this forum before. Chances are she might be reading this one day. I know you said that you don't think the incident was her fault, but you are clearly judging her actions. We all make mistakes. This one should not have gotten her nearly killed no matter what she said. Perhaps we should be focusing more on the perp here?

06-29-2011, 08:53 PM	#4
JackKerouac1989 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 18, 2010 Location: nj Posts: 78	Unfortunately I didn't think clearly enough about what a traumatic experience that must have been for her and how most people react differently to different types of situations. I also didn't realize Jane posted here and I feel it would be unfair of her to have to read what I posted and it was very insensitive of me. I tried to delete this topic, but that option isn't here. Anyone know how to contact an administrator to get this topic deleted out of respect for Jane? Thanks

06-30-2011, 03:55 AM	#5
Mysteryphile I wonder what happened to her. Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 02, 2009 Location: England via Iowa Posts: 320	Even though you now feel like you shouldn't have posted what you did, I was really interested to read more about what actually happened.

06-30-2011, 01:38 PM	#6
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	I think Jane most likely thought the man had a simple (well not exactly simple when someone's holding you at knifepoint) case of a misunderstanding. She probably thought the man actually thought she was someone who beat up his girlfriend, and when he walked back to his car she was pissed off because he caused her to break her window.

07-01-2011, 03:53 PM	#7
Jason K Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 05, 2010 Posts: 59	Where has Jane posted on here? Curious.