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zack007attack · 12-15-2009, 12:20 AM

What do you guys think happened to him? I saw the segment and both families had been debating over it.

I think the police should have done ballistics testing on the rifle found in his truck, and if it matched the bullets taken from Latricia's body, I would say that Dub is a killer and is on the run somewhere where he blends in; possibly in some part of the country that is big in the trucking industry.

Do you think he is a killer? I think he is, because no one else seemed to have a motive to kill Latricia. His family says they haven't heard from him or given him any aid, and I believe them. But due to his connections in the trucking industry, he is probably living under an assumed name and changed his appearance while living off a new job.

Mastermind · 12-15-2009, 12:18 PM

Depends on whose blood it was?

1. If it's the son's then most likely the child was killed and Dub is a single fugitive. Though that leaves the question as to what he did with the boy's body?

2.If the blood is Dub's then most likely it was the result of defensive wounds from the murder of his wife. Then Dub probably has moved out of the country with his son. The son may even be aware of what happened and may even be fine with what his father did.

OT: what the hell kind of name is Dub anyway.

Oldschooler81 · 12-15-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastermind

Depends on whose blood it was?

1. If it's the son's then most likely the child was killed and Dub is a single fugitive. Though that leaves the question as to what he did with the boy's body?

2.If the blood is Dub's then most likely it was the result of defensive wounds from the murder of his wife. Then Dub probably has moved out of the country with his son. The son may even be aware of what happened and may even be fine with what his father did.

OT: what the hell kind of name is Dub anyway.

I agree. This was another case I was kinda split on, but I think what one of the police investigators said was true. About how Dub was basically a good guy but blew up sometimes if he was drunk, when if he had time to think it over, he otherwise wouldn't have.

That's kind of a scary thought about Chance, but it's possible I guess. I do get the impression he might've been the source of some fighting between them - like when Latricia got on his case about the running water and Dub came to his defense (totally understandable, but he did overreact). Maybe the kid didn't like her because of her being the stepmom telling him what to do.

If Dub was the killer - I'd say the odds of Chance being with him or a victim himself is about 50/50.

crystaldawn · 12-15-2009, 05:57 PM

Well I definitely think Dub killed his girlfriend. I'm not sure whether or not he would kill Chance. I tend to believe he took him on the run with him. The fact that he decided to take Chance with him instead of leaving him with his mother makes me think that Chance probably witnessed the murder and Dub didn't want him to tell what he knew. I do find it strange that they haven't been found in all these years. There's also the slight possibility that he killed Chance and himself soon after killing Patricia and their bodies just haven't been found.

MissFit29 · 12-15-2009, 07:52 PM

I think that Chance might have pulled the trigger in this one, and then his dad took him and fled so he wouldn't be prosecuted.

Oldschooler81 · 12-16-2009, 01:41 AM

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I think that Chance might have pulled the trigger in this one, and then his dad took him and fled so he wouldn't be prosecuted.

That'd be one mean *ss kid if he did, but I've heard so much that nothing really shocks me about world anymore. If they are still alive, that could be a reason they haven't resurfaced. When did this case happen, like '93? He'd be a twentysomething now, so he's been old enough for years (if alive and he'd been kidnapped unwillingly by Dub) to have escaped or been on his own.

I agree Crystaldawn- one way or the other Dub probably is guilty (no one else would've had a motive). They probably did fight about Chance, like the segment portrayed, so that might've escalated things.

Mastermind · 12-16-2009, 02:30 AM

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I think that Chance might have pulled the trigger in this one, and then his dad took him and fled so he wouldn't be prosecuted.

Chance was a minor, so it's not like he would be sent to the electric chair or anything.

Even Dub would know that nothing truly serious would happen to Chance if he was turned in. It would have been treated like an accident and their would be no conseuqences. Fleeing only complicates things.

The only reason to flee would be if Dub thought that he would be blamed for the death.

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I do find it strange that they haven't been found in all these years.

Most likely they are hiding in Mexico.

kadrmas15 · 12-16-2009, 02:59 AM

Well in Texas, he would have only got lethal injection, no electric chair there since the 1970's. Texas was in fact the first state to adopt lethal injection as its method of execution. Personally, while I find it an interesting theory, I do not think Chance did this. I mean, it seems to me that Chance was not mad at her or angry at her, it was Dub that got jealous and angry at her particularly if he had a few drinks beforehand.

