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lm · 06-08-2010, 11:51 AM

This used to be one of my son's favorite episodes but it wasn't that high up
on my list, despite the "old" castaways.

I like the way they tried to keep the existing age differences there even
among the old castaways, although the Skipper looks older than Mr.
Howell, like someone from the Bible!

Why doesn't Gilligan want to dance at the party; in other episodes he
sometimes seeks a dance?

Hey, MAGs: how do you explain Gilligan's seeming total non-resistance to
Ginger's kiss--although doesn't it look as if it doesn't even affect him?
Is he, also, kissing her? Watch the scene.

I love the Frankenstein's Monster scene.

I lovethe joke about the Christmas presents being hidden ("Oh boy!")

littlesoprano · 06-09-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lm

I like the way they tried to keep the existing age differences there even
among the old castaways, although the Skipper looks older than Mr.
Howell, like someone from the Bible!

Why doesn't Gilligan want to dance at the party; in other episodes he
sometimes seeks a dance?

Hey, MAGs: how do you explain Gilligan's seeming total non-resistance to
Ginger's kiss--although doesn't it look as if it doesn't even affect him?
Is he, also, kissing her? Watch the scene.

The age difference retention is fun, though it is pretty unlikely that the Howells and possibly even Skipper would still be alive after 50 years. Still, I can see why they wouldn't want to bring that into the episode. Good call on that from the writers.

Why doesn't Old!Gilligan want to dance? Maybe he has rheumatism?

The kiss scene in this episode is interesting. There are a few S2 and S3 episodes that I can think of in which Gilligan doesn't resist Ginger, most notably the marathon kiss in "It's a Bird! It's a Plane!" Maybe he'd gotten used to her advances, or he'd figured out that going along with them was the quickest way to get them to end.

What makes this one different is that Gilligan encourages Ginger to try to get the information from him. He's just having fun with her, but surely he knew what method she was going to employ? Either he just wasn't thinking, or Gilligan is a smoother operator than anyone gives him credit for! (; At times, it almost seems that he is using reverse psychology to get her to keep going with it - or it could be argued, anyway.

A couple of questions - this is one of two Gilligan dream sequences in which the Professor is portrayed as a lascivious, leering "dirty old man" type. What's up with that? Also, why did Ginger think that no one would remember her birthday?

callensensei · 06-09-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by littlesoprano

Why doesn't Old!Gilligan want to dance? Maybe he has rheumatism?

What makes this one different is that Gilligan encourages Ginger to try to get the information from him. He's just having fun with her, but surely he knew what method she was going to employ? Either he just wasn't thinking, or Gilligan is a smoother operator than anyone gives him credit for! (; At times, it almost seems that he is using reverse psychology to get her to keep going with it - or it could be argued, anyway.

A couple of questions - this is one of two Gilligan dream sequences in which the Professor is portrayed as a lascivious, leering "dirty old man" type. What's up with that? Also, why did Ginger think that no one would remember her birthday?

Okay: I am going to have to watch this one again.

I didn't think "old Gilligan" didn't want to dance; it seemed that the pairs just worked out this way. Perhaps he would have gotten up for the next set. Love how "old Skipper" nearly knocks "old Professor" over as he races to dance with Ginger. Seems "old Professor" is not the only dirty old man around!

True: Gilligan is rather teasing Ginger when she's trying to get the information out of him. He surely knows by the point where she's running her fingers through his hair what she going to try next. Was that "my lips are sealed" line a bit of a prompt? Why mention lips at all? In "Mine Hero" he's certainly teasing her when she's trying to get his necklace away and he lets her hug him: look at his sly grin at the end! And in "V is for Vitamins" there's that innocent little, "Because why?" It's fun to watch that playful, slightly romantic element of their relationship develop over season two. And as for the marathon kiss in season three...oooh la la!

Fanfic fodder, LS!

