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pardilia · 03-21-2010, 11:03 AM

http://hamptonroads.com/2010/03/fata...0yearold-crime

According to the article, Jeffrey MacDonald and his lawyers will get an hour on Thursday to prove that he deserves a new trial.

VikingsGal · 03-21-2010, 11:38 AM

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"All he wants to do is get a barbecue and have friends over and make shrimp and beef kabobs on the grill, watch football on TV and feel grass under his feet," she said.

Really? How about visiting the graves of your late wife and kids?

Wamisto · 03-21-2010, 12:11 PM

Ok, time for MegtheEgg86 to post an eye-roll emoticon, as the debate will resume, and the old arguments stated and rehashed until we have come full circle two or three times.

Apostapler · 03-21-2010, 12:29 PM

Well, this is something. I can't wait to see how his lawyers work this.

pardilia · 03-21-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VikingsGal

Really? How about visiting the graves of your late wife and kids?

It's a quote from someone other than himself, so who knows. I doubt his new wife really wants to think about his previous wife and kids as is the usual case regardless of what happened to them. She's probably only thinking about how she wants to spend time with him, not necessarily what he wants to do.

I'm not trying to defend the man, as I could go either way with the case, tbh. I just wouldn't necessarily judge his wants by what his wife says.

VikingsGal · 03-21-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by idyla

It's a quote from someone other than himself, so who knows. I doubt his new wife really wants to think about his previous wife and kids as is the usual case regardless of what happened to them. She's probably only thinking about how she wants to spend time with him, not necessarily what he wants to do.

I'm not trying to defend the man, as I could go either way with the case, tbh. I just wouldn't necessarily judge his wants by what his wife says.

So very true. Maybe she is projecting the life she wants. She could be a very nice, although a bit deluded (IMO) woman!

Apostapler · 03-22-2010, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by VikingsGal

So very true. Maybe she is projecting the life she wants. She could be a very nice, although a bit deluded (IMO) woman!

I am of the opinion that anyone who marries a convicted felon serving life is deluded.

kadrmas15 · 03-22-2010, 05:24 AM

Whoa, whoa folks lets just take it easy here. Okay, I see the usual suspects are out in ripping on Dr. MacDonald, nothing new there. However I see that even you guys managed to twist things out of context. I am sure Dr. MacDonald will visit the graves of his wife and daughters when he is released as I am confident he will be sooner or later.

It will not be easy for him to get that though from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, the most conservative federal appeals court in the country. However I hope and pray he does get relief as he is innocent. You all might not like his conduct during his marriage or how he acted afterwards but there is NOTHING and I repeat NOTHING that points to or even implies guilt in this case except pure conjecture.

As for Dr. MacDonald's wife, I see the usual suspects are also out in throwing bricks. She is a grown woman and it was her decision to marry Dr. MacDonald. Regardless if you disagree with that it does not make her mentally ill or a basket case. She had known Dr. MacDonald for roughly 20 years at the time at she married him. It was not like she was writing prisoners seeking companionship because she was lonely.

I don't blame Dr. MacDonald for wanting to throw a barbeque when he gets out. If he invites me, I will show up. I will assume he will not stab me to death and try to blame a bunch of crazed hippies for doing it. Seriously though, if I served 30 years in prison as an innocent man, I would certainly celebrate after getting out. I see nothing that is wrong with that but maybe someone can explain this to me.

As for the prosecution, they suck! Totally. James Blackburn has since been disgraced. He has been disbarred because he stole money from his own clients. You can get away with about anything as a lawyer EXCEPT for stealing money from your clients. THat is the one they will not let you get away with. He has been disbarred, he is a convicted felon just like MacDonald and Blackburn also served time in federal prison. Blackburn now lives in a run down apartment and waits tables for a living as he deserves to for being unethical and putting innocent people in prisons.

kadrmas15 · 03-22-2010, 05:26 AM

I wonder if any woman that marries James Blackburn is also 'deluded'? Let's stop and think about that one for a while. Also, I agree with the earlier poster. I get you all hate Dr. MacDonald and think he is guilty and want to look for any excuse you can to nourish that belief. However that said, do not judge what Dr. MacDonald wants or does not want based on what his wife says. Dr. MacDonald was not asked, his wife was.