My guess, there was yet another fight. Dub 'lost it' and shot her 6 times. Chance clearly was there when this happened. He was either asleep in the house or he perhaps maybe even witnessed it. But I think Dub took Chance and went on the run. I imagine they are still on the run today. My guess as to why Chance has not come forward. To be honest, Dub has probably brainwashed him. This happens a lot more than most people think and he probably thinks his dad's girlfriend and even his own mother are the bad people in all of this not his dad.

burbqueen · 12-16-2009, 12:27 PM

am I the only one that thinks they were all murdered??

Mastermind · 12-16-2009, 01:13 PM

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am I the only one that thinks they were all murdered??

You mean all three (Dub, his wife, and Chance) all killed by an outside party?

1. Why leave one body and hide the others two. Why choose that particular combination of Dub and Chance to take with you? What was so special about those two instead of the wife?

2. Why kill the wife first? Wouldn't it be more logical to kill Dub first?

3. What evidence is there of another person at the crime scene?

4. Why was their no sign of struggle?

5. Laetricia was shot six times by a .22 caliber REVOLVER. Six shots is the limit. If this suspect wanted to shoot Dub or Chance, he would need to have reloaded. Considering this guy had to kill two other people. Two bullets would have been enough to kill Laetricia, especially considering he most likely killed her while she was sleeping.

6. Why did the killer take Dubs truck, take out his checkbook and his wallet anbd bury the two bodies elsewhere.

burbqueen · 12-16-2009, 01:34 PM

just asking!

I think Dub did kill them, but I think he and the kid are dead too. If they are alive then I would think that maybe the son would be found somewhere, but then again there are the Maples that escaped for years and brainwashed the kids. Hopefully the truth will be found out.

If a third party did kill them maybe they killed the woman then Dub came home and they kidnapped him and the kid and killed them out in the woods somewhere.

Oldschooler81 · 12-16-2009, 10:20 PM

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If a third party did kill them maybe they killed the woman then Dub came home and they kidnapped him and the kid and killed them out in the woods somewhere.

Yeah I think that's actually pretty likely. It's been awhile since I watched the segment, but I just remembered Chance's grandparents got a call from a kid (who they thought might've been him) that seemed to be asking for help. Maybe it wasn't help from his dad, but from the kidnapper!

I think Dub might've been capable of violence if he were drunk/ticked off enough, but not of murder (then again maybe UM didn't tell us everything). It's probably true he was mostly a decent guy except when he blew up and acted like he otherwise wouldn't have.

mattc · 01-01-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastermind

5. Laetricia was shot six times by a .22 caliber REVOLVER. Six shots is the limit. If this suspect wanted to shoot Dub or Chance, he would need to have reloaded. Considering this guy had to kill two other people. Two bullets would have been enough to kill Laetricia, especially considering he most likely killed her while she was sleeping.

Great catch!!! I hadn't thought of that, but it makes the idea that an outside party was involved even more ludicrous. Frankly, I''m not sure I believe the grandparents about the "help help me" call; that sounds too much like a ploy, so either it was a hoax or a lie designed to shift the blame away from Dub and onto a kidnapper.

If he hasn't killed himself and Chance, I wouldn't be surprised it one of these days they turn up somewhere, perhaps still in the US.

mphs95 · 01-22-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaldawn

Well I definitely think Dub killed his girlfriend. I'm not sure whether or not he would kill Chance. I tend to believe he took him on the run with him. The fact that he decided to take Chance with him instead of leaving him with his mother makes me think that Chance probably witnessed the murder and Dub didn't want him to tell what he knew. I do find it strange that they haven't been found in all these years. There's also the slight possibility that he killed Chance and himself soon after killing Patricia and their bodies just haven't been found.

