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CowboyStudTied · 04-11-2011, 05:51 PM

suicide or murder?

CowboyStudTied · 04-11-2011, 05:59 PM

Not Suicide ...

1. Wallet was missing (150$)
2. cut was found by his neck

QUESTION IS : WHY won't the Police re-open this case?

besides the bullet (the original bullet that they didnt find but the parents found was inches ion the ground)

The mother was threatened at the funeral saying don't look into this case any further

I HOPE THE BASTARDS GET WHAT THEY DISERVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT WAS NOT SUICIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT couldn't be

CowboyStudTied · 04-11-2011, 06:22 PM

that was a bit harsh I just wish this case would be solved the right way

I just hope its in this lifetime

zack007attack · 04-11-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CowboyStudTied

suicide or murder?

First of all, my opinion is not based on the accounts of any threats directed at the Ladner family or their personal feelings. My opinion is based strictly on the evidence.

I believed Norman was murdered, based on the physical evidence found by the police. Sometimes they just get lazy and may say suicide or accident for certain cases just to wrap it up and not look at it further.

DarkDante · 04-11-2011, 11:22 PM

The segment just doesn't provide enough information for me to determine what really happened. For instance, there is no information provided about Norman's state of mind which may or may not indicate that he was contemplating suicide.

The only people interviewed are Norman's parents and the police both of whom would have their own motives for the results of this case turning out definitively to be one way or the other.

I will say that the fact that Norman's father found evidence of what could have been drug related paraphernalia on his property leads me to think that narcotics trafficking could have played a role in this case. In addition as someone else has already brought up, the fact that Norman's wallet was missing is also troubling.

CowboyStudTied · 04-12-2011, 10:06 AM

Thid is completely out of the blue.... BUT, WHAT IF.... the father was involved in the drugs that supposedly were getting dropped on his land (The control and parachute device found in the tree) what if the drug guys saw his son (accidently killed him or what if his father killed him, because he was too close?)

AGAIN THIS IS just 1 of the theories I have

justins5256 · 04-12-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CowboyStudTied

Thid is completely out of the blue.... BUT, WHAT IF.... the father was involved in the drugs that supposedly were getting dropped on his land (The control and parachute device found in the tree) what if the drug guys saw his son (accidently killed him or what if his father killed him, because he was too close?)

AGAIN THIS IS just 1 of the theories I have

What evidence is this based on?

If the father was involved, why did he appear on Unsolved Mysteries in an effort to get the case re-investigated?

bluejazz87 · 05-28-2011, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CowboyStudTied

Not Suicide ...

1. Wallet was missing (150$)
2. cut was found by his neck

QUESTION IS : WHY won't the Police re-open this case?

besides the bullet (the original bullet that they didnt find but the parents found was inches ion the ground)

The mother was threatened at the funeral saying don't look into this case any further

I HOPE THE BASTARDS GET WHAT THEY DISERVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT WAS NOT SUICIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT couldn't be

Yes. Everyone with a brain knows it wasn't suicide. The police are hiding something and being stupid. This is why I'm always skeptical about law enforcement in general (at least in this country). Norman probably ran into some drug smugglers. I just hope he went down fighting and shot one of those bastards with his rifle.

SageSlowdive · 05-29-2011, 03:17 AM

Some kind of drug seize or something. No way in this world was it suicide.

TheCars1986 · 05-29-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SageSlowdive

Some kind of drug seize or something. No way in this world was it suicide.

I agree. I think Norman stumbled upon something he wasn't supposed to see and was killed. Probably a drug drop or drug deal going down.

CowboyStudTied · 06-10-2011, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCars1986

I agree. I think Norman stumbled upon something he wasn't supposed to see and was killed. Probably a drug drop or drug deal going down.

Than why are thre no investigations on this case just like the boys on the tracks case they both seem like they have things about one another that match both mysterious deaths

TheCars1986 · 06-10-2011, 01:00 PM

I don't know if both cases were connnected or not, but I do believe all three boys stumbled upon high level drug deals going on in remote areas and were killed to be silenced.

rts29803 · 06-10-2011, 01:53 PM

Was the "device" found in the woods examined by LE to determine what type of frequencies, signals, etc. it sent/recieved to see if it was in fact used by drug runners? Also, did the mother question other ppl in the funeral home to see if anyone could id the mysterious stranger?

