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zack007attack · 02-14-2011, 02:51 AM

Here are mine:

David Vieira- Alice's parents insist she stay with this insane, jealous ***** despite all the horror he inflicted on her and the children. I know it's not a good thing in the eyes of the Portuguese-Catholic community to divorce but why should that matter to Alice? Really, why should you care what complete strangers think of you? And her parents; in my mind, they are partially responsible for her death in a way that makes them deserve NO part in her children's growing up.

Patty Stallings- The prosecution seemed to only be interested in blaming someone instead of the truth. Sometimes I think accusers just want to make an enemy or scapegoat for their own pleasure.

Christi Nichols- seriously, why don't the police investigate Mark further? It is almost 100% obvious he was lying in his interview.

Dale Kerstetter- The executive owner of the plant is such a selfish bastard. He automatically pinned Dale as responsible for the missing platinum out of sheer corporate greed. If I didn't know better, I'd say he was responsible for the theft so he could pin it on Dale and collect insurance money for the platinum.

Robert Hamrick- I think it is quite obvious the local gang is responsible for killing him. The police or community people should have opened up crates of shotguns and rifles and ran those bastards out of town.

What are your cases?

SageSlowdive · 02-14-2011, 08:14 AM

They all make me angry because of their senseless nature - however no one tops Eileen Mangold for me. To know they actually caught the fugitive who did it, yet he managed to be cleared in a trail EVEN THOUGH his DNA was found ON Ms. Mangold makes me sick.

TheCars1986 · 02-14-2011, 09:42 AM

Any of the cases involving a brutal murder where a suspect is still on the run really get under my skin. But what's worse, when there's someone so blatantly guilty (Chad Noe and his family come to mind), but there not even considered suspects, nor do they even need to hide and they move freely about society...that REALLY gets under my skin. I kind of get annoyed sometimes with the families who cannot accept a suicide of a loved one and pander conspiracy murder theories.

MegtheEgg86 · 02-14-2011, 11:29 AM

The Mabel Woods dog kennel fire. I get utterly sick just thinking about it.

soilentgreen · 02-14-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SageSlowDive

To know they actually caught the fugitive who did it, yet he managed to be cleared in a trail EVEN THOUGH his DNA was found ON Ms. Mangold makes me sick.

It's a matter of when, not if, he'll commit a similar crime.

Rachel Timmerman/Shannon Verhage -- besides Gabrion, there was the b*stard who lured Timmerman on the pretext of a date so that she and her daughter could be murdered. Gabrion, besides soliciting online for women to write him in prison, also sends letters to Timmerman's parents:

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi..._grief_lo.html

As well as the Mabel Woods case, there was the Nevada wild horse killings.

Edited to add Gus Hoffman. Just a senseless, sickening homicide.

browneyes106 · 02-15-2011, 04:21 PM

The cases in which people were harmed, abused or murdered by family members, boyfriends, girlfriends or spouses angered me the most.

themaninblack · 02-17-2011, 04:56 AM

Well, as for me, as I have been rather vocal about it on here, the one case that really angers me is Jesslyn Rich/Terri Lucas. Also, Rhonda Hinson and others like it. People are so senselessly cruel!

SteelersFan83 · 02-17-2011, 01:10 PM

I definitely agree with the post about the Mabel Woods case, that was hard to watch.

My personal choices are cases like David Harry Fisher and James Donald King, where people who have committed violent, heinous crimes are allowed to walk the streets following extremely tolerant punishments.

In Fisher's case, after raping and murdering an 11 year girl, after a certain amount of time, he was allowed to serve his time on what was basically a low security work farm, where he subsequently escaped.

In King's case, after escaping prison after his first murder conviction,he lived on the run for around six years as a law-abiding citizen, which swayed the authorities to decide in his favor. We all know what happened next.

I personally feel that our legal system needs to wake up,and learn everything possible about criminal court cases, so people like these two wont be allowed back into society after receiving what could be considered as a "slap on the wrist" for their sentences

RobinW · 02-17-2011, 04:20 PM

For whatever reason, I get angrier at cases involving corrupt or lazy law enforcement and authority figures than cases involving straight criminals. A criminal is a criminal, but these authority figures are in a position of power where you're supposed to rely on them and trust them, so it's infuriating when they don't come through.

Many of the suspicious so-called suicides involving young teenagers, such as Keith Warren, Norman Ladner and Tommy Burkett, leave me especially angry. On the small chance that there is no cover-up or that these kids really did commit suicide, the LE in these cases displayed an astonishing lack of tact and sympathy when dealing with parents who just lost a child

. I always wonder if these corrupt or lazy authority figures have children themselves. If they lost a child under suspicious circumstances, could they actually follow the same advice they offer these parents and "just let it go"?

