Facts and information intentionally withheld by UM you wish you were privy to...

[justins5256]

Throughout the history of the show, there are certain aspects of cases that are not completely revealed, yet are still alluded to either by Stack, or someone during an interview (an investigator), or even an update, yet we are not privy to everything.

I thought it might be interesting to compile a list of such vague clues as well as speculation as to what this information might be, and why it was withheld in the first place.

- The new evidence unearthed by the show that led to Tim McClure's arrest for the murder of his mother.

- The contents of the "Spot in the Road" letter and how they pertained to Tommy Gibson's disappearance.

- The new evidence that led to Steve Shores' exoneration for Garrison Hester's murder.

- The details of the torture done to Jay Cook that indicated to authorities that the killer was probably an ex-con.

My thoughts

- Since McClure was never convicted for the murder of his mother, the new information may have been withheld to protect his privacy. This new information allegedly came to light during a rebroadcast of the show on Lifetime. I think it's reasonable to assume that a viewer who was in or around the area at the time of Terri McClure's death may have seen something that contradicted Tim's alibi or a statement he made on the program.

- I believe Meg once theorized that "Spot on the Road" could have been a neighbor of the Gibsons and given their unique vantage point, may have seen something that would have proved crucial to the investigation (this would fit with the author's unique pseudonym). The letter could also have been written by a family member who heard a statement made by the Gibsons.

- No clue on Shores. The update was on Spike so they just might not have cared to look into the circumstances too deeply.

- Prisoners have limited access to basic utensils and items that could potentially be turned into weapons. Perhaps the torture was done crudely with a common object. The info was probably withheld to weed out false confessions or red herrings should a viable suspect turn up at some point.

Any thoughts?

[SageSlowdive]

I find it interesting that UM disclosed Dick Hansen was an addicted drug user...

[MegtheEgg86]

Originally Posted by justins5256

Throughout the history of the show, there are certain aspects of cases that are not completely revealed, yet are still alluded to either by Stack, or someone during an interview (an investigator), or even an update, yet we are not privy to everything.

I thought it might be interesting to compile a list of such vague clues as well as speculation as to what this information might be, and why it was withheld in the first place.

Great thread topic. I'm excited to see what responses we all come up with.

The contents of the "Spot in the Road" letter and how they pertained to Tommy Gibson's disappearance.

- The details of the torture done to Jay Cook that indicated to authorities that the killer was probably an ex-con.

Those two were the very first things that popped into my head when I saw the thread title.



- I would like to know much more about the briefly mentioned suspect in the Rebecca Young case. Virtually all we know about the man was that he was overheard bragging that he'd "killed a black woman." I know the police must have better reason than that to believe he may have been responsible for her murder.

- What exactly was found in "Loren's" apartment that may implicate him in the murders of Marie Lillienburg and Maria Wahlen.

- This may not fit neatly into this category as it wasn't a piece of verbally stated information, but I've always wondered why the male suspect composite in the Roxann Jeeves/Kristopher Korper case was drawn with a hand in front of his mouth.

- Possibly completely unrelated to the case as a whole, but A) why was Kaitlyn Arquette's boyfriend's name never revealed (he was called "Kaitlyn's boyfriend" through the entire segment), and B) for what reason were his friends constantly "making fun of her"?

[MegtheEgg86]

Also: what about Holly Krewson's skeletal remains led investigators to believe she was murdered, and why won't they release that information? It seems many people with the most basic knowledge of forensic examination know that certain breakages or nicks in the bones can indicate the manner of death--isn't that a rather common fact?

[soilentgreen]

What information did the police have that led them to believe that the two Mary Morris murders weren't connected? They also (sensibly) held back the second Mary Morris' 911 call.

UM refrained from mentioning what chemical Joseph Maloney poisoned his wife with. My guess being that it was thallium sulfate or something similar that would have been in a chemistry lab set of that era.

Rae Ann Mossor's boyfriend was never mentioned by name, nor was there any mention if he or or the witnesses were contacted by UM.

As far as Deborah Poe, UM made no mention of her boyfriend (who apparently saw her at 1 am, and a different friend was the last person to see her). Interesting, as he seems to be the person police are now focusing on.

[RobinW]

In the Loretta Myers disappearance, I found it bizarre that they provided zero information about the con artist "husband" that disappeared with her. Loretta's son interacted with him several times and even though he probably didn't reveal his real name, I'd think he would have at least provided a first name. And even though I'm sure no photograph of him existed, I have no idea why UM didn't provide a composite sketch or a physical description.

I understand that for legal reasons, UM can't always provide information about suspects, but this guy was a missing person who was clearly taking advantage of a confused old woman and could potentially endanger her life. If they provide a description of him, it only increases their chances of finding her. Thankfully, Loretta was eventually found unharmed, but we never did find out anything about this guy.

Likewise, in the disappearance of Lisa Bishop and the Freedom, I found it weird that they briefly mentioned that the Haitian crew of the boat were also missing, but didn't provide ANY info about them. They may not have been the main focus on the story, but they're still human beings, and even if they were directly responsible for Lisa's disappearance, finding them only increases the chances of finding her.

[xxxxmattxxxx69]

UM never revealed that Angelo Desideri was a drug dealer before he was killed.