Why did Ginger think no one would remember her birthday? Maybe she doesn't like to advertise the fact that she's getting older. Maybe since it's so close to Christmas (since Mary Ann thinks they're getting ready for the Christmas party) she thinks it will be overshadowed by the seasonal festivities. Say, does this mean Ginger is a Sagittarius or Capricorn? I would have picked Leo or Scorpio for her.

Here's another question: were the Skipper and the Professor in the Professor's hut drinking rum punch when the storm broke? Why do they leave poor Gilligan outside asleep in a storm, and why don't they take the lightning rod to the meteor as they had originally planned? It seems as though they've forgotten and Gilligan ends up having to do this dangerous and vital task on his own. His quick thinking saves all their lives, but he nearly gets killed himself.

And finally, kudos to Russell Johnson for physical comedy that puts him right up there with masters like Hale and Denver. The scene where the Skipper and the Professor are trying to put together that silly bamboo geiger counter is a riot. They break that thing in a different way each time! And look at the faces the Professor pulls! You're just waiting for him to blow his stack the whole time.

Steve Carras · 06-11-2010, 03:19 AM

Wait! Wait! Wait! There's something FUNNY going on back there. Yes, there was, and also somewhagt nail biting with the various "sudden danger" parts like the aging and the creepy "Martin Denny/Les Baxter" custom-stock music for the show.

This was the last episode from the second season and has some great funny stuff from The professor saying from offscreen: "Get away from there-fast!" in the beginning with Gilligan mistaking it naturally [though a bit clueless eve for him] for a talking meteor [yeah, ha ha] while the Skipper sets him straight as always, as well as the comments from Gillgan regarding the meteor's aging properties [while him, the Professor & the Skipper are in protective coating] "Even we feel older-since we've been talking", then "but why'd you have to tell me-why why", then a treat for those who want to see the skipper get his for always swatting Gilligan's head with a cap.

This is a rather eerie & spooky episode in the discovery of the tree that Gilligan tripped on suddenly after the scene flip-segue now aging [as in the above scene.]

The scenes with Gilligan and Mary-Ann [she asks him about how many Mary-Anns did he know] outside the hut and also the attempt by Gilligan to 1) enter said hut but 2) NOT disturb the Skipper & Professor rigvht after as a running gag are fun.

And yes, callensensi, Russell Johnson's professor just as in the episode several titles before it "V for Vitamins" [and it's V FOR Vitamins, again, NOT V IS for Vitamins going by everything I've read in references in books and online sites] Gilligan dreams that the Prof.is a dirty old man, and Gilligan's the only one to dream that.

"Mary-Ann...--we ARE all the girls".

lm · 02-07-2011, 03:08 PM

Good points, everyone!

Good ideas regarding Ginger's birthday--its being close to Christmas being the reason. It also might be that Ginger is not the "diva" that everyone thinks and there is some humility here in her not automatically assuming that everyone remembered her birthday. I can tell you that I have friends who have been friends with me for years who STILL never know when my birthday is!

Yeah, this Gilligan/Ginger kiss thing is getting more complicated as we talk about it and, yes, GREAT fanfiction material--someone should do it! The prompting idea would be an interesting thing to look at. He certainly doesn't look uncomfortable in any of these scenes. But, what do you think about his REACTION to the kisses once he gets them--ok--"It's A Bird..." is obvious, he's transported by the kiss--but is he even reacting in "Vitamins" or here in "Meteor?" Is this some kind of reaction or is it just another version of the pole but here the oddity is being non-affected. So, is he affected or not and, if so, what do the MAGs say about this???

Regarding the dirty old man professor--this is Gilligan's dream. Also, the Professor is generally healthy and knowledgable about health. One thing about Professor types is that they are in the kind of job that does not necessarily become affected by ageism. They are still viewed as vital and having something to contribute--even moreso with age. They are known to keep their minds vital and the whole package, especially with the Professor on the island being a fit, attractive guy to begin with, could add up to him being the one (though quiet and shy in youth) to have that "zip" out of everyone when he's older. "What do you think?

Yes, why did they leave poor Gillgan outside?

I agree, the tree moment was scary--the image spoke for itself.