88keys · 02-18-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RobinW

For whatever reason, I get angrier at cases involving corrupt or lazy law enforcement and authority figures than cases involving straight criminals. A criminal is a criminal, but these authority figures are in a position of power where you're supposed to rely on them and trust them, so it's infuriating when they don't come through.

I agree with all of that. Kait Arquette is another one that comes to mind. Granted, I know a lot more about that case now than I did when it aired on UM.

For me, the random, senseless murders are the worst. (Not that there is sense in murdering someone close to you). Like the guy who was out riding his motorcycle and ended up being chased down and killed because he supposedly cut them off or something. Or Richard Aderson- someone sideswiped him on the freeway, they get into an argument, then the guy pulls out a gun and shoots him. Mr. Aderson left behind a wife and three children. That's just heartbreaking to me. From what I could tell, the accident wasn't even his fault. Stories like that are the worst to me. To take a life over something so stupid. Mr. Aderson's killer has never been found, from what I understand.

TheCars1986 · 02-18-2011, 05:26 PM

Other cases I get angry with are the FINAL APPEAL segments in which the guy imprisoned (Bird Road Rapist comes to mind) is so blatantly innocent, yet they still continue to sit and rot in jail for crimes they did not commit.

MissFit29 · 02-25-2011, 12:55 PM

I just watched the Elizabeth Campbell segment again, and at the end, they show a scene where her parents ask 2 women on the street if they've seen Elizabeth and show them pictures. I never noticed this part of the exchange:

Mr. Campbell: "Have you seen this girl?"
Woman: "Why?"
Mr. Campbell: "She's our daughter, and she's missing."
Woman: "Is there like a reward or something?" Then "Sorry, can't help you."

So, two heartbroken people come up to you on the street, trying desperately to find their daughter, and all you can offer up is that you wouldn't be willing to do anything without a monetary benefit?

Cori aka ChrisSCrush · 02-26-2011, 06:14 AM

Most of them. Particularly the ones where families were split up simply because a parent who was trying their best was unable to adequately care for children. These agencies should have helped them, not essentially kidnapped the children. In one of these cases the mother actually killed herself after her children were taken from her.

crystaldawn · 02-26-2011, 08:22 AM

Some good choices on here. Another one that really aggravates me is that loser Elmer Locker Jr. He asks his elderly parents to bail him out on a drug charge and then skips town leaving them to almost lose their house! Not to mention his brother that was nice enough to mortgage his house to bail out Elmer's friends who he didn't even know and he did end up losing his home!

LooksLikeCRicci · 03-15-2011, 11:19 PM

A lot of the cases on UM give me emotional reactions, but I guess the following would be my Top 3:

1. Charlotte Polis-- I think I've been most vocal about her case and how suspicious I found her husband in the whole thing. I still maintain that Paul Polis was lying in his interview to UM.

2. The "Tom Johnson" case-- This one was absolutely senseless. I cannot imagine killing someone over a computer, not to mention the pain that Jeremy must have went through. Then to find that he himself passed away later without ever getting answers to what happened to his fiancee is just the freakin' icing on the cake.

3. Angela Hammond-- I must have watched this segment a hundred times. Every time I watch it, I feel so horrible for her boyfriend who tried to hard to save her.

02-14-2011, 02:51 AM	#1
zack007attack Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 30, 2009 Posts: 402	Which UM cases made you mad or angry? Here are mine: David Vieira- Alice's parents insist she stay with this insane, jealous ***** despite all the horror he inflicted on her and the children. I know it's not a good thing in the eyes of the Portuguese-Catholic community to divorce but why should that matter to Alice? Really, why should you care what complete strangers think of you? And her parents; in my mind, they are partially responsible for her death in a way that makes them deserve NO part in her children's growing up. Patty Stallings- The prosecution seemed to only be interested in blaming someone instead of the truth. Sometimes I think accusers just want to make an enemy or scapegoat for their own pleasure. Christi Nichols- seriously, why don't the police investigate Mark further? It is almost 100% obvious he was lying in his interview. Dale Kerstetter- The executive owner of the plant is such a selfish bastard. He automatically pinned Dale as responsible for the missing platinum out of sheer corporate greed. If I didn't know better, I'd say he was responsible for the theft so he could pin it on Dale and collect insurance money for the platinum. Robert Hamrick- I think it is quite obvious the local gang is responsible for killing him. The police or community people should have opened up crates of shotguns and rifles and ran those bastards out of town. What are your cases?

02-14-2011, 11:29 AM	#4
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	The Mabel Woods dog kennel fire. I get utterly sick just thinking about it.
	__________________ "Why is she lying?, it makes me wonder. What is she hiding?, it makes me wonder." Go Vols!

02-14-2011, 08:14 AM	#2
SageSlowdive the real hank queen Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 10, 2010 Posts: 659	They all make me angry because of their senseless nature - however no one tops Eileen Mangold for me. To know they actually caught the fugitive who did it, yet he managed to be cleared in a trail EVEN THOUGH his DNA was found ON Ms. Mangold makes me sick.

