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Brian Damage · 09-10-2009, 10:17 PM

The answer to the mystery of what makes up a Filet-O-Fish sandwich turns out to involve an ugly creature from the sunless depths of the Pacific and a cautionary tale of diminishing returns.

The world's insatiable appetite for fish, with its disastrous effects on populations of favorites like red snapper, monkfish and tuna, has driven commercial fleets to deeper waters in search of creatures unlikely to star on the Food Network.

One of the most popular is the hoki, or whiptail, a bug-eyed specimen found far down in the waters around New Zealand and now into a major export. McDonald's alone has recently used roughly 15 million pounds of it each year.

The hoki might be ugly, but when its flesh reaches the consumer, it's just fish — cut into filets and sticks or rolled into sushi — moist, slightly sweet and very tasty. The hoki fishery was thought to be sustainable, providing New Zealand with a reliable major export for years.

But that turns out to be doubtful, and arguments over managing this resource are flaring not only between commercial interests and conservationists, but among the environmental agencies most directly involved in monitoring and regulating the catch.

A lot of money is at stake, as well as questions about the effectiveness of global rules and guidelines meant to limit the effects of industrial fishing.

Without formally acknowledging that hoki are being overfished, the New Zealand government has slashed the allowable catch in steps, from about 275,000 tons in 2000 and 2001 to about 100,000 tons in 2007 and 2008.

The scientific jury is out, but critics warn that the hoki fishery is fast losing its image as a showpiece of sustainability.

"We have major concerns," said Peter Trott, the fisheries program manager in Australia for the World Wildlife Fund.

Gary Johnson, McDonald's global purchasing chief, said hoki use was down recently to about 11 million pounds annually from roughly 15 million pounds.

Johnson called the diminishing quotas a sign not of strain on fish stocks but of good management. "Everything we've seen and heard," he said, "suggests the fishery is starting to come back."

And Trott held out the prospect of a turnaround that would raise the hoki's abundance off New Zealand and significantly reduce levels of ecological damage.

http://www.kentucky.com/216/story/929005.html

James · 09-11-2009, 01:18 AM

That doesn't bother me. Every time I go to McDonald's I order the quarter pounder extra value meal ... unless they offer the two cheeseburgers EVM--a location in La Crosse, Wisconsin, was still offering this as of August 2007 (Ohio restaurants quit sometime in or before 2005), and that was the last time I saw it offered! This coming from someone who has a minor goal of eating at a McDonald's restaurant in all 50 states!

ABlairican Pie · 09-11-2009, 01:34 AM

I LOVE FILET-O-FISH!!! Don't take it off the menu!!! Find a substitute. It's got to be no harder to find than fishsticks, right??

comedyfreak · 09-11-2009, 04:27 AM

Aww that's sad it's been on their menu forever and I'll order it once in awhile.

phoebe7165 · 09-11-2009, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

This coming from someone who has a minor goal of eating at a McDonald's restaurant in all 50 states!

For your Alaska McDs, you should try for the North Pole one. Yes, there is a McDs in North Pole, Alaska. Big surprise!!

robyrob · 09-11-2009, 11:38 AM

i would order it if they would stop putting that disgusting "cheese" substitute product on there.

MickeyMac · 09-11-2009, 12:16 PM

the Fish o Filet is ok, but there are other places that have a much better fish sandwich.

Doodyville10019 · 09-11-2009, 12:58 PM

I love mickey D's filet-o-fish...it's my favorite sandwich there. :-)

MrCleveland · 09-11-2009, 05:25 PM

Maybe they should replace the Filet-o-Fish with this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssh71hePR8Q

Ohio8 · 09-11-2009, 05:53 PM

The hoki fish.

Lee · 09-11-2009, 08:18 PM

It doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I am not really into Fish
sandwiches. I like my fried Fish with Fries, Cole Slaw and Hush Puppies.

browneyes106 · 09-11-2009, 11:53 PM

I only had the Filet-O-Fish a couple of times. I thought it was ok.

James · 09-12-2009, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoebe7165

For your Alaska McDs, you should try for the North Pole one. Yes, there is a McDs in North Pole, Alaska. Big surprise!!

North Pole is right outside of Fairbanks, right?

sara · 09-12-2009, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robyrob

i would order it if they would stop putting that disgusting "cheese" substitute product on there.

Why don't you just order it without cheese?

I rarely get one meself, but every now and then I do get a craving.

Marvo301 · 09-12-2009, 01:56 AM

I'm a McChicken man myself. So as long as chicken doesn't become an endangered species I should be all right!

09-10-2009, 10:17 PM	#1
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James Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Dayton, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,370	That doesn't bother me. Every time I go to McDonald's I order the quarter pounder extra value meal ... unless they offer the two cheeseburgers EVM--a location in La Crosse, Wisconsin, was still offering this as of August 2007 (Ohio restaurants quit sometime in or before 2005), and that was the last time I saw it offered! This coming from someone who has a minor goal of eating at a McDonald's restaurant in all 50 states!

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Lee veteran member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 23, 2001 Location: Pulaski, Tennessee Posts: 4,768	It doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I am not really into Fish sandwiches. I like my fried Fish with Fries, Cole Slaw and Hush Puppies.

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