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Old 09-26-2009, 04:57 PM   #1
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Default What do you think of the guy paying for dinner when you go out?

A lot of guys always insist that they pay, but I know many women, they see no wrong in letting them pay for their own dinner, and maybe even the guys. What do you think on this subject? In the past it was a custom for a guy to pay for dinner. it was even considered with such acts as, pulling out their chair and pushing it in for them, and opening doors for them. people consider those 2 acts as chivalry, so I don't see how paying for dinner is considered chivalry, but I do it anyway. I always used to buy my mom dinner for her bday, when I was just a kid as well. It just seemed like a classy, really generous, nice thing to do. Buying a woman a birthday dinner is different then paying for dinner when you go out for a date with a woman, but I am just saying. What do you think?
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I think it's okay for men to buy dinner for women (as long as it's not all the time.) I would be fine with a man paying for dinner occasionally, and I would do the same for him as well.
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Being a man I hate the idea!! Seriously I think that if the man asked the woman out on the date then it is his responsibility to pay. If on the other hand the woman asked the man out.... how should I know? I've never been asked out!
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Being a man I hate the idea!! Seriously I think that if the man asked the woman out on the date then it is his responsibility to pay. If on the other hand the woman asked the man out.... how should I know? I've never been asked out!
That seems reasonable. These days with many women earning as much or more than men, the ideal of a man always paying kind of conflicts with reality a bit. And honestly, I can't speak for women (or many men for that matter, lol), but I would think that being allowed to pay some of the time would ease whatever guilt/feeling of "obligation" they might have regarding anything else going on after the date.

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Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather pay my own way. Some men seem to think that just because they pay for a woman's meal and/or drink...that she *cough* OWES him. Unless it was a guy I knew well and trusted, I'd rather go dutch, thanks.
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Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather pay my own way. Some men seem to think that just because they pay for a woman's meal and/or drink...that she *cough* OWES him. Unless it was a guy I knew well and trusted, I'd rather go dutch, thanks.
Yeah there is that issue of independence that enters in and I totally respect it. Many guys "expect" something afterwards if they pay (present company and I'm sure Marv not included here) and going dutch would alleviate such a notion.

Then again, I'm sure most of the ladies here would be more prudent about who they go to dinner with, and would probably decline an invite from a guy who might think such a thing.
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Yeah there is that issue of independence that enters in and I totally respect it. Many guys "expect" something afterwards if they pay (present company and I'm sure Marv not included here) and going dutch would alleviate such a notion.

Then again, I'm sure most of the ladies here would be more prudent about who they go to dinner with, and would probably decline an invite from a guy who might think such a thing.
True, but you can't be too careful - especially these days.
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Yeah there is that issue of independence that enters in and I totally respect it. Many guys "expect" something afterwards if they pay (present company and I'm sure Marv not included here) and going dutch would alleviate such a notion.

Then again, I'm sure most of the ladies here would be more prudent about who they go to dinner with, and would probably decline an invite from a guy who might think such a thing.
Thanks. And your right. I don't expect something from a woman just because I buy her dinner. And I hate that there are are guys that do. Mostly because it's unfair to the ladies. Also because it makes dating more difficult for nice guys like us.
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True, but you can't be too careful - especially these days.
You are very wise to be very cautious, Monika. It does often seem these days that not only are very few people playing by the traditional rules, most don't even know what they are!
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That seems reasonable. These days with many women earning as much or more than men, the ideal of a man always paying kind of conflicts with reality a bit. And honestly, I can't speak for women (or many men for that matter, lol), but I would think that being allowed to pay some of the time would ease whatever guilt/feeling of "obligation" they might have regarding anything else going on after the date.
I agree. You made some very good points. The days of a man always paying seems antiquated to me. Times change, customs changes, and I believe this is one of those times.
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Thanks. And your right. I don't expect something from a woman just because I buy her dinner. And I hate that there are are guys that do. Mostly because it's unfair to the ladies. Also because it makes dating more difficult for nice guys like us.
I can't imagine how paranoid I'd be if I had daughters. Being a guy and knowing guys, I honestly think I'd have to be tranquilized each time my hypothetical daughter would go out on a date!
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Trust me, I'm speaking from many bad experiences!!
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I agree. You made some very good points. The days of a man always paying seems antiquated to me. Times change, customs changes, and I believe this is one of those times.
Thank you. I'm a traditionalist in most things, but as you said, some things do change out of necessity and the simple inertia of time.
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Very sorry to hear that. Also glad to hear while your experiences have altered your approach a bit, they haven't jaded you on more positive outcomes.
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It matters on the situation. I, when I go on a date, I do allow a man to pay for the dinner, but I always pay for the drinks after wards, or the tip. I think that is fair.
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