Kyte · 06-10-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rts29803

Was the "device" found in the woods examined by LE to determine what type of frequencies, signals, etc. it sent/recieved to see if it was in fact used by drug runners? Also, did the mother question other ppl in the funeral home to see if anyone could id the mysterious stranger?

Remember what happened to the bullet they found after they gave it to the police? They said it was inconclusive and gave them a different bullet back.

I highly doubt the Ladners would have ever gotten that device back had they given it to the authorities. Norman's dad said he met with an ex-DEA agent who confirmed it was a device to coordinate drug drops. That's more than enough info imo to know that Norman stumbled upon something he shouldn't have.

Kyte · 06-17-2011, 07:44 AM

The story aired again tonight.

Something that really upset me about this case besides all the injustice surrounding it is how the cop who UM interviewed said that "there was no way" that the bullet Norman's dad found could have been the one that killed him.

Its like, ****. They're not even trying to hide the fact that they're lazily covering it up. So what, the Ladners found a bullet right where Norman was found dead (and a bloody bullet at that), among his brain fragments and skull tissue, and you literally want me to believe that it wasn't the bullet that killed him?

04-11-2011, 05:51 PM	#1
CowboyStudTied Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 06, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 54	The Death of Norman Ladner? suicide or murder?

04-11-2011, 11:22 PM	#5
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	The segment just doesn't provide enough information for me to determine what really happened. For instance, there is no information provided about Norman's state of mind which may or may not indicate that he was contemplating suicide. The only people interviewed are Norman's parents and the police both of whom would have their own motives for the results of this case turning out definitively to be one way or the other. I will say that the fact that Norman's father found evidence of what could have been drug related paraphernalia on his property leads me to think that narcotics trafficking could have played a role in this case. In addition as someone else has already brought up, the fact that Norman's wallet was missing is also troubling.
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04-11-2011, 05:59 PM	#2
CowboyStudTied Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 06, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 54	Not Suicide ... 1. Wallet was missing (150$) 2. cut was found by his neck QUESTION IS : WHY won't the Police re-open this case? besides the bullet (the original bullet that they didnt find but the parents found was inches ion the ground) The mother was threatened at the funeral saying don't look into this case any further I HOPE THE BASTARDS GET WHAT THEY DISERVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WAS NOT SUICIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT couldn't be

04-11-2011, 06:22 PM	#3
CowboyStudTied Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 06, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 54	that was a bit harsh I just wish this case would be solved the right way I just hope its in this lifetime

04-12-2011, 10:06 AM	#6
CowboyStudTied Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 06, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 54	Thid is completely out of the blue.... BUT, WHAT IF.... the father was involved in the drugs that supposedly were getting dropped on his land (The control and parachute device found in the tree) what if the drug guys saw his son (accidently killed him or what if his father killed him, because he was too close?) AGAIN THIS IS just 1 of the theories I have

05-29-2011, 03:17 AM	#9
SageSlowdive the real hank queen Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 10, 2010 Posts: 659	Some kind of drug seize or something. No way in this world was it suicide.

06-10-2011, 01:00 PM	#12
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	I don't know if both cases were connnected or not, but I do believe all three boys stumbled upon high level drug deals going on in remote areas and were killed to be silenced.

06-10-2011, 01:53 PM	#13
rts29803 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 31, 2010 Location: South Carolina Posts: 41	Was the "device" found in the woods examined by LE to determine what type of frequencies, signals, etc. it sent/recieved to see if it was in fact used by drug runners? Also, did the mother question other ppl in the funeral home to see if anyone could id the mysterious stranger?

06-17-2011, 07:44 AM	#15
Kyte The Greatest Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 10, 2008 Location: California Posts: 122	The story aired again tonight. Something that really upset me about this case besides all the injustice surrounding it is how the cop who UM interviewed said that "there was no way" that the bullet Norman's dad found could have been the one that killed him. Its like, ****. They're not even trying to hide the fact that they're lazily covering it up. So what, the Ladners found a bullet right where Norman was found dead (and a bloody bullet at that), among his brain fragments and skull tissue, and you literally want me to believe that it wasn't the bullet that killed him?