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Family Ties Forever! · 02-26-2010, 01:40 AM

Do you think at any point during the series that the writers should have put Murray and Mary together romantically? Just curious.

Pretend Murray wasn't married to Marie.

Marvo301 · 02-26-2010, 01:48 AM

I voted no. First of all Murry is married (to Marie) and I just don't think Mary would ever come between Murry and Marie. Secondly Mary and Murry are very good friends and nothing ruins a friendship more than an office relationship gone bad. And since Murry is married and would ultimately be loyal to his wife any romance between him and Mary would end badly. On a night time soap this kind of story line could work but since TMTMS is a sitcom it wouldn't work here.

Family Ties Forever! · 02-26-2010, 02:28 AM

Sorry, I forgot he was married.

Just for fun, if Murray wasn't married would you still say no?

Marvo301 · 02-26-2010, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Family Ties Forever!

Sorry, I forgot he was married.

Just for fun, if Murray wasn't married would you still say no?

Actually if Murry wasn't married I think he and Mary would make a nice couple.

MTM fan - Holly · 02-26-2010, 03:03 AM

No!
Mary was too cute and sophisticated for Murray. I think Murray was SO interested in Mary because she was out of his league!

catlover79 · 02-26-2010, 01:38 PM

If Marie wasn't in the picture - then absolutely!!

scotsguy · 02-26-2010, 03:19 PM

I think Marie was so cute,what was Murray thinking of!

catlover79 · 02-26-2010, 03:51 PM

I think Murray was drawn to Mary in part because of her sophistication. Marie was cute, but she wasn't sophisticated.

SpunkiiMonkii7078 · 02-26-2010, 07:32 PM

If Marie wasn't in the picture, yes!

Retro4Life · 02-26-2010, 10:16 PM

Mary and Murray were both intelligent, kind, hardworking and independent people. I think they would have made a great couple (assuming no Marie).

It's funny. Though obviously their relationship was taboo, Murray seems a better fit than any of the legitimate beaus that Mary went through during the course of the show. And I LOVE the fact that the show resisted the temptation to "marry off" Mary in the final episode. For so many shows that's the implied "ultimate resolution" for a single woman, and I find that kind of insulting.

LittleRickyII · 02-26-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Retro4Life

And I LOVE the fact that the show resisted the temptation to "marry off" Mary in the final episode. For so many shows that's the implied "ultimate resolution" for a single woman, and I find that kind of insulting.

There was a lot of speculation about what was going to happen in the final episode of TMTMS. Unfortunately, I'm old enough to remember! But they kept it totally under wraps what was going to happen on that last episode. The biggest speculation at the time was the Mary and Lou were going to get married. It came as a complete surprise when we saw everyone in the newsroom get fired, except Ted.

catlover79 · 02-26-2010, 11:46 PM

I never saw Mary and Lou as anything more than friends - I never saw the sparks that some other people obviously did. In fact, Lou once said that he thought of Mary as a daughter. That's how I saw their relationship - a father figure/mentor thing.

scotsguy · 02-27-2010, 06:34 AM

I guess I can understand Murray's crush on Mary.
The episode I find hard to watch is "I Love A Piano", when Murray nearly has an affair.
MTM is always realistic but I find that episode really hard to watch,I know Murray didn't got through with it but its one of my least favourite MTM episodes.

catlover79 · 02-27-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scotsguy

I guess I can understand Murray's crush on Mary.
The episode I find hard to watch is "I Love A Piano", when Murray nearly has an affair.
MTM is always realistic but I find that episode really hard to watch,I know Murray didn't got through with it but its one of my least favourite MTM episodes.

I didn't really care for that ep myself. The woman that Murray is tempted by was played by Barbara Barrie, who went on to become Mrs. Barney Miller!

ClassicTVGal · 02-27-2010, 01:14 PM

I know I've probably said this before...

But yes, I've always been glad that Mary didn't get married or engaged in the series. I don't think I can explain why, I just liked the idea of her being "not-permenately" attached to someone in the series, or at the end. And yes, that is different than a lot of other shows.

But I know they also had thought of Ted Bessell as a possible canidate too.

As far as Lou and Mary goes... I always loved them as a father/daughter relationship ONLY. But that's just my opinion.

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02-26-2010, 01:40 AM	#1
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02-26-2010, 01:48 AM	#2
Marvo301 I'm NOT a Blockhead! Forum Celebrity Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 21,456	I voted no. First of all Murry is married (to Marie) and I just don't think Mary would ever come between Murry and Marie. Secondly Mary and Murry are very good friends and nothing ruins a friendship more than an office relationship gone bad. And since Murry is married and would ultimately be loyal to his wife any romance between him and Mary would end badly. On a night time soap this kind of story line could work but since TMTMS is a sitcom it wouldn't work here.
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02-26-2010, 02:28 AM	#3
Family Ties Forever! Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 16, 2002 Location: Keaton residence Posts: 10,214	Sorry, I forgot he was married. Just for fun, if Murray wasn't married would you still say no?

02-26-2010, 03:03 AM	#5
MTM fan - Holly Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 11, 2007 Posts: 107	No! Mary was too cute and sophisticated for Murray. I think Murray was SO interested in Mary because she was out of his league!

02-26-2010, 03:19 PM	#7
scotsguy Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 25, 2002 Location: Edinburgh,Scotland Posts: 696	I think Marie was so cute,what was Murray thinking of!

02-26-2010, 03:51 PM	#8
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,382	I think Murray was drawn to Mary in part because of her sophistication. Marie was cute, but she wasn't sophisticated.

02-26-2010, 10:16 PM	#10
Retro4Life Accept No Substitutes Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 04, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 6,708	Mary and Murray were both intelligent, kind, hardworking and independent people. I think they would have made a great couple (assuming no Marie). It's funny. Though obviously their relationship was taboo, Murray seems a better fit than any of the legitimate beaus that Mary went through during the course of the show. And I LOVE the fact that the show resisted the temptation to "marry off" Mary in the final episode. For so many shows that's the implied "ultimate resolution" for a single woman, and I find that kind of insulting.
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02-26-2010, 11:46 PM	#12
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,382	I never saw Mary and Lou as anything more than friends - I never saw the sparks that some other people obviously did. In fact, Lou once said that he thought of Mary as a daughter. That's how I saw their relationship - a father figure/mentor thing.

02-27-2010, 06:34 AM	#13
scotsguy Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 25, 2002 Location: Edinburgh,Scotland Posts: 696	I guess I can understand Murray's crush on Mary. The episode I find hard to watch is "I Love A Piano", when Murray nearly has an affair. MTM is always realistic but I find that episode really hard to watch,I know Murray didn't got through with it but its one of my least favourite MTM episodes.

02-27-2010, 01:14 PM	#15
ClassicTVGal Traveler Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 26, 2004 Posts: 3,457	I know I've probably said this before... But yes, I've always been glad that Mary didn't get married or engaged in the series. I don't think I can explain why, I just liked the idea of her being "not-permenately" attached to someone in the series, or at the end. And yes, that is different than a lot of other shows. But I know they also had thought of Ted Bessell as a possible canidate too. As far as Lou and Mary goes... I always loved them as a father/daughter relationship ONLY. But that's just my opinion.