Rare segments?

[unidentified]

I probably haven't been around enough to know, but when I see people talking about and posts mentioning "rare segments" I'm wondering exactly what some of these are (ie. Case names or who they involve)

So maybe a few people could enlighten me, which cases exactly are considered to be "rare segments"?

Are there those which were once considered "rare segments" but now are no longer are?

Thanks for the heads up

[xxxxmattxxxx69]

I've never seen Donald Webb profiled on UM(Stack or Farina) on TV. I've seen his clip on youtube. Brad Bishop I've seen once but they show the clip from 1989. Joe Maloney I've never seen his segment from the 80s(only the youtube clip). All 3 of them have been on the run over 25 years and are in doubt whether they are still alive.

[bell83]

Originally Posted by unidentified

I probably haven't been around enough to know, but when I see people talking about and posts mentioning "rare segments" I'm wondering exactly what some of these are (ie. Case names or who they involve)

So maybe a few people could enlighten me, which cases exactly are considered to be "rare segments"?

Are there those which were once considered "rare segments" but now are no longer are?

Thanks for the heads up

I'm not active in trading, but I believe it's ones that were shown once, and the only copies are those that people had videotaped from the original airing. There are also others that were changed when reran or shown on Lifetime.

[marlins3]

When you mention rare segments, one name comes to mind: Ed Barbara.

[unidentified]

I've never seen Donald Webb profiled on UM (Stack or Farina) on TV

You mean Donald "Eugene" Webb? I thought I had seen this "mystery" screened a few times over the years. Didn't realise there was anything rare about this...

I believe it's ones that were shown once, and the only copies are those that people had videotaped from the original airing. There are also others that were changed when reran or shown on Lifetime.

By changed, how do you mean? Were they edited or shortened or for what reason changed? When I say changed, I'm only referring to Stack episodes here and probably pre-2000, ignoring any Farina related eps.

[bell83]

Originally Posted by unidentified

By changed, how do you mean? Were they edited or shortened or for what reason changed? When I say changed, I'm only referring to Stack episodes here and probably pre-2000, ignoring any Farina related eps.

Sometimes they were shortened, other times, things were added. One case comes to mind, and that's the murder of Jasper Watkins. They showed an actual picture of his face from his autopsy in one version, and the other had only a police sketch. I'm only referring to Robert Stack episodes.

[justins5256]

Originally Posted by unidentified

I probably haven't been around enough to know, but when I see people talking about and posts mentioning "rare segments" I'm wondering exactly what some of these are (ie. Case names or who they involve)

So maybe a few people could enlighten me, which cases exactly are considered to be "rare segments"?

Are there those which were once considered "rare segments" but now are no longer are?

Thanks for the heads up

When UM was syndicated on Lifetime, there were a fair number of stories that were not shown on the Lifetime network. These were stories that aired once or twice when the show was on NBC, but were apparently never shown again.

Here is a pretty decent list, along with a lot of speculation about why certain stories probably didn't make it. I should point out that this is speculation. I have yet to hear a good explanation for this phenomenon that I am truly satisfied with. Perhaps there is a different reason for each story...

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...d.php?t=219882

Interestingly enough, many of the stories that weren't shown on Lifetime did make it to Spike. Of course, they were "edited" to be cool for Spike consumption.

[mozartpc27]

Joe Maloney: I had forgotten about this case. Just re-watched it. I'd love to know what the heck kind of poison it was that he was able to use on his wife: she ingests it, remains conscious and functional, if feeling a little ill, for something like 24 hours, then lapses into a coma and finally dies, all apparently without any repeat doses. This poison is colorless and odorless. The UM segment is careful not to mention what the name of the poison is.

The REAL unsolved mystery here: what is this mystery substance?

[DP1]

I remember the first time I saw the Donald Eugene Webb case on Lifetime. I don't think I saw it a ton but it was definitely on the network.

[brianh333]

Originally Posted by mozartpc27

Joe Maloney: I had forgotten about this case. Just re-watched it. I'd love to know what the heck kind of poison it was that he was able to use on his wife: she ingests it, remains conscious and functional, if feeling a little ill, for something like 24 hours, then lapses into a coma and finally dies, all apparently without any repeat doses. This poison is colorless and odorless. The UM segment is careful not to mention what the name of the poison is.

The REAL unsolved mystery here: what is this mystery substance?

This link here mentions "methyl alcohol". Not sure how accurate/reliable that is, though.

http://www.dun-laoghaire.com/michael_maloney.html

[Steve W.]

"Joe Maloney: I had forgotten about this case. Just re-watched it. I'd love to know what the heck kind of poison it was that he was able to use on his wife: she ingests it, remains conscious and functional, if feeling a little ill, for something like 24 hours, then lapses into a coma and finally dies, all apparently without any repeat doses. This poison is colorless and odorless. The UM segment is careful not to mention what the name of the poison is.

The REAL unsolved mystery here: what is this mystery substance?"

I think I saw this story on another TV show. Is Joe Maloney a red-haired guy that used to work as a radio DJ or something like that?

If I'm thinking of the right case, he would put anti-freeze in her Gatorade bottles. She liked to drink Lime Gatorade and anti-freeze is naturally green, so that's how she couldn't detect the anti-freeze.

[soilentgreen]

Originally Posted by mozartpc27

Joe Maloney: I had forgotten about this case. Just re-watched it. I'd love to know what the heck kind of poison it was that he was able to use on his wife: she ingests it, remains conscious and functional, if feeling a little ill, for something like 24 hours, then lapses into a coma and finally dies, all apparently without any repeat doses. This poison is colorless and odorless. The UM segment is careful not to mention what the name of the poison is.

The REAL unsolved mystery here: what is this mystery substance?

My guess is that it was thallium sulfate, which has all the properties you mentioned above and is soluble in water. It also could be found in older chemistry kits (and Maloney was snooping around in his friend's lab).

[coatjones]

There is a case that I haven't seen in YEARS. I don't remember the man's name, but it's the one where he grabs onto a small plane wing trying to catch a ride and ends up falling into the airport fence. Any info on this case would be appriciated.

[brianh333]

Originally Posted by coatjones

There is a case that I haven't seen in YEARS. I don't remember the man's name, but it's the one where he grabs onto a small plane wing trying to catch a ride and ends up falling into the airport fence. Any info on this case would be appriciated.

His name was Brian Stanley Duecker ("Duecker" being an uncommon name, makes for an ideal search term here on the forums). Lots of threads going on him, over the years. Here is one of the best, including a link to his "findagrave" page.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...d.php?t=257961

[coatjones]

Originally Posted by brianh333

His name was Brian Stanley Duecker ("Duecker" being an uncommon name, makes for an ideal search term here on the forums). Lots of threads going on him, over the years. Here is one of the best, including a link to his "findagrave" page.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...d.php?t=257961

Appriciate the info on that case. Might as well throw out 1 more case I haven't seen in forever: The case where a man lived in a house and took in a stranger. Somehow through years of influence, the stranger got the home owner to obey him through religious threat. The man ended up living in the basement and dying down there. You guys are good help me out!