Was There A Real Feud Between Carol Burnett & Mary Tyler Moore??? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Brian Damage · 10-21-2010, 10:31 AM

I read somewhere there was some animosity between the two back in the 70's. Not sure if it is true or not. Did they ever work together on any projects?

McGillicuddy · 10-21-2010, 05:23 PM

I always wondered that myself. I've seen them both on CBS Anniversary Specials or the TVLand Awards, but they never have appeared on stage together, that I know of. They seem to have alot of mutual friends such as Dick Van Dyke and Betty White. I don't think I've ever seen one speak of the other in any interview.
I've never heard of any animosity between them, but, to me, they always seemed estranged from each other.

LittleRickyII · 10-22-2010, 08:29 PM

I've never, ever heard of such a thing. What is the basis for this rumor, just because they never worked together? Did Vicki Lawrence ever work with Mary Tyler Moore? Did Ed Asner ever work with Carol Burnett? If we were to assume two people who have never worked together must be feuding, then every person in Hollywood must be in a feud with someone.

McGillicuddy · 10-22-2010, 08:49 PM

It's so interesting to see Mary and Carol in pictures together. Thanks for posting

LittleRickyII · 10-22-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by markway895

It's so interesting to see Mary and Carol in pictures together. Thanks for posting

You're welcome. They're together AND smiling.

Benno123 · 10-23-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRickyII

You're welcome. They're together AND smiling.

The feud must be over then!!!!! Thanks for the post of pictures, always nice to see a couple of my favorites together!

80sTrivia · 10-23-2010, 12:19 PM

Great photographs of two of my all-time favorite ladies together!

LittleRickyII · 10-23-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Benno123

The feud must be over then!!!!!

Meaning there never was one?

PGood97041 · 10-23-2010, 08:27 PM

Those pics are fantastic, and I'm glad to see that there doesn't appear to be anything but admiration between these two lovely ladies and brilliant talents!

old grouch · 10-23-2010, 10:54 PM

I wish they would find a project to do together some time. That would be cool.

Benno123 · 10-24-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRickyII

Meaning there never was one?

Just my sarcastic way of saying that a feud between the two sounds like a bunch of made up BS.

LittleRickyII · 10-25-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Benno123

Just my sarcastic way of saying that a feud between the two sounds like a bunch of made up BS.

Exactly. And it makes me uncomfortable when baseless controversies like this are brought up. It would be one thing if one of them had made an unflattering comment about the other that was on the record, but here there appears to be nothing on the record, no eyewitness account, nothing; thus, no basis for making this assertion. That makes it nothing but idle gossip which doesn't warrant a discussion.

If anything, there seems to be a world of reasons why these two women could be friends. Think of all that they have in common:

1) They are first two showbiz superstars whose careers were created by television;

2) They are from the same generation, very close in age, and got their career start in the '50s;

3) They both rose to national prominence as supporting players on a popular TV show starring a male performer (Mary on The Dick Van Dyke Show; Carol on The Garry Moore Show);

4) Both reached their career peaks at around the same time, starring in their own self-named TV shows on the same network (CBS) and, for awhile, on the same night (Saturday);

5) Both had their shows produced by their husbands at the time (Grant Tinker and Joe Hamilton);

6) Both had a protegee from their respective show spin-off into their own successful series (Valerie Harper in Rhoda; Vicki Lawrence in Mama's Family);

7) Both have a fondness for performing in a musical comedy/variety format (of course, only Carol succeeded at that);

8) They have both tried, but not succeeded, at a follow-up television career after their 1970s success (Mary in Mary, The Mary Tyler Moore Hour, Mary, Annie McGuire, and New York News; Carol in Carol and Company);

9) Both made a mark in dramatic performances after making a name in comedy (most notably, Mary in Ordinary People, and Carol in Friendly Fire);

10) Both ended up divorcing their producer husbands;

11) Both are now married to much, much younger men (Mary's is 17 years her junior, Carol's is 23 years her junior);

12) Sadly, both have tragically lost a child.

PGood97041 · 10-26-2010, 03:25 PM

I'm sensing lately that a few of these topics are put out there solely to increase traffic, and there's nothing wrong with that.
If I see a topic I'm interested in, I will comment on it.