02-14-2011, 09:42 AM	#3
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	Any of the cases involving a brutal murder where a suspect is still on the run really get under my skin. But what's worse, when there's someone so blatantly guilty (Chad Noe and his family come to mind), but there not even considered suspects, nor do they even need to hide and they move freely about society...that REALLY gets under my skin. I kind of get annoyed sometimes with the families who cannot accept a suicide of a loved one and pander conspiracy murder theories.

02-15-2011, 04:21 PM	#6
browneyes106 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 01, 2008 Posts: 6,097	The cases in which people were harmed, abused or murdered by family members, boyfriends, girlfriends or spouses angered me the most.

02-17-2011, 04:56 AM	#7
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	Well, as for me, as I have been rather vocal about it on here, the one case that really angers me is Jesslyn Rich/Terri Lucas. Also, Rhonda Hinson and others like it. People are so senselessly cruel!

02-17-2011, 01:10 PM	#8
SteelersFan83 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 01, 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 18	I definitely agree with the post about the Mabel Woods case, that was hard to watch. My personal choices are cases like David Harry Fisher and James Donald King, where people who have committed violent, heinous crimes are allowed to walk the streets following extremely tolerant punishments. In Fisher's case, after raping and murdering an 11 year girl, after a certain amount of time, he was allowed to serve his time on what was basically a low security work farm, where he subsequently escaped. In King's case, after escaping prison after his first murder conviction,he lived on the run for around six years as a law-abiding citizen, which swayed the authorities to decide in his favor. We all know what happened next. I personally feel that our legal system needs to wake up,and learn everything possible about criminal court cases, so people like these two wont be allowed back into society after receiving what could be considered as a "slap on the wrist" for their sentences

02-17-2011, 04:20 PM	#9
RobinW Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2010 Posts: 1,874	For whatever reason, I get angrier at cases involving corrupt or lazy law enforcement and authority figures than cases involving straight criminals. A criminal is a criminal, but these authority figures are in a position of power where you're supposed to rely on them and trust them, so it's infuriating when they don't come through. Many of the suspicious so-called suicides involving young teenagers, such as Keith Warren, Norman Ladner and Tommy Burkett, leave me especially angry. On the small chance that there is no cover-up or that these kids really did commit suicide, the LE in these cases displayed an astonishing lack of tact and sympathy when dealing with parents who just lost a child . I always wonder if these corrupt or lazy authority figures have children themselves. If they lost a child under suspicious circumstances, could they actually follow the same advice they offer these parents and "just let it go"?

02-18-2011, 05:26 PM	#11
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	Other cases I get angry with are the FINAL APPEAL segments in which the guy imprisoned (Bird Road Rapist comes to mind) is so blatantly innocent, yet they still continue to sit and rot in jail for crimes they did not commit.

02-25-2011, 12:55 PM	#12
MissFit29 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 09, 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 526	I just watched the Elizabeth Campbell segment again, and at the end, they show a scene where her parents ask 2 women on the street if they've seen Elizabeth and show them pictures. I never noticed this part of the exchange: Mr. Campbell: "Have you seen this girl?" Woman: "Why?" Mr. Campbell: "She's our daughter, and she's missing." Woman: "Is there like a reward or something?" Then "Sorry, can't help you." So, two heartbroken people come up to you on the street, trying desperately to find their daughter, and all you can offer up is that you wouldn't be willing to do anything without a monetary benefit?

02-26-2011, 06:14 AM	#13
Cori aka ChrisSCrush Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 30, 2001 Location: USA and still trying to be proud of it! Posts: 2,068	Most of them. Particularly the ones where families were split up simply because a parent who was trying their best was unable to adequately care for children. These agencies should have helped them, not essentially kidnapped the children. In one of these cases the mother actually killed herself after her children were taken from her.

02-26-2011, 08:22 AM	#14
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Some good choices on here. Another one that really aggravates me is that loser Elmer Locker Jr. He asks his elderly parents to bail him out on a drug charge and then skips town leaving them to almost lose their house! Not to mention his brother that was nice enough to mortgage his house to bail out Elmer's friends who he didn't even know and he did end up losing his home!

03-15-2011, 11:19 PM	#15
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	A lot of the cases on UM give me emotional reactions, but I guess the following would be my Top 3: 1. Charlotte Polis-- I think I've been most vocal about her case and how suspicious I found her husband in the whole thing. I still maintain that Paul Polis was lying in his interview to UM. 2. The "Tom Johnson" case-- This one was absolutely senseless. I cannot imagine killing someone over a computer, not to mention the pain that Jeremy must have went through. Then to find that he himself passed away later without ever getting answers to what happened to his fiancee is just the freakin' icing on the cake. 3. Angela Hammond-- I must have watched this segment a hundred times. Every time I watch it, I feel so horrible for her boyfriend who tried to hard to save her.