Was the 'Gloria' Spinoff A Case of Too Little Too Late? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Brian Damage · 09-06-2010, 05:17 PM

I've seen this spinoff and honestly it wasn't all that bad. It was a little hard seeing Gloria as a single mom and all, but the cast was ok and show did have some LOL moments. Was this a case of a spinoff that was too late in development as the whole 'All in the Family' phenomenom was wearing thin...Agree?

Jude The Obscure · 09-06-2010, 05:22 PM

I watched it and enjoyed it and it ranked #18 for the season and still CBS canceled it.....

Mr. Television · 09-06-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jude The Obscure

I watched it and enjoyed it and it ranked #18 for the season and still CBS canceled it.....

That was the surprise cancellation of the season. It was a good show. I enjoyed it.

Retro4Life · 09-06-2010, 05:51 PM

I think Gloria would have had a hard road to hoe no matter when it premiered, since any of those characters on their own was much weaker than the whole ensemble, and of the four, Gloria had the least depth (through no fault of Sally Struthers who did wonders in the role).

But yeah, if they were going to do it it would have made a lot more sense to have done it right after Mike and Gloria moved out west.

TVFactFan · 09-06-2010, 09:08 PM

Maybe CBS felt #18 was too low for a show with All in the Family connections-lol

I think Networks expect to see results like what happened with Happy Days and Laverne and Shirley. Both shows were in the top 5 for mutiplte seasons and that's probably why 18 was too low

Brian Damage · 09-06-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TVFactFan

Maybe CBS felt #18 was too low for a show with All in the Family connections-lol

I think Networks expect to see results like what happened with Happy Days and Laverne and Shirley. Both shows were in the top 5 for mutiplte seasons and that's probably why 18 was too low

What shows were surrounding Gloria?

TVFactFan · 09-06-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

What shows were surrounding Gloria?

The same shows surrounding ABP, Matt Houston and Chips. But it actually did better than ABP since ABP was #23. So now this cancellation is really a mystery-lol

Brian Damage · 09-06-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TVFactFan

The same shows surrounding ABP, Matt Houston and Chips. But it actually did better than ABP since ABP was #23. So now this cancellation is really a mystery-lol

I must delve deeper to find an answer to why this was canceled!

Mr. Television · 09-06-2010, 10:00 PM

Maybe since CBS was cancelling ABP, they figured they'd end everything connected to the Bunkers all at once. In the fall of 1983 CBS brought back Alice on Sunday nights and the only new sitcom was Goodnight Beantown which had premiered as a midseason replacement the year before. It was cancelled by December.

Brian Damage · 09-06-2010, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuck In The '70's

Maybe since CBS was cancelling ABP, they figured they'd end everything connected to the Bunkers all at once. In the fall of 1983 CBS brought back Alice on Sunday nights and the only new sitcom was Goodnight Beantown which had premiered as a midseason replacement the year before. It was cancelled by December.

I guess that makes sense in a way...However, ratings=money for the netwrks and 'Gloria' seemed to live up to its end.

Robert 13 · 09-07-2010, 09:52 AM

This is actually one of my favorite short-lived series. I have inquired to Shout about including episodes on the forthcoming "All in the Family" season sets. But it doesn't look they are able to include them. Too bad though, it would give the sets a bit of "bonus feature" substance.

onederboi779 · 10-11-2010, 04:06 AM

one thing i didnt understand was that if sally struthers was willing to reprise the role why didnt they just keep her on archie bunkers place?dont get me wrong ive seen a few episodes of gloria before and they were pretty good but i think it would have been better if they had her as a regular on archie bunkers place who knows it may have continued another season or more if they did that.

cleverfun3000 · 10-11-2010, 11:33 AM

The show was #18 when CBS canceled it (source: IMDB.com/messageboard/GLORIA) but since Sally Struther's character simply couldn't carry an entire show, it was basically doomed from the start.

