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Rezny@gmail.com · 02-04-2011, 01:32 AM

He and his family were friends of Steve and the Douglas's in Bryant Park.Question:Was the character Ray Wong first introduced in the ABC/Black and White /Bryant Park episodes or the CBS/Color/Bryant Park Years?

gidgetgrape · 02-04-2011, 03:06 PM

Ray Wong (Benson Fong) was first introduced in season 3, the black and white era.

Here's a list of Ray Wong's appearances:

Honorable Grandfather (3 January 1963) - Season 3
My Fair Chinese Lady (6 February 1964) - Season 4
The Lotus Blossom (26 November 1964) - Season 5
Robbie and the Slave Girl (20 January 1966) - Season 6
Good Guys Finish Last (6 October 1966) - Season 7
Honorable Guest (2 March 1968) - Season 8
Honorable Expectant Grandfather (8 February 1969) - Season 9

Sources: imdb.com and tv.com

biffbronson · 02-07-2011, 11:01 PM

In the episode Robbie and the Slave Girl, watch how the length of Irene Tsu's hair changes from scene to scene. It's longer in the scenes without Fred MacMurray. Obviously she had let it grow prior to her later return for filming of scenes without Fred.

Bonniegirl · 08-30-2014, 08:17 PM

My Three Sons was before it's time. What I mean about that was they featured Asian people in a very cool , respectable manner which is accurate and how they should be portrayed. In the 60's, lots of sitcoms made fun of Asian people, making them very stereotyped, to the point of being insulting. They were portrayed as goofy and buck toothed. Also native Americans a lot of times were portrayed as being goofy stereotypes too!

My Three sons and Family Affair never did that!

visaman666 · 08-31-2014, 02:42 AM

Perhaps, but did you read the titles of the episodes? Honorable, this and Honorable that. Right out of Charlie Chan!

biffbronson · 09-05-2014, 08:39 PM

Benson Fong also did some memorable work on Family Affair. His character is to marry a young Asian woman, but she falls for someone closer to her own age.

Bonniegirl · 09-05-2014, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by biffbronson

Benson Fong also did some memorable work on Family Affair. His character is to marry a young Asian woman, but she falls for someone closer to her own age.

Yes I mentioned Family Affair as having Asian guest stars. And Benson Fong was the same guy that was in My Three Sons too!

I have to admit, I might be contradicting myself, but the Asian stereotype can be funny. 60's TV was a more innocent time, and I guess they didn't mean any harm. Just today on Here's Lucy, she was impersonating a Chinese women that worked in a Laundry , and it was hilarious .

And On Mr. Ed, Wilbur impersonated a Chinese waiter. It was so silly, but funny. And of course the Japanese sailor on Gilligan's Island!

gidgetgrape · 09-28-2014, 12:49 AM

There's a sweet b/w episode about Uncle Charley taking care of a Korean orphan called "Charley and the Kid." I just came across an interview with Stan Livingston, that mentions the lack of diversity on the show.

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It probably was impossible to perpetuate that beyond a certain point anyway with the encroachment of Civil Rights and Vietnam and…we never had any of that [on the show], although we did have a black person. Our producer [cast] a black guy… And it kind of caused a stink on our set [amongst] some of the crew guys, so he basically said to the crew guys, “You don’t like it? You’re f*****’ fired!”

…And…it almost became an issue with the network like, “We can’t have a black guy…they’re supposed to be in the kitchen or be a janitor or something!” and he was just…a regular guy working—I think he played an engineer at the aeronautical plant… So yeah there were some things there that were kind of subtle behind the scenes that really were noteworthy that that happened.

Source (middle of the page): http://thelosangelesbeat.com/2014/07...dhood-stardom/

It's nice to know that at least they wanted to do more and include different types of people. Of course, now I wonder if they did stories about asians because they couldn't do stories about blacks.

paul.austin · 09-28-2014, 01:11 AM

Malcolm X/the Black Panthers terrifying white Middle America probably played a part in the network's reluctance and racism.

gidgetgrape · 09-29-2014, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Brady's Hair

I think that westerns in particular had a number of shows that had Asians, Mexicans, Gypsies or others as targets of community violence, and that those were sometimes stand-ins for direct discussion of civil right.

I didn't know that. That's very interesting.

02-04-2011, 01:32 AM	#1
Rezny@gmail.com Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 20, 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 2,675	On "My Three Sons", remember Ray Wong? He and his family were friends of Steve and the Douglas's in Bryant Park.Question:Was the character Ray Wong first introduced in the ABC/Black and White /Bryant Park episodes or the CBS/Color/Bryant Park Years?

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02-04-2011, 03:06 PM	#2
gidgetgrape Forever Gidget Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 20, 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,503	Ray Wong (Benson Fong) was first introduced in season 3, the black and white era. Here's a list of Ray Wong's appearances: Honorable Grandfather (3 January 1963) - Season 3 My Fair Chinese Lady (6 February 1964) - Season 4 The Lotus Blossom (26 November 1964) - Season 5 Robbie and the Slave Girl (20 January 1966) - Season 6 Good Guys Finish Last (6 October 1966) - Season 7 Honorable Guest (2 March 1968) - Season 8 Honorable Expectant Grandfather (8 February 1969) - Season 9 Sources: imdb.com and tv.com

08-30-2014, 08:17 PM	#4
Bonniegirl AKA Hazel Horvath Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 10, 2014 Posts: 65,758	My Three Sons was before it's time. What I mean about that was they featured Asian people in a very cool , respectable manner which is accurate and how they should be portrayed. In the 60's, lots of sitcoms made fun of Asian people, making them very stereotyped, to the point of being insulting. They were portrayed as goofy and buck toothed. Also native Americans a lot of times were portrayed as being goofy stereotypes too! My Three sons and Family Affair never did that!

08-31-2014, 02:42 AM	#5
visaman666 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 06, 2007 Posts: 818	Perhaps, but did you read the titles of the episodes? Honorable, this and Honorable that. Right out of Charlie Chan!

09-05-2014, 08:39 PM	#6
biffbronson Sentimental Fool Forum Star Join Date: Aug 22, 2009 Location: Near Notre Dame Posts: 10,495	Benson Fong also did some memorable work on Family Affair. His character is to marry a young Asian woman, but she falls for someone closer to her own age.

09-28-2014, 01:11 AM	#9
paul.austin Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 22, 2012 Posts: 673	Malcolm X/the Black Panthers terrifying white Middle America probably played a part in the network's reluctance and racism.