Amy Bechtel - your thoughts?

[Nystyle]

if you not familiar with the case she was a 24 year old woman from lander, wy that disappeared while running at a park.

her husband has been a suspect since the beginning but some factors don't seem to add up. a camper saw a blonde in a truck driving fast at 4:45pm. She later identified the truck as one similar to Amy's husbands. at this time her husband was at home making a phone call. the house was 45 minutes away from the national park amy went running at.

I watched this and didnt know how to feel. people I watched it with felt since he wouldnt take the lie detector and the fact he got remarried and lives in the house he and amy bought just days before her disappearance shows he isnt really grieving.

I was wondering what your thoughts are on this case? There has been no update and Amy has never been found. My own opinion is that she was abducted and buried somewhere. I dont feel her husband is guilty based on the not taking a polygraph test. how many cases have we seen people take and pass one and later on be arrested for the crime at hand? many!

I wish all of these cases were updated. I really feel for the families not knowing what happened to their loved ones.

entire story: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bechtel_amy.html

[Jediknight1823]

I think the husband is 100% innocent.

I think it was Dale Wayne Eaton. His own family puts him in the area of Amy's disappearance at the same time.

[Nystyle]

wow I didnt even know he was a suspect or connected at all to this case

[Jediknight1823]

Originally Posted by Nystyle

wow I didnt even know he was a suspect or connected at all to this case

Yep, the area where Amy Bechtel's car was found was Loop Road, where Eaton traveled to go fishing. Eaton had told his brother he was going fishing at one of their favorite spots, which Eaton would have to take Loop Road to get to. Eaton's brother reported this to authorities, but they dismissed it.

This case was a botched investigation because they were convinced that Steve did it, and nobody else did.

Here's the thread which mentions Eaton as a suspect.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...hlight=Bechtel

[Hambone2421]

Originally Posted by Jediknight1823

I think the husband is 100% innocent.

I think it was Dale Wayne Eaton. His own family puts him in the area of Amy's disappearance at the same time.

I agree. Before I even knew that Eaton was a suspect, I questioned why they were so focused on her husband other than the simple fact that he is her husband.

The only question I have is that when Eaton killed Lisa Kimmel, he dumped her body. Would he not have dumped Bectel's body as well? If not, what did he do with it? If he did dump her body, I wonder if it was eaten by wild animals.

[Mastermind]

If I'm correct she was jogging when she disappeared...which means she was fair game for anybody.

There's nothing here that definitely points to the husband as the suspect over a stranger. This sounds more like a stranger attack. A rape/murder.

The husband deserves some blame her though..by refusing the polygraph he essentially delayed the process of clearing him. Esentially there is nothing to clear him with, so how could the police not still focus on him. The police have to be thorough and focus on clearing the people the victim knows before going after the stranger murders.

I tend to believe that it is better to simply take a polygraph and do what the police ask than not to. You just run too much of a risk in making yourself a suspect by refusing to do what they ask.

[Hambone2421]

Originally Posted by Mastermind

If I'm correct she was jogging when she disappeared...which means she was fair game for anybody.

There's nothing here that definitely points to the husband as the suspect over a stranger. This sounds more like a stranger attack. A rape/murder.

The husband deserves some blame her though..by refusing the polygraph he essentially delayed the process of clearing him. Esentially there is nothing to clear him with, so how could the police not still focus on him. The police have to be thorough and focus on clearing the people the victim knows before going after the stranger murders.

I tend to believe that it is better to simply take a polygraph and do what the police ask than not to. You just run too much of a risk in making yourself a suspect by refusing to do what they ask.

I agree but since he lawyered up, his attorney said he would never recommend that a client take a polygraph. His attorney probably convinced him of all the harm that could happen if the results come back inconclusive. But if I were innocent, I'd take it to clear my name.

[Nystyle]

I can understand why he didnt take one though. if your nervous it reads you as lying.

I dont remember what case it was but a guy said he went to the gas station with his friend and she met up with 2 guys she knew and left with them. she weas never seen again. he took THREE lie detectors and passed them all.

when they did the update the friend that passed the lie detectors admitted to raping and killing the woman.

[soilentgreen]

Gary Ridgeway passed one of his lie detector tests as well. However, it's understandable that Bechtel's husband hesitancy would cause him to come under increased suspicion.

Besides homicide, it's also possible she was attacked by a grizzly or mountain lion in the park. I had an encounter with a black bear years ago in Wisconsin while hiking, so it can happen (thankfully the bear ran off). Shoshone National Forest covers a pretty large area, so it would have made a search more difficult.

