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ctgrumpybear · 09-15-2010, 12:40 PM

There was a case that they shown on UM as an alert about a teenage girl who was killed in cold blood. In this case th girl's grave stone was trash two times and some belive it was her killer.First someone use a pencil to draw on a photo of her that was on grave that it was someone took the grave stone and toss it . Than the person the cops belive who was the killer made some calls talking about the case.

anyone rember this case

Kane · 09-15-2010, 04:15 PM

I sure do. But by the time UM aired that "special bulletin" segment, I had already seen the case on the now-defunct TV show Hard Copy. The murder victim was 16-year-old Tanya Smith. Her friend, then-15-year-old, Misty Cockerill survived the attack. The killer was identified as Terry Driver. Not only is Driver incarcerated for the murder and attempted murder, but he has been suspected of other murders.

Here is a link to a 2009 article on Misty Cockerill, who is now an advocate for victims' rights.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...-survivor.html

TracyLynnS · 09-15-2010, 07:03 PM

Canada doesn't have the death penalty, which is the same as some of the states in the US. I liked this info that I found in the article linked above:

"""He was sentenced to a life term in prison and was designated a dangerous offender in 2000, permitting his indefinite incarceration."""

Do any states have a similar designation, that will keep such a dangerous person from ever getting out of prison to continue their criminal activities?

Kenneth McDuff is one that comes to mind here. If he'd been sentenced as a dangerous offender, he would have never been let out on that supposed prison overcrowding excuse, only to rape, torture, and murder again.

Doesn't California have a Three Strikes law? Is that similar to Canada's "dangerous offender" status?

justins5256 · 09-16-2010, 10:25 AM

Question - I remember a UM story about a murder that involved a marker being defaced. Perhaps the marker was placed where the victim's body was discovered. I seem to recollect someone placing a framed photograph of the victim near the marker. Then, some time later, the frame was shattered, and the marker defaced. There may have been other similar incidents as well. Does anyone recall which case this was?

TracyLynnS · 09-16-2010, 12:12 PM

In the Jennifer Lueth and Diane Shawcroft murders, there was a memorial placed at the location where the bodies were found. The police checked it periodically hoping that the killer(s) would return. When they weren't watching, someone stole the photographs from their frames.

ctgrumpybear · 09-16-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane

I sure do. But by the time UM aired that "special bulletin" segment, I had already seen the case on the now-defunct TV show Hard Copy. The murder victim was 16-year-old Tanya Smith. Her friend, then-15-year-old, Misty Cockerill survived the attack. The killer was identified as Terry Driver. Not only is Driver incarcerated for the murder and attempted murder, but he has been suspected of other murders.

Here is a link to a 2009 article on Misty Cockerill, who is now an advocate for victims' rights.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...-survivor.html

thax you big time I was thinking about this case the other day

MegtheEgg86 · 09-16-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by justins5256

Question - I remember a UM story about a murder that involved a marker being defaced. Perhaps the marker was placed where the victim's body was discovered. I seem to recollect someone placing a framed photograph of the victim near the marker. Then, some time later, the frame was shattered, and the marker defaced. There may have been other similar incidents as well. Does anyone recall which case this was?

Lueth/Shawcroft rings the biggest bell for me, too. What was so creepy about it was that the marker was in the exact place where they'd been found, which was in the middle of an Arizona desert and quite remote. Whomever took the pictures from their frames, therefore, probably deliberately set out to visit the site.

I think those are some of the most disturbing segments, those in which graves are defaced. Didn't that happen in the Marilu Geri case, too?

09-15-2010, 12:40 PM	#1
ctgrumpybear Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 09, 2010 Posts: 117	Help with rembering an old case There was a case that they shown on UM as an alert about a teenage girl who was killed in cold blood. In this case th girl's grave stone was trash two times and some belive it was her killer.First someone use a pencil to draw on a photo of her that was on grave that it was someone took the grave stone and toss it . Than the person the cops belive who was the killer made some calls talking about the case. anyone rember this case

09-15-2010, 04:15 PM	#2
Kane Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 07, 2001 Location: MA, United States Posts: 3,367	I sure do. But by the time UM aired that "special bulletin" segment, I had already seen the case on the now-defunct TV show Hard Copy. The murder victim was 16-year-old Tanya Smith. Her friend, then-15-year-old, Misty Cockerill survived the attack. The killer was identified as Terry Driver. Not only is Driver incarcerated for the murder and attempted murder, but he has been suspected of other murders. Here is a link to a 2009 article on Misty Cockerill, who is now an advocate for victims' rights. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...-survivor.html

09-15-2010, 07:03 PM	#3
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	Canada doesn't have the death penalty, which is the same as some of the states in the US. I liked this info that I found in the article linked above: """He was sentenced to a life term in prison and was designated a dangerous offender in 2000, permitting his indefinite incarceration.""" Do any states have a similar designation, that will keep such a dangerous person from ever getting out of prison to continue their criminal activities? Kenneth McDuff is one that comes to mind here. If he'd been sentenced as a dangerous offender, he would have never been let out on that supposed prison overcrowding excuse, only to rape, torture, and murder again. Doesn't California have a Three Strikes law? Is that similar to Canada's "dangerous offender" status?

09-16-2010, 10:25 AM	#4
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Question - I remember a UM story about a murder that involved a marker being defaced. Perhaps the marker was placed where the victim's body was discovered. I seem to recollect someone placing a framed photograph of the victim near the marker. Then, some time later, the frame was shattered, and the marker defaced. There may have been other similar incidents as well. Does anyone recall which case this was?

09-16-2010, 12:12 PM	#5
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	In the Jennifer Lueth and Diane Shawcroft murders, there was a memorial placed at the location where the bodies were found. The police checked it periodically hoping that the killer(s) would return. When they weren't watching, someone stole the photographs from their frames.