Thinman · 03-22-2010, 08:54 AM

Good luck, Mac! You'll need it. Also, if you get out, you might want to change your name and move far, far away. Bob Stevenson will be looking for you.

Apostapler · 03-22-2010, 10:05 AM

Actually, I have doubts both ways. I don't know if he's guilty or innocent, and I can see evidence for both sides. I'm just going to be awfully surprised if he's able to get his appeal. If he does it will be amazing to follow.

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 03-22-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Whoa, whoa folks lets just take it easy here. Okay, I see the usual suspects are out in ripping on Dr. MacDonald, nothing new there. However I see that even you guys managed to twist things out of context. I am sure Dr. MacDonald will visit the graves of his wife and daughters when he is released as I am confident he will be sooner or later.

It will not be easy for him to get that though from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, the most conservative federal appeals court in the country. However I hope and pray he does get relief as he is innocent. You all might not like his conduct during his marriage or how he acted afterwards but there is NOTHING and I repeat NOTHING that points to or even implies guilt in this case except pure conjecture.

As for Dr. MacDonald's wife, I see the usual suspects are also out in throwing bricks. She is a grown woman and it was her decision to marry Dr. MacDonald. Regardless if you disagree with that it does not make her mentally ill or a basket case. She had known Dr. MacDonald for roughly 20 years at the time at she married him. It was not like she was writing prisoners seeking companionship because she was lonely.

I don't blame Dr. MacDonald for wanting to throw a barbeque when he gets out. If he invites me, I will show up. I will assume he will not stab me to death and try to blame a bunch of crazed hippies for doing it. Seriously though, if I served 30 years in prison as an innocent man, I would certainly celebrate after getting out. I see nothing that is wrong with that but maybe someone can explain this to me.

As for the prosecution, they suck! Totally. James Blackburn has since been disgraced. He has been disbarred because he stole money from his own clients. You can get away with about anything as a lawyer EXCEPT for stealing money from your clients. THat is the one they will not let you get away with. He has been disbarred, he is a convicted felon just like MacDonald and Blackburn also served time in federal prison. Blackburn now lives in a run down apartment and waits tables for a living as he deserves to for being unethical and putting innocent people in prisons.

Dr MacDonald..? Oh will you stop brown nosing!

I find it somewhat amuzing that you can slag off on James Blackburn but yet you don't seem too disturbed by say Michael Martin's behavour at the grocery store before he robbed the gas station, just using this as an example. Dodgy prosecution or not, Mac is where he belongs.

Mastermind · 03-22-2010, 01:09 PM

I don't think it would be the worst thing in the world if Mac was released. I mean really how much time does he have on earth left?

There have been far more dangerous criminals that have been released early and nobody has made an arguments.

Hell, look how many times John Gotti broke the rap.

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Good luck, Mac! You'll need it. Also, if you get out, you might want to change your name and move far, far away.

I would think he would do that in any regard, guilty or innocent.

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Bob Stevenson will be looking for you.

Then that would bolster MacDonald's innocence even more. It makes it seem that overzealous justice seekers were trying to keep an innocent man in jail just to have someone pay for the crime.

burbqueen · 03-22-2010, 04:50 PM

Oh dear...I was scared to come in here! But I have been back and forth with this one for years. I use to think he was guilty then I read some more about this case and the hair fibers and whatnot so now i'm not so sure.

Is there an unbiased website where I can read opinions for him being guilty and for him being innocent??? I have to see the evidence for myself. Now I don't wanna look at the crime scene photos!!! I just want someone to convince me either way.

Clockworkhigh · 03-22-2010, 05:04 PM

I've never understood the hate on MacDonald. There is clear evidence BOTH ways. On the one side we have an admission from one of the hippie suspects, we have a police officer witnessing her in the area of MacDonald's house, we have motive for why they would enter his house and we have her story parallel to his. This has always been far from a clear cut case in my opinion.