As far as I've read it was never determined if she even managed to run that day or if she was parked at her usual spot.

[Mastermind]

Besides homicide, it's also possible she was attacked by a grizzly or mountain lion in the park. I had an encounter with a black bear years ago in Wisconsin while hiking, so it can happen (thankfully the bear ran off). Shoshone National Forest covers a pretty large area, so it would have made a search more difficul

t.

Never thought about that. Good pull.

Another theory that comes to mind is that she might have been killed accidently by illegal hunters. Perhaps they dumped her body someplace.

[nohwheregirl]

It's interesting that you bring up grizzly bears, soilentgreen. I don't want to give anyone any ideas, but my forensic anthropology professor once told our class that if she wanted to get away with a murder, she would feed the victim to grizzly bear. They so utterly destroy their prey, that you wouldn't be able to tell who/what actually killed them.

Now, I don't actually think that anyone fed Bechtel to a grizzly bear! However, I'm not sure if an animal attack scenario would make it easier or harder for her to find. I actually think it might make it easier, because you would probably at least find evidence of an attack, even if you didn't find a body.

Now having flashbacks of the movie Grizzly Man. /shudder

[Big3sCompanyFan]

Originally Posted by nohwheregirl

It's interesting that you bring up grizzly bears, soilentgreen. I don't want to give anyone any ideas, but my forensic anthropology professor once told our class that if she wanted to get away with a murder, she would feed the victim to grizzly bear. They so utterly destroy their prey, that you wouldn't be able to tell who/what actually killed them.

Now, I don't actually think that anyone fed Bechtel to a grizzly bear! However, I'm not sure if an animal attack scenario would make it easier or harder for her to find. I actually think it might make it easier, because you would probably at least find evidence of an attack, even if you didn't find a body.

Now having flashbacks of the movie Grizzly Man. /shudder

The problem with that is it's extremely rare that grizzlies and mountain lions kill people. And you DO often find remains of people who've been attacked by animals so your professor is wrong on that.

Look at Timothy Treadwell and Amy Huginart. There were PLENTY of bears and even wolves to consume all their remains but they found their complete skeletons with most of the flesh still on.

[porchlight]

Some articles about Amy here
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Porchlig...?showtopic=504

[Mastermind]

It's interesting that you bring up grizzly bears, soilentgreen. I don't want to give anyone any ideas, but my forensic anthropology professor once told our class that if she wanted to get away with a murder, she would feed the victim to grizzly bear. They so utterly destroy their prey, that you wouldn't be able to tell who/what actually killed them.

This reminds of the scene in Goodfellas where they tried to feed the guy to the lions.

As good an idea as this is I see some problems with doing this

1.if the polar bear is a captive animal, the animal could die, defecate or vomit the remains. Someone could come across the remains and make it out as something. A ring, belt buckle or watch could be found.

2. You would have to feed the victim to the bear alive. This may be problematic and time consuming. The bear might not be that interested in the guy.

3. Getting access to a live polar bear is difficult in an of itself. I guess you could break into the zoo(Goodfellas). Your average criminal certainly couldn;t do it. Only a criminal organization like Cosa Nostra or the Russian Mob.

4. Getting rid of the body may be meaningless if someone rats on you and says that he witnessed you feeding the guy to the Polar Bear.

5. Ditto for a camera inside viewing the whole thing. Even a wire tap.

6. The polar bear could also destroy another piece of evidence as well...namely yourself!!!


If you think about it, we've seen the best way to dispose of a body in UM.
Dave Bochs and NLO.

[Clockworkhigh]

Originally Posted by Nystyle

I can understand why he didnt take one though. if your nervous it reads you as lying.

You won't be nervous if you are innocent though. Not gut wrenchingly nervous that's for sure. Think about this for a second:

This is where a polygraph gets you. If your wife asks you a question and you have a guilty conscience before she asks you then you will automatically become nervous - on the inside. If you are innocent you aren't primed for anything and it would catch you off guard. You are innocent so you are more relaxed. The polygraph picks up that stuff.

By the way a polygraph is NOT something that can convict you. It can clear you, but not convict you. It is purely circumstantial evidence. Also remember Mike Morris? The man accused of killing his wife and another woman with the same name - Mary Morris. It was thought to be a hit gone wrong. Anyways, he didn't take a lie detector test. In fact, before he was questioned he sough legal advice. That's right, before he was questioned. He wasn't even a suspect at the time. Co-operation will go a long ways in helping clear your name. Don't rule out Amy Bechtel's husband. That camper who saw his truck could have had a descrepancy in the times.