[XCalibur]

Originally Posted by RobinW

In the Loretta Myers disappearance, I found it bizarre that they provided zero information about the con artist "husband" that disappeared with her. Loretta's son interacted with him several times and even though he probably didn't reveal his real name, I'd think he would have at least provided a first name. And even though I'm sure no photograph of him existed, I have no idea why UM didn't provide a composite sketch or a physical description.

I understand that for legal reasons, UM can't always provide information about suspects, but this guy was a missing person who was clearly taking advantage of a confused old woman and could potentially endanger her life. If they provide a description of him, it only increases their chances of finding her. Thankfully, Loretta was eventually found unharmed, but we never did find out anything about this guy.

Likewise, in the disappearance of Lisa Bishop and the Freedom, I found it weird that they briefly mentioned that the Haitian crew of the boat were also missing, but didn't provide ANY info about them. They may not have been the main focus on the story, but they're still human beings, and even if they were directly responsible for Lisa's disappearance, finding them only increases the chances of finding her.

Kind of like the kid who dissapeared along with Clifford Sherwood.

[XCalibur]

Originally Posted by xxxxmattxxxx69

UM never revealed that Angelo Desideri was a drug dealer before he was killed.

Dam! I don't even remember that from the update!

But it makes sense, otherwise why would hoods like Joe Kello and James Majors be interested in killing him?

You are right though, the broadcast portrayed him as an unassuming old Christian man who never did anything to anyone. Surprising to learn he was a drug dealer.

[WishfulDreamer]

I was unaware of this. May I ask where you got this information from? It's very interesting and if true it definitely sheds some light into motive. The broadcast made it sound like they targeted him randomly.

[RobinW]

Originally Posted by XCalibur

Kind of like the kid who dissapeared along with Clifford Sherwood.

Also, the unsolved murder of the kid named Eugene which was briefly mentioned at the end of the Kurt Sova segment. And the other boy who was burned in the shack with Scott Johnson who never even had his name mentioned on the broadcast (though I'm guessing UM just couldn't secure permission from the boy's family).

[crystaldawn]

Interesting topic. I too have always wondered about the letter from "spot in the road" in the Tommy Gibson case. I would also like to read the entire contents of the letter of Tom Roche's killer to see if it divulged any more information.

Some others I would add are:

I wish UM would have been more forthcoming in the Mikki Jo West segment. I understand why they couldn't have mentioned the killer's name as it appeared in the letters but they could have told us the man whose name appeared in the letters just happened to be the suspect they mentioned and it was his marital dispute that Mikki was in the middle of.

The letter written by Keith Reinhard to his wife shortly before he disappeared should have been mentioned. It seem to indicate that he was ready to conquer his fear and try and climb the mountain again but it seems that UM just wanted to slant the story to make it seem like something more sinister happened.

I think if UM had mentioned all the accusations of the shady dealings with Tammy that her mother was involved in it would have given more credence to the possibility of her running away. I'm really starting to lean towards that with everything I've learned.

They should have portrayed Ed Walters (Gulf Breeze UFO's) like the nutjob he really was instead of giving him the attention he so much wanted.

I would have liked them to mention more about the gun used in Rae Ann Mossor's death, most importantly who it belonged to.

They should have mentioned a possible connection in the Charlie Anderson murder and the murder of Carol Montecalvo since UM profiled both cases.

I think they left a lot out in the Leonard Dirickson case we've still yet to find out. His case just doesn't add up.

I'm currently reading the book about Danny Paquette's murder and there is A LOT in his case UM left out. They portray him in a positive light whereas the book doesn't at all. Basically say he was a child molester that raped his stepdaughter and many people who knew who killed him and kept it quiet for years thought he got what he deserved. This is completely different from how UM portrayed him. Also while I'm on the topic, they do talk about Rena Paquette's murder and there's little doubt that she was murdered by the same man who killed those two young girls. His mother had confided to Rena that she thought he did it (seemingly wanting Rena to go to the authorities because she couldn't bring herself to) so Rena did go to the cops and she had an argument with Edward Coolidge shortly before she was found burned to death in a pigsty on her property that Coolidge is thought to have killed one of the girls at. They only bothered to try him for one of the murders and I believe there was a problem with something in his case and he was released from prison 5 years ago. Another fact that UM didn't mention is that semen was found in Rena Paquette but police didn't bother testing it or even asking her husband about it.

Two more things that weren't really relative to the cases but I think would have given even more sympathy to the victims that UM didn't mention was that Angela Hammond was pregnant and Gretchen Burford was a newlywed when she was murdered.

Just to clarify some of the earlier posts, I don't believe UM ever mentioned Dick Hansen's drug use or that Angelo Desidari was a drug dealer. I think those are things people learned in their internet searches and articles on the cases.

[SageSlowdive]

Someone mentioned in a newspaper article on the case, Dick was addicted to some sort of drug (I'm guessing something hard like cocaine or crack), and he could have possibly known his killer.

[Charli-Ann]

Originally Posted by crystaldawn

I think if UM had mentioned all the accusations of the shady dealings with Tammy that her mother was involved in it would have given more credence to the possibility of her running away. I'm really starting to lean towards that with everything I've learned.

Crystaldawn,
Just curious, is this the Tammi Lynn Leppert case that you're referring to here?

Thanks,
Charli-Ann

[crystaldawn]

Originally Posted by Charli-Ann

Crystaldawn,
Just curious, is this the Tammi Lynn Leppert case that you're referring to here?

Thanks,
Charli-Ann

Yes, thats the one.