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BadRapter · 02-16-2010, 02:06 AM

Hey guys,

I have always been wondering something and that is why is there so much hate for Miller-Boyett sitcoms?

Lorimar Television · 02-16-2010, 02:14 AM

I don't notice much hate. There seem to be alot of fans if you ask me.

Schmoopie · 02-16-2010, 06:13 AM

I had to do some Googling to find the shows, but most of those listed (Full House, Happy Days, etc) are pretty popular. Full House would be my favorite on that list, but I've never read about any hatred toward the other ones listed, like Bosom Buddies, Perfect Strangers, Mork and Mindy, etc.

PrettyinPink55 · 02-16-2010, 06:55 AM

Do you mean by fans or critics?

BadRapter · 02-16-2010, 11:02 AM

I meant to say critics.

oz615 · 02-16-2010, 04:38 PM

My theory is that most of the hate has something to do Just the Ten of Us getting canceled in 1990

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_th...s#Cancellation

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ABC Network politics, not ratings issues, cancelled Just the Ten Of Us in the spring of 1990. Since the network was moving forward to prominently market their family-friendly Friday night sitcom lineup with the new TGIF moniker that fall, the brass decided that all four comedies were to be produced by Miller-Boyett Productions. At the end of the 1989-90 season, three of the Friday stablemates were produced by that company: Full House, Family Matters, and Perfect Strangers. (Another non-Miller-Boyett show, Mr. Belvedere, had already been off the schedule for months, and had aired its final episodes on Saturday nights that summer.) Warner Bros. Television and producers Guntzelman/Marshall entered a battle over their show's fate, and the show's runners had a solid case: the series consistently won its time slot, provided an excellent lead-in to newsmagazine 20/20, and had a great fan base that carried over from Growing Pains viewership. When it came down to the network upfronts, it was ultimately decided that there would be no other suitable time slot for Just the Ten Of Us, and they had already committed to a new Miller-Boyett sitcom to join its existing three in the TGIF lineup: Going Places.

The series was not picked up for another season, with no other network as a prospect for giving it a new home. Just the Ten Of Us left the network during summer reruns in late July 1990. Although ABC saw even greater success with its TGIF lineup in the 1990-91 season, the new series, Going Places, only lasted a single season before getting the Nielsen "axe". In the wake of this action, the Head of Entertainment at ABC filed a press statement nearly one year after the abrupt cancellation of Just the Ten of Us, in which he stated that the network brass "moved too quickly" in cancelling the show.

factsoflife · 02-16-2010, 09:04 PM

If we are talking about critics, i think the "hate" comes from the fact that many critics see these types of shows as heavily formulaic and rather unoriginal. I think also the fact these shows tend to be slightly sappy and at times preachy tended to rub some people the wrong way. Overall i think most critics see them for what they are mid-level shows aimed at a mass audience, not shows aiming to push the envelope or explore anything all that new. So i think critics tend to dismiss them as meritless and focus their attention on more envelope pushing fare.

Heidi Dawn · 02-17-2010, 03:33 PM

Actually, it was Thomas Miller, Edward Milkis, and Garry Marshall who were the producers of 'Happy Days', 'Laverne & Shirley', 'Mork & Mindy'.

The only Miller/Boyett sitcoms of the late 1980's/early 1990's that I liked were 'Full House' and 'The Hogan Family'. I didn't care for the rest of them.

BadRapter · 02-18-2010, 01:10 PM

Off topic a bit, did any of you guys know that Thomas Miller co-created Nanny and the Professor?

comedyfreak · 02-19-2010, 08:29 AM

I loved Just the Ten Of Us and was upset when it got cancelled.

PrettyinPink55 · 02-20-2010, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by factsoflife

If we are talking about critics, i think the "hate" comes from the fact that many critics see these types of shows as heavily formulaic and rather unoriginal. I think also the fact these shows tend to be slightly sappy and at times preachy tended to rub some people the wrong way. Overall i think most critics see them for what they are mid-level shows aimed at a mass audience, not shows aiming to push the envelope or explore anything all that new. So i think critics tend to dismiss them as meritless and focus their attention on more envelope pushing fare.

I think you're exactly right!!!

BadRapter · 02-27-2010, 12:53 PM

I was wondering why is are Miller-Milkis shows often labled under the Miller-Boyett banner?

I was also wondering since Thomas L. Miller co-created Nanny and the Professor, and I read somewhere he also co-created Love, American Style and Me and the Chimp, I was just wondering if there are any other shows that Thomas L. Miller might have also co-created in the late sixties and early seventies?

02-16-2010, 02:06 AM	#1
BadRapter Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 31	Miller-Boyett Question Hey guys, I have always been wondering something and that is why is there so much hate for Miller-Boyett sitcoms?

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factsoflife Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 11, 2000 Posts: 8,747	If we are talking about critics, i think the "hate" comes from the fact that many critics see these types of shows as heavily formulaic and rather unoriginal. I think also the fact these shows tend to be slightly sappy and at times preachy tended to rub some people the wrong way. Overall i think most critics see them for what they are mid-level shows aimed at a mass audience, not shows aiming to push the envelope or explore anything all that new. So i think critics tend to dismiss them as meritless and focus their attention on more envelope pushing fare.
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02-16-2010, 11:02 AM	#5
BadRapter Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 31	I meant to say critics.

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Heidi Dawn Muppets Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 01, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 883	Actually, it was Thomas Miller, Edward Milkis, and Garry Marshall who were the producers of 'Happy Days', 'Laverne & Shirley', 'Mork & Mindy'. The only Miller/Boyett sitcoms of the late 1980's/early 1990's that I liked were 'Full House' and 'The Hogan Family'. I didn't care for the rest of them.
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02-18-2010, 01:10 PM	#9
BadRapter Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 31	Off topic a bit, did any of you guys know that Thomas Miller co-created Nanny and the Professor?

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02-27-2010, 12:53 PM	#12
BadRapter Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 31	I was wondering why is are Miller-Milkis shows often labled under the Miller-Boyett banner? I was also wondering since Thomas L. Miller co-created Nanny and the Professor, and I read somewhere he also co-created Love, American Style and Me and the Chimp, I was just wondering if there are any other shows that Thomas L. Miller might have also co-created in the late sixties and early seventies?