Victims you really felt for

[zack007attack]

I am sure we have sympathy for everyone shown on UM who became a victim of some of the most horrific crimes ever committed, or were never seen again. Did anyone feel a strong sense of remorse for anyone specific? I did:

Nick Markowitz
Tara Calico
Jennifer Pratt
Norman Ladner
Patsy Wright

[alfiechat]

I really felt sorry for Kristophe Field, the son of Bill Day, who ended up dying of leukemia and never seeing his dad again.

I also felt sorry for the victims of the I70 killer.

And the story of Clifford Sherwood really always touched me as well.

[sdb4884]

Bill Day and Jenny Pratt are two that stick out in my mind.

[UMfan77]

I really feel bad for Gus Hoffman's mother. She went to great length's to get information about his disappearance, and murder. At the end of the segment, she was pleading to the camera that if anyone knew "where her son was" to call her or the police. She was so heartbroken.

[Hambone2421]

Originally Posted by zack007attack

I am sure we have sympathy for everyone shown on UM who became a victim of some of the most horrific crimes ever committed, or were never seen again. Did anyone feel a strong sense of remorse for anyone specific? I did:

Nick Markowitz
Tara Calico
Jennifer Pratt
Norman Ladner
Patsy Wright

I agree on Nick Markowitz. That poor kid had absolutely nothing to do with the beef between his brother and Jesse James Hollywood. Others on my list include:

1. Anyone that Kenneth McDuff killed.
2. Monika Rizzo. Any woman that is battered by her husband has my sympathy. In Monika's case, she was later killed by him.
3. The two Arkansas boys who were murdered and then put on the train tracks for their bodies to be run over.
4. Tom Roche
5. The Rogers women killed by Oba Chandler. I will never forget this story.

[Mastermind]

I agree on Nick Markowitz. That poor kid had absolutely nothing to do with the beef between his brother and Jesse James Hollywood.

Though I do wonder why he didn;t just run away. Granted he was told that he would be released soon, but he had more chances to escape than most hostages ever get.

Not blaming Nick by any means, but I do think he a chance to escape whereas the other victims like the Arkansas Boys probably didn;t have such an opportunity.

[Hambone2421]

Originally Posted by Mastermind

Though I do wonder why he didn;t just run away. Granted he was told that he would be released soon, but he had more chances to escape than most hostages ever get.

Not blaming Nick by any means, but I do think he a chance to escape whereas the other victims like the Arkansas Boys probably didn;t have such an opportunity.

Good point although I think it was the lure of the women and drugs that probably kept him around.But that's pure speculation.

[Drakken]

Gordon McAllister comes straight to my mind.

A special mention also to both the woman known as "Debbie" and Jane Borowski, who each survived what were two brutal, wicked, and vicious attempted murders.

[Drakken]

Originally Posted by Hambone2421

Good point although I think it was the lure of the women and drugs that probably kept him around.But that's pure speculation.

He remained because in his mind there was really no imminent threat, he was treated more as a guest than a hostage, even though it was what he was. He was really an hostage in the classical sense of the word : a living guarantee of good faith. Hollywood was rather savyy in treating Nick with respect, fully expecting an arrangement was to be made. Nick, when released, would simply say that he was invited to a party going on in Hollywood's house. Drugs and alcohol were around, and I am sure girls kept him pretty busy and were treating him well, perhaps even invited by Hollywood to make him has homely and comfortable as possible, if you get what I mean.

In Nick's mind, his brother Ben and Hollywood would settle their money problem pretty quick one way or another and he would be able to go back home without a hitch. And why should he expect anything different? It was Jesse James Hollywood, a good pal, a chap he knew well, not Pablo Escobar.

However, it went horribly, horribly wrong.

As much as it is a callous act by Hollywood, I do not think that he intended to bodily harm or kill Nick when he took him as hostage. He just wanted to compel Ben to be reasonable and pay his marijuana debt. But nor did he expect Ben to renegade and tell him to shove it while he was holding his brother as hostage. Ben basically put him against the wall to dare commit murder, thinking he was only posturing and bombing his chest, but he wouldn't dare go as far as to commit murder. It's a game of chicken, but this time with a third party's life on the line. As much as I hate the whole situation, and Hollywood is certainly not a sympathetic figure, Hollywood's two choices was to let him go free anyway (and lose face in front of his crew, and kiss his nascent and lucrative criminal career goodbye), or heed his word and have Nick killed in retaliation.

[Tap Dancer]

I feel bad for the families of missing persons. Imagine a loved one disappearing and never knowing what happened to them...

[dynoguy88]

Larry Dicken's mother. She watched her son get shot twice. Then she held on to him as he got shot a third time. Then, a few minutes later, she watched him get shot with a rifle.

Seeing your child get killed in such a horrific way...I don't know how a human being could ever recover emotionally from that.

[Lakeboy]

I felt so sorry for Patty Stallings the first time I saw her case. The prosecutor even said he was comfortable with the verdict. I was though when she was soon released after the broadcast.

[Kane]

Originally Posted by Tap Dancer

I feel bad for the families of missing persons. Imagine a loved one disappearing and never knowing what happened to them...

Same here. I especially feel for James Munson, whose brother Oliver (a school teacher) went missing in 1984. He commented on how Oliver's disappearance affected the family, especially their mother, and made a plea to the audience, hoping that someone watching has information that could rid them of the burden of not knowing what happened to Oliver.

I also felt for one of Oliver's colleagues who was interviewed in the segment. I can't forget him mentioning that he has been approached by former students who would ask him what became of Oliver. It's sad to hear him say he had to tell them he didn't know.

Based on what this colleague said, it sounds to me that Oliver Munson had a positive impact on many of his students.

This may or may not have been mentioned here before, but there was an article published last year about the 25th anniversary of Oliver Munson's disappearance.

http://www.explorehoward.com/news/61...gone-25-years/

[UMfan77]

Originally Posted by Kane

...This may or may not have been mentioned here before, but there was an article published last year about the 25th anniversary of Oliver Munson's disappearance.

http://www.explorehoward.com/news/61...gone-25-years/

I've never came across that article, it's very interesting. The disappearance of Oliver Munson has always bothered me, he innocently bought a car that happened to be stolen and in all probability was murdered because of it. How tragic for his family and friends. I hope this case gets solved in the near future or the police can track down Dennis Watson for questioning.

[mphs95]

I feel sorry for Jacklyn Dowalby's family. Their child went missing, then the inexperienced police department went after the father. A classic case of making the facts fit the theory.