06-08-2010, 11:51 AM	#1
lm Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 29, 2006 Location: New York Posts: 469	NOW FEATURING...MEET THE METEOR This used to be one of my son's favorite episodes but it wasn't that high up on my list, despite the "old" castaways. I like the way they tried to keep the existing age differences there even among the old castaways, although the Skipper looks older than Mr. Howell, like someone from the Bible! Why doesn't Gilligan want to dance at the party; in other episodes he sometimes seeks a dance? Hey, MAGs: how do you explain Gilligan's seeming total non-resistance to Ginger's kiss--although doesn't it look as if it doesn't even affect him? Is he, also, kissing her? Watch the scene. I love the Frankenstein's Monster scene. I lovethe joke about the Christmas presents being hidden ("Oh boy!")

06-11-2010, 03:19 AM	#4
Steve Carras Sandra Bullock RULES! Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 30, 2002 Location: Riverside County, CA Posts: 807	Wait! Wait! Wait! There's something FUNNY going on back there. Yes, there was, and also somewhagt nail biting with the various "sudden danger" parts like the aging and the creepy "Martin Denny/Les Baxter" custom-stock music for the show. This was the last episode from the second season and has some great funny stuff from The professor saying from offscreen: "Get away from there-fast!" in the beginning with Gilligan mistaking it naturally [though a bit clueless eve for him] for a talking meteor [yeah, ha ha] while the Skipper sets him straight as always, as well as the comments from Gillgan regarding the meteor's aging properties [while him, the Professor & the Skipper are in protective coating] "Even we feel older-since we've been talking", then "but why'd you have to tell me-why why", then a treat for those who want to see the skipper get his for always swatting Gilligan's head with a cap. This is a rather eerie & spooky episode in the discovery of the tree that Gilligan tripped on suddenly after the scene flip-segue now aging [as in the above scene.] The scenes with Gilligan and Mary-Ann [she asks him about how many Mary-Anns did he know] outside the hut and also the attempt by Gilligan to 1) enter said hut but 2) NOT disturb the Skipper & Professor rigvht after as a running gag are fun. And yes, callensensi, Russell Johnson's professor just as in the episode several titles before it "V for Vitamins" [and it's V FOR Vitamins, again, NOT V IS for Vitamins going by everything I've read in references in books and online sites] Gilligan dreams that the Prof.is a dirty old man, and Gilligan's the only one to dream that. "Mary-Ann...--we ARE all the girls".
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02-07-2011, 03:08 PM	#5
lm Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 29, 2006 Location: New York Posts: 469	Good points, everyone! Good ideas regarding Ginger's birthday--its being close to Christmas being the reason. It also might be that Ginger is not the "diva" that everyone thinks and there is some humility here in her not automatically assuming that everyone remembered her birthday. I can tell you that I have friends who have been friends with me for years who STILL never know when my birthday is! Yeah, this Gilligan/Ginger kiss thing is getting more complicated as we talk about it and, yes, GREAT fanfiction material--someone should do it! The prompting idea would be an interesting thing to look at. He certainly doesn't look uncomfortable in any of these scenes. But, what do you think about his REACTION to the kisses once he gets them--ok--"It's A Bird..." is obvious, he's transported by the kiss--but is he even reacting in "Vitamins" or here in "Meteor?" Is this some kind of reaction or is it just another version of the pole but here the oddity is being non-affected. So, is he affected or not and, if so, what do the MAGs say about this??? Regarding the dirty old man professor--this is Gilligan's dream. Also, the Professor is generally healthy and knowledgable about health. One thing about Professor types is that they are in the kind of job that does not necessarily become affected by ageism. They are still viewed as vital and having something to contribute--even moreso with age. They are known to keep their minds vital and the whole package, especially with the Professor on the island being a fit, attractive guy to begin with, could add up to him being the one (though quiet and shy in youth) to have that "zip" out of everyone when he's older. "What do you think? Yes, why did they leave poor Gillgan outside? I agree, the tree moment was scary--the image spoke for itself.