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Old 05-09-2010, 07:59 AM   #1
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Default a Fistful Of Reasons - 11/13/70

At the start of the episode the yellow lion ornament is on the tv in the family room. A scene or two later, probably after the set dressers removed the tv for a scene set around the table in the family room, it has been placed on the flip open back rests on the sofa bed.

The safety guard that was on the Peters bed at the start of the first season can be seen laying behind the foot of the bed in this episode and most episodes from about the middle of the first season onwards.

Tiger is mentioned by Alice as she gives his dinner to Petes face!

Both Mike and Carol seem to know where the Hintons live without having to ask anyone. Perhaps they live on the same street.

The Hintons garden is the Brady garden re-dressed.

The stereo that Alice will win in a few episodes time is present in the family room. It is likely that this episode was shot afterwards but swapped about as part of the original running order.
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At the start of the episode the yellow lion ornament is on the tv in the family room. A scene or two later, probably after the set dressers removed the tv for a scene set around the table in the family room, it has been placed on the flip open back rests on the sofa bed.

The safety guard that was on the Peters bed at the start of the first season can be seen laying behind the foot of the bed in this episode and most episodes from about the middle of the first season onwards.

Tiger is mentioned by Alice as she gives his dinner to Petes face!

Both Mike and Carol seem to know where the Hintons live without having to ask anyone. Perhaps they live on the same street.

The Hintons garden is the Brady garden re-dressed.

The stereo that Alice will win in a few episodes time is present in the family room. It is likely that this episode was shot afterwards but swapped about as part of the original running order.
Hahahaha!!! I LOVE this episode with one MAJOR flaw.I wished there could have been MORE episodes with the Hinton's because the exchanges between each set of parents is PRICELESS!!! Buddy did a great job as the bully and Peter's black eye looks REAL!

I hate the lead-in to tag sequence though. As well as the tag itself. It should have ended with Peter decking Buddy, and he says, to Cindy, "come on, let's go home." Fill in squares should have been at that point. I hated that Peter yelled at his friends for laughing at Buddy after Peter decked him. Buddy got what he deserved and than Peter defends him?!!! B.S!!!

And no way would Buddy come to the house to "borrow Cindy's toungue-twister book." A true bully would be humiliated. The ending is way, "Too nice." You had a great episode with some good biting-edge realistic conflict. As most know, Robert Reed fought hard to keep realism in the show, often times viciously opposing Loyd and Sherwood Schwartz who wanted more comody in it. I wonder if "Fistfull of Reason's" Peter yelling at the kids after he decks Buddy and the tag scene were insisted by the Schwartz's. It sounds like something they would want over Reed's objections to end the episode after Peter gets "revenge."

Sometimes I don't even watch "A Fistful of Reasons' tag, because I think it sucks compared to how great the rest of the episode is!

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Hahahaha!!! I LOVE this episode with one MAJOR flaw.I wished there could have been MORE episodes with the Hinton's because the exchanges between each set of parents is PRICELESS!!! Buddy did a great job as the bully and Peter's black eye looks REAL!

I hate the lead-in to tag sequence though. As well as the tag itself. It should have ended with Peter decking Buddy, and he says, to Cindy, "come on, let's go home." Fill in squares should have been at that point. I hated that Peter yelled at his friends for laughing at Buddy after Peter decked him. Buddy got what he deserved and than Peter defends him?!!! B.S!!!

And no way would Buddy come to the house to "borrow Cindy's toungue-twister book." A true bully would be humiliated. The ending is way, "Too nice." You had a great episode with some good biting-edge realistic conflict. As most know, Robert Reed fought hard to keep realism in the show, often times viciously opposing Loyd and Sherwood Schwartz who wanted more comody in it. I wonder if "Fistfull of Reason's" Peter yelling at the kids after he decks Buddy and the tag scene were insisted by the Schwartz's. It sounds like something they would want over Reed's objections to end the episode after Peter gets "revenge."

Sometimes I don't even watch "A Fistful of Reasons' tag, because I think it sucks compared to how great the rest of the episode is!

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Although I think that you have raised some very interesting points, I do not fully agree with your school of thought. I think what the end of the episode was trying to point out was that two wrongs never made a right. I do not think that it was too unrealistic for Peter to have that attitude. On top of this, after Peter had struck revenge of the bully, he wanted to be able to win gracefully and let Buddy lose with dignity. I do not see anything especially wrong with that either.
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Yeah Peter knew that Buddy now felt the way Cindy did and by laughing the other kids were now effectively bullying Buddy. He deserve to feel humiliated though.

Mrs Hinton was very funny to watch and listen too. Perhaps if Alice had been cast as the straight woman Carol would have been a character similar to Mrs Hinton...
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Buddy Hinton deserved a tast of his own medicine after teasing Cindy and making her cry. "Baby talk. Baby talk. It's a wonder you can walk."
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I love the ending of this episode. It shows that Peter has learned a lesson through everything that happened and is now a better person for it. If in fact the episode had ended right after Peter decked Buddy as some have suggested it would make it seem that Peter had sunk to Buddy's level. And that would not be an acceptable ending for the Brady's or for the audience. And the tag shows that Peter being the bigger person has even rubbed off on Buddy and caused him to change his ways. And I wouldn't doubt if Robert Reed had something to do with that ending!
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In this season's last episode "Tell It Like It Is" Peter actually reveals that he had been in another fight with Buddy Hinton, thus coming home with another black eye as the editors were at the house to examine Carol's family for that magazine article.

Getting back to "Fistful of Reasons", the thing that stuck out to me the most was how Buddy's father just brushed off his son's actions and Buddy's mother won't address the situation, saying that she always does what her husband tells her. I would have felt the same way as Mike and Carol.
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Getting back to "Fistful of Reasons", the thing that stuck out to me the most was how Buddy's father just brushed off his son's actions and Buddy's mother won't address the situation, saying that she always does what her husband tells her. I would have felt the same way as Mike and Carol.
Maybe she has had a few black eyes of her own!
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It wasn't totally realistic that Buddy would go to the Brady's to apolgize... certainly neither of his parents were the type to make him do that.

But instead of asking for Cindy's tongue-twister book, why didn't Buddy just go online and google "tounge-twisters" and... oh, wait... I think I know... never mind...

I do agree that Peter could have felt bad about Buddy's humiliation... not only was Buddy humiliated by getting knocked down by a much smaller boy in Peter, but he ended up with a lisp from his looth tooth. After Cindy went through so much teasing from Buddy, Pete knew how bad and rude it was. And Pete's a good kid, not the type to revel in someone else's suffering (at least at that point of his life).
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In this season's last episode "Tell It Like It Is" Peter actually reveals that he had been in another fight with Buddy Hinton, thus coming home with another black eye as the editors were at the house to examine Carol's family for that magazine article.

Getting back to "Fistful of Reasons", the thing that stuck out to me the most was how Buddy's father just brushed off his son's actions and Buddy's mother won't address the situation, saying that she always does what her husband tells her. I would have felt the same way as Mike and Carol.
I remember seeing this episode in syndication sometime when I was a kid but not remembering how the plot went. At the time, just after Mike & Ralph Hinton started arguing, I expected a scene flip to Mike w/ a black eye! We know the adults were a bit more reasonable than that though.
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I remember that. That makes "Tell It Like It Is" one of my least favorite episodes. To me it didn't make sense that Buddy became Peter's enemy again giving the ending of "A Fistful of Reasons." I thought Buddy had learned his lesson for good after Peter decked him.
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