Are Shows Like the Muppet Show, Fraggle Rock, ALF, etc...Outdated Due to CGI? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Brian Damage · 02-20-2010, 08:12 PM

Do you think the Muppets can stand the test of time or is their day over now that you can create Anything, via CGI?

catlover79 · 02-20-2010, 08:14 PM

I don't think so! CGI is WAY overrated in my book.

Marvo301 · 02-20-2010, 08:18 PM

I'll take Muppets and puppets over CGI any day of the week!

Brian Damage · 02-20-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

I don't think so! CGI is WAY overrated in my book.

I tend to agree with you personally, but will a younger generation sit and enjoy muppets or find then ancient?

catlover79 · 02-20-2010, 08:22 PM

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I tend to agree with you personally, but will a younger generation sit and enjoy muppets or find then ancient?

I can't vouch for all young kids, but my 3 1/2 year old nephew LOVES the Muppets. His favorite is Gonzo.

Marvo301 · 02-20-2010, 08:30 PM

Ironically I think GGI reduces creativity. It's to easy for film makers to rely on technology. I really enjoy classic movies. And I never cease to be amazed at the creativity and genius of film makers of the 30's, 40's and 50's who created special effects without any computers or technology. That creativity is lost when film makers can just create something on a computer screen and add it in to the movie in post production.

JamesG · 02-20-2010, 08:42 PM

I think CGI is becoming more and more common because it is cheaper and takes less time.

You don't have to pay a crew and puppeteers to constantly control the muppet/s for every episode.

Any person with the computer knowledge to do so can do CGI effects.

I think one of the most recent shows to use a muppet was Nickelodeon's Cousin Skeeter that ended in 2003.

PrettyinPink55 · 02-21-2010, 03:20 AM

The Muppets are classic!!! I don't think that any amount of technology could ever replace what it was/is, which is great television!!!

70s show watcher · 02-21-2010, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyinPink55

The Muppets are classic!!! I don't think that any amount of technology could ever replace what it was/is, which is great television!!!

i agree 100 percent people like jim henson are irreplaceable

Torgo · 02-21-2010, 12:52 PM

For me, the "Wow" factor is gone from modern movies. When I watched pre-CGI movies and saw a special effect I can remember thinking or saying "Wow! How did they do that?" Now, there's no mystery, you know it's CGI.

Heck, I'm still amazed by the special effects in Abbott and Costello Meets The Invisible Man, or the effects in Land of the Giants

Torgo · 02-21-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

I can't vouch for all young kids, but my 3 1/2 year old nephew LOVES the Muppets. His favorite is Gonzo.

My daughter's 11 and loves The Muppet Show, and The Muppet Movies, and Labyrinth, and The Dark Crystal, etc...and even watches and enjoys the old Ray Harryhausen movies with me.

catlover79 · 02-21-2010, 04:02 PM

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My daughter's 11 and loves The Muppet Show, and The Muppet Movies, and Labyrinth, and The Dark Crystal, etc...and even watches and enjoys the old Ray Harryhausen movies with me.

You're bringing her up right!!

catlover79 · 02-21-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyinPink55

The Muppets are classic!!! I don't think that any amount of technology could ever replace what it was/is, which is great television!!!

BINGO!!

Torgo · 02-21-2010, 04:26 PM

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You're bringing her up right!!

I'm trying to introduce her to every movie and TV show I loved as a kid.

Retro4Life · 02-21-2010, 06:04 PM

CGI negates the human element of special effects. It's neat to think that someone had to come up with ideas on how to visually convey fantastic elements on screen utilizing every day objects and simply artistry. As Marv said, it's just so easy to program stuff into a computer now. I'm not saying it never works, but I do say that it will never replace the power and charm of creating things with human hands and minds.

I don't know if future generations will agree. I truly hope so, though.

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Torgo Omaha & Fritz Forum Star Join Date: Mar 06, 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 19,017	For me, the "Wow" factor is gone from modern movies. When I watched pre-CGI movies and saw a special effect I can remember thinking or saying "Wow! How did they do that?" Now, there's no mystery, you know it's CGI. Heck, I'm still amazed by the special effects in Abbott and Costello Meets The Invisible Man, or the effects in Land of the Giants
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Marvo301 I'm NOT a Blockhead! Forum Celebrity Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 21,452	Ironically I think GGI reduces creativity. It's to easy for film makers to rely on technology. I really enjoy classic movies. And I never cease to be amazed at the creativity and genius of film makers of the 30's, 40's and 50's who created special effects without any computers or technology. That creativity is lost when film makers can just create something on a computer screen and add it in to the movie in post production.

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JamesG Freakshow Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 01, 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 57,011	I think CGI is becoming more and more common because it is cheaper and takes less time. You don't have to pay a crew and puppeteers to constantly control the muppet/s for every episode. Any person with the computer knowledge to do so can do CGI effects. I think one of the most recent shows to use a muppet was Nickelodeon's Cousin Skeeter that ended in 2003.

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Retro4Life Accept No Substitutes Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 04, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 6,708	CGI negates the human element of special effects. It's neat to think that someone had to come up with ideas on how to visually convey fantastic elements on screen utilizing every day objects and simply artistry. As Marv said, it's just so easy to program stuff into a computer now. I'm not saying it never works, but I do say that it will never replace the power and charm of creating things with human hands and minds. I don't know if future generations will agree. I truly hope so, though.
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