Was Dave Bocks still alive when he was dumped in the furnace? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

wiseguy182 · 12-05-2009, 02:34 AM

this question has nagged me for years, due to the torture he would have went through if he was still alive when he was dumped. Do you think he was still alive?

Allierain · 12-05-2009, 02:56 AM

Well, as bad as it might sound, I sure as heck hope not...

Apostapler · 12-05-2009, 08:15 AM

I believe he was killed first, then the body was dumped in the furnace to hide the crime. I mainly believe this for my own peace of mind, as I have no evidence.

Mastermind · 12-05-2009, 12:32 PM

I pray to God, that he wasn't..

..I wouldn't wish that type of death on anyone (well maybe on Paul Pollis and the entire Sammy Wheeler cast....

)

1. This is kind of a trick question in that the people that killed him may not have intentionally kept him alive. Perhaps they beat him over the head, in which case he may have been alive, but unconscious. They may have attempted to kill him, but didn't do the job effectively in which case, David was alive.

2. Using a gun, would have aroused security, so unless they used a knife, I assume it was a blow to the head type of job.

3. I don't care how suicidal you are...NOBODY is going to committ suicide by going into a furnace. That's like a construction worker committing suicide by going under a cement mixer. Or a diver deciding to committ suicide by jumping into a pool of pirhanas. Or a firefighter deciding to committ suicide by jumping head long into a blaze. There are OTHER less painful and more effective ways to committ suicide than by lowering yourself into a nuclear furnace.

4. Keep in mind the purpose of his attackers dumping him into the furnace was to destroy evidence. They weren't trying to be cruel as much as practical.

bell83 · 12-05-2009, 06:02 PM

I don't believe he was. At least I hope he wasn't. I have never bought into the suicide theory, because the whole point of suicide is to END the pain, not to cause a significant amount to cause one's death. Granted he would not have been alive long (a matter of seconds, if even), but still. Even if he had wanted to stage a suicide that looked like a murder, there are so many better ways to do so, that would not cause him incredible pain.

View Poll Results: was Dave Bocks still alive when he was dumped in furnace?
yes, his bosses dumped him in	5	41.67%
yes, but it was suicide	0	0%
no	4	33.33%
undecided	3	25.00%
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12-05-2009, 02:34 AM	#1
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	Was Dave Bocks still alive when he was dumped in the furnace? this question has nagged me for years, due to the torture he would have went through if he was still alive when he was dumped. Do you think he was still alive?

12-05-2009, 06:02 PM	#5
bell83 You're in high school again. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2006 Posts: 1,033	I don't believe he was. At least I hope he wasn't. I have never bought into the suicide theory, because the whole point of suicide is to END the pain, not to cause a significant amount to cause one's death. Granted he would not have been alive long (a matter of seconds, if even), but still. Even if he had wanted to stage a suicide that looked like a murder, there are so many better ways to do so, that would not cause him incredible pain.
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12-05-2009, 02:56 AM	#2
Allierain Forum Old Fart Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 30, 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 509	Well, as bad as it might sound, I sure as heck hope not...

12-05-2009, 08:15 AM	#3
Apostapler Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 06, 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 872	I believe he was killed first, then the body was dumped in the furnace to hide the crime. I mainly believe this for my own peace of mind, as I have no evidence.

12-05-2009, 12:32 PM	#4
Mastermind Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1,843	I pray to God, that he wasn't.. ..I wouldn't wish that type of death on anyone (well maybe on Paul Pollis and the entire Sammy Wheeler cast.... ) 1. This is kind of a trick question in that the people that killed him may not have intentionally kept him alive. Perhaps they beat him over the head, in which case he may have been alive, but unconscious. They may have attempted to kill him, but didn't do the job effectively in which case, David was alive. 2. Using a gun, would have aroused security, so unless they used a knife, I assume it was a blow to the head type of job. 3. I don't care how suicidal you are...NOBODY is going to committ suicide by going into a furnace. That's like a construction worker committing suicide by going under a cement mixer. Or a diver deciding to committ suicide by jumping into a pool of pirhanas. Or a firefighter deciding to committ suicide by jumping head long into a blaze. There are OTHER less painful and more effective ways to committ suicide than by lowering yourself into a nuclear furnace. 4. Keep in mind the purpose of his attackers dumping him into the furnace was to destroy evidence. They weren't trying to be cruel as much as practical.