HelloLarry · 10-11-2010, 12:29 PM

There was some speculation that while Gloria and ABP were canceled, Alice and Dukes of Hazzard (which were rated lower) were renewed because they were Warner Brothers properties. Someone high up in CBS was also a chariman of Warner apparently.

ABP had pretty much run its course and it was amazing that they got 4 seasons out of it. By the 4th season all of Archie's antagonists were gone (Murray and Veronica), Edith was dead, and the stories shifted more to the kids probably to get more youthful viewers which has been a complaint about CBS programming for years (being geared to an older audience). While I watched until the end, it just kind of fizzled. It was a same too because overall, after 13 seasons between the two shows, it deserved a better exit. The last episode of the series (I'm Torn Here) is pretty average and underwhelming.

Hughsgirl · 10-13-2010, 02:10 PM

I have never watched the show so I can't really form an opinion on whether or not it came too late. So it's true that Mike and Gloria divorced and Mike joined a comune and dumped all his responsibilities as a father and became the loser I always said he was?

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Robert 13 Member Senior Member Join Date: May 10, 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,521	This is actually one of my favorite short-lived series. I have inquired to Shout about including episodes on the forthcoming "All in the Family" season sets. But it doesn't look they are able to include them. Too bad though, it would give the sets a bit of "bonus feature" substance.
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09-06-2010, 05:22 PM	#2
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,519	I watched it and enjoyed it and it ranked #18 for the season and still CBS canceled it.....

09-06-2010, 09:08 PM	#5
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 98,962	Maybe CBS felt #18 was too low for a show with All in the Family connections-lol I think Networks expect to see results like what happened with Happy Days and Laverne and Shirley. Both shows were in the top 5 for mutiplte seasons and that's probably why 18 was too low

09-06-2010, 10:00 PM	#9
Mr. Television 22 Years at Sitcoms Online Forum Icon Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Location: Somewhere you're Not Posts: 62,125	Maybe since CBS was cancelling ABP, they figured they'd end everything connected to the Bunkers all at once. In the fall of 1983 CBS brought back Alice on Sunday nights and the only new sitcom was Goodnight Beantown which had premiered as a midseason replacement the year before. It was cancelled by December.

10-11-2010, 04:06 AM	#12
onederboi779 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 05, 2007 Location: massachusettes Posts: 26	one thing i didnt understand was that if sally struthers was willing to reprise the role why didnt they just keep her on archie bunkers place?dont get me wrong ive seen a few episodes of gloria before and they were pretty good but i think it would have been better if they had her as a regular on archie bunkers place who knows it may have continued another season or more if they did that.

10-11-2010, 11:33 AM	#13
cleverfun3000 Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 18, 2008 Location: Manhattan Posts: 1,685	The show was #18 when CBS canceled it (source: IMDB.com/messageboard/GLORIA) but since Sally Struther's character simply couldn't carry an entire show, it was basically doomed from the start.

10-11-2010, 12:29 PM	#14
HelloLarry Meathead Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 273	There was some speculation that while Gloria and ABP were canceled, Alice and Dukes of Hazzard (which were rated lower) were renewed because they were Warner Brothers properties. Someone high up in CBS was also a chariman of Warner apparently. ABP had pretty much run its course and it was amazing that they got 4 seasons out of it. By the 4th season all of Archie's antagonists were gone (Murray and Veronica), Edith was dead, and the stories shifted more to the kids probably to get more youthful viewers which has been a complaint about CBS programming for years (being geared to an older audience). While I watched until the end, it just kind of fizzled. It was a same too because overall, after 13 seasons between the two shows, it deserved a better exit. The last episode of the series (I'm Torn Here) is pretty average and underwhelming.

10-13-2010, 02:10 PM	#15
Hughsgirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 22, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 804	I have never watched the show so I can't really form an opinion on whether or not it came too late. So it's true that Mike and Gloria divorced and Mike joined a comune and dumped all his responsibilities as a father and became the loser I always said he was?