03-21-2010, 11:03 AM	#1
pardilia Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 09, 2007 Posts: 170	Jeffrey MacDonald Gets Chance For Appeal http://hamptonroads.com/2010/03/fata...0yearold-crime According to the article, Jeffrey MacDonald and his lawyers will get an hour on Thursday to prove that he deserves a new trial.

03-22-2010, 04:50 PM	#14
burbqueen Master of My Domain Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 11, 2009 Location: texas Posts: 160	Oh dear...I was scared to come in here! But I have been back and forth with this one for years. I use to think he was guilty then I read some more about this case and the hair fibers and whatnot so now i'm not so sure. Is there an unbiased website where I can read opinions for him being guilty and for him being innocent??? I have to see the evidence for myself. Now I don't wanna look at the crime scene photos!!! I just want someone to convince me either way.
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03-21-2010, 12:11 PM	#3
Wamisto Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 07, 2003 Posts: 238	Ok, time for MegtheEgg86 to post an eye-roll emoticon, as the debate will resume, and the old arguments stated and rehashed until we have come full circle two or three times.

03-21-2010, 12:29 PM	#4
Apostapler Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 06, 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 872	Well, this is something. I can't wait to see how his lawyers work this.

03-22-2010, 05:24 AM	#8
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Whoa, whoa folks lets just take it easy here. Okay, I see the usual suspects are out in ripping on Dr. MacDonald, nothing new there. However I see that even you guys managed to twist things out of context. I am sure Dr. MacDonald will visit the graves of his wife and daughters when he is released as I am confident he will be sooner or later. It will not be easy for him to get that though from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, the most conservative federal appeals court in the country. However I hope and pray he does get relief as he is innocent. You all might not like his conduct during his marriage or how he acted afterwards but there is NOTHING and I repeat NOTHING that points to or even implies guilt in this case except pure conjecture. As for Dr. MacDonald's wife, I see the usual suspects are also out in throwing bricks. She is a grown woman and it was her decision to marry Dr. MacDonald. Regardless if you disagree with that it does not make her mentally ill or a basket case. She had known Dr. MacDonald for roughly 20 years at the time at she married him. It was not like she was writing prisoners seeking companionship because she was lonely. I don't blame Dr. MacDonald for wanting to throw a barbeque when he gets out. If he invites me, I will show up. I will assume he will not stab me to death and try to blame a bunch of crazed hippies for doing it. Seriously though, if I served 30 years in prison as an innocent man, I would certainly celebrate after getting out. I see nothing that is wrong with that but maybe someone can explain this to me. As for the prosecution, they suck! Totally. James Blackburn has since been disgraced. He has been disbarred because he stole money from his own clients. You can get away with about anything as a lawyer EXCEPT for stealing money from your clients. THat is the one they will not let you get away with. He has been disbarred, he is a convicted felon just like MacDonald and Blackburn also served time in federal prison. Blackburn now lives in a run down apartment and waits tables for a living as he deserves to for being unethical and putting innocent people in prisons.

03-22-2010, 05:26 AM	#9
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	I wonder if any woman that marries James Blackburn is also 'deluded'? Let's stop and think about that one for a while. Also, I agree with the earlier poster. I get you all hate Dr. MacDonald and think he is guilty and want to look for any excuse you can to nourish that belief. However that said, do not judge what Dr. MacDonald wants or does not want based on what his wife says. Dr. MacDonald was not asked, his wife was.

03-22-2010, 08:54 AM	#10
Thinman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 08, 2005 Posts: 182	Good luck, Mac! You'll need it. Also, if you get out, you might want to change your name and move far, far away. Bob Stevenson will be looking for you.

03-22-2010, 10:05 AM	#11
Apostapler Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 06, 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 872	Actually, I have doubts both ways. I don't know if he's guilty or innocent, and I can see evidence for both sides. I'm just going to be awfully surprised if he's able to get his appeal. If he does it will be amazing to follow.

03-22-2010, 05:04 PM	#15
Clockworkhigh Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 29, 2009 Posts: 604	I've never understood the hate on MacDonald. There is clear evidence BOTH ways. On the one side we have an admission from one of the hippie suspects, we have a police officer witnessing her in the area of MacDonald's house, we have motive for why they would enter his house and we have her story parallel to his. This has always been far from a clear cut case in my opinion.