Where I think this particular thread went wrong is use of the word "feud".
Why not have phrased it "Why so little collaboration between Mary Tyler Moore and Carol Burnett?" or something along those lines.

I think "feud" went too far, but I DO think that it's a legitimate question about why these fantastic ladies, whose careers WERE somewhat similar, never or rarely worked together.

P.S. But, again, loved the B + W pics and am glad to see that they seem to have a good relationship.

Benno123 · 10-26-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PGood97041

I'm sensing lately that a few of these topics are put out there solely to increase traffic, and there's nothing wrong with that.
If I see a topic I'm interested in, I will comment on it.

Where I think this particular thread went wrong is use of the word "feud".
Why not have phrased it "Why so little collaboration between Mary Tyler Moore and Carol Burnett?" or something along those lines.

I think "feud" went too far, but I DO think that it's a legitimate question about why these fantastic ladies, whose careers WERE somewhat similar, never or rarely worked together.

P.S. But, again, loved the B + W pics and am glad to see that they seem to have a good relationship.

I think those are all valid points, and I agree that the word "feud" was wrong. Now had the question been "Why did CB and MTM appear together on The Family Feud?" then the use of feud would have been appropriate!

I'm kidding about that, but I do agree that word choice makes all the difference.

likewow · 11-19-2010, 06:32 PM

Those pictures are great, especially the first one!

Interestingly, I've wondered about their relationship too. They were onstage together during the 'Funny Women of Television' clip special some years ago, at the end. Carol looked at Mary, but Mary didn't make eye contact. It just got me wondering.

I've heard Mary talk about Carol's variety show in interviews. Sure would've liked to see them work together!

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LittleRickyII Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 22, 2009 Location: California Posts: 2,246	I've never, ever heard of such a thing. What is the basis for this rumor, just because they never worked together? Did Vicki Lawrence ever work with Mary Tyler Moore? Did Ed Asner ever work with Carol Burnett? If we were to assume two people who have never worked together must be feuding, then every person in Hollywood must be in a feud with someone. Attached Images

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10-21-2010, 05:23 PM	#2
McGillicuddy Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Posts: 5,179	I always wondered that myself. I've seen them both on CBS Anniversary Specials or the TVLand Awards, but they never have appeared on stage together, that I know of. They seem to have alot of mutual friends such as Dick Van Dyke and Betty White. I don't think I've ever seen one speak of the other in any interview. I've never heard of any animosity between them, but, to me, they always seemed estranged from each other.

10-22-2010, 08:49 PM	#4
McGillicuddy Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Posts: 5,179	It's so interesting to see Mary and Carol in pictures together. Thanks for posting

10-23-2010, 08:27 PM	#9
PGood97041 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 03, 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 747	Those pics are fantastic, and I'm glad to see that there doesn't appear to be anything but admiration between these two lovely ladies and brilliant talents!

10-23-2010, 10:54 PM	#10
old grouch Member Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2010 Location: montana Posts: 1,877	I wish they would find a project to do together some time. That would be cool.

10-26-2010, 03:25 PM	#13
PGood97041 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 03, 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 747	I'm sensing lately that a few of these topics are put out there solely to increase traffic, and there's nothing wrong with that. If I see a topic I'm interested in, I will comment on it. Where I think this particular thread went wrong is use of the word "feud". Why not have phrased it "Why so little collaboration between Mary Tyler Moore and Carol Burnett?" or something along those lines. I think "feud" went too far, but I DO think that it's a legitimate question about why these fantastic ladies, whose careers WERE somewhat similar, never or rarely worked together. P.S. But, again, loved the B + W pics and am glad to see that they seem to have a good relationship.

11-19-2010, 06:32 PM	#15
likewow Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 28, 2003 Posts: 217	Those pictures are great, especially the first one! Interestingly, I've wondered about their relationship too. They were onstage together during the 'Funny Women of Television' clip special some years ago, at the end. Carol looked at Mary, but Mary didn't make eye contact. It just got me wondering. I've heard Mary talk about Carol's variety show in interviews. Sure would've liked to see them work together!