I wonder if it was Chance that killed Latricia, whether purposely or not. It has been stated that he was a major brat. Perhaps he had a few issues as well. If so, Dub might have taken him on the run to protect him.

mah79 · 01-22-2010, 03:16 PM

Hey everyone,
I just had a very quick question. The segment (as well as the Charley Project) both mention that Latricia had 2 children. I have always wondered...where were they? There is no indication in the story that they lived with Latricia, and there is no indication that they had any contact with Dub or Chance. I remember in the re-creation that you only saw Dub, Chance and Latricia...arguing in the kitchen, and then going out to a restaurant together. But what happened to her children? I can only imagine what they must have gone through after their mother died.

12-15-2009, 12:20 AM	#1
zack007attack Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 30, 2009 Posts: 402	Dub Wackerhagen What do you guys think happened to him? I saw the segment and both families had been debating over it. I think the police should have done ballistics testing on the rifle found in his truck, and if it matched the bullets taken from Latricia's body, I would say that Dub is a killer and is on the run somewhere where he blends in; possibly in some part of the country that is big in the trucking industry. Do you think he is a killer? I think he is, because no one else seemed to have a motive to kill Latricia. His family says they haven't heard from him or given him any aid, and I believe them. But due to his connections in the trucking industry, he is probably living under an assumed name and changed his appearance while living off a new job.

12-16-2009, 12:27 PM	#9
burbqueen Master of My Domain Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 11, 2009 Location: texas Posts: 160	am I the only one that thinks they were all murdered??
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12-15-2009, 12:18 PM	#2
Mastermind Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1,843	Depends on whose blood it was? 1. If it's the son's then most likely the child was killed and Dub is a single fugitive. Though that leaves the question as to what he did with the boy's body? 2.If the blood is Dub's then most likely it was the result of defensive wounds from the murder of his wife. Then Dub probably has moved out of the country with his son. The son may even be aware of what happened and may even be fine with what his father did. OT: what the hell kind of name is Dub anyway.

12-15-2009, 05:57 PM	#4
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Well I definitely think Dub killed his girlfriend. I'm not sure whether or not he would kill Chance. I tend to believe he took him on the run with him. The fact that he decided to take Chance with him instead of leaving him with his mother makes me think that Chance probably witnessed the murder and Dub didn't want him to tell what he knew. I do find it strange that they haven't been found in all these years. There's also the slight possibility that he killed Chance and himself soon after killing Patricia and their bodies just haven't been found.

12-15-2009, 07:52 PM	#5
MissFit29 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 09, 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 526	I think that Chance might have pulled the trigger in this one, and then his dad took him and fled so he wouldn't be prosecuted.

12-16-2009, 02:59 AM	#8
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well in Texas, he would have only got lethal injection, no electric chair there since the 1970's. Texas was in fact the first state to adopt lethal injection as its method of execution. Personally, while I find it an interesting theory, I do not think Chance did this. I mean, it seems to me that Chance was not mad at her or angry at her, it was Dub that got jealous and angry at her particularly if he had a few drinks beforehand. My guess, there was yet another fight. Dub 'lost it' and shot her 6 times. Chance clearly was there when this happened. He was either asleep in the house or he perhaps maybe even witnessed it. But I think Dub took Chance and went on the run. I imagine they are still on the run today. My guess as to why Chance has not come forward. To be honest, Dub has probably brainwashed him. This happens a lot more than most people think and he probably thinks his dad's girlfriend and even his own mother are the bad people in all of this not his dad.

12-16-2009, 01:34 PM	#11
burbqueen Master of My Domain Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 11, 2009 Location: texas Posts: 160	just asking! I think Dub did kill them, but I think he and the kid are dead too. If they are alive then I would think that maybe the son would be found somewhere, but then again there are the Maples that escaped for years and brainwashed the kids. Hopefully the truth will be found out. If a third party did kill them maybe they killed the woman then Dub came home and they kidnapped him and the kid and killed them out in the woods somewhere.

01-22-2010, 03:16 PM	#15
mah79 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 03, 2009 Posts: 141	Hey everyone, I just had a very quick question. The segment (as well as the Charley Project) both mention that Latricia had 2 children. I have always wondered...where were they? There is no indication in the story that they lived with Latricia, and there is no indication that they had any contact with Dub or Chance. I remember in the re-creation that you only saw Dub, Chance and Latricia...arguing in the kitchen, and then going out to a restaurant together. But what happened to her children? I can only imagine what they must have gone through after their mother died.