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GGfanforlife · 09-03-2009, 12:31 PM

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HuntingtonM15 · 09-03-2009, 02:18 PM

Some people probably won't believe it, but it doesn't come as a huge surprise to me. She's a great actress, but I never thought she came off as seeming overly friendly.

McGillicuddy · 09-05-2009, 05:12 PM

Its probably due to her dibilitating health. When she and the cast of MTM were on Oprah last year, she was very candid about it. She also discussed her work towards finding a cure for diabites, and being a spokesperson.

Though its too bad you hear these stories about fans having these disappointing experiences or encounters with her, I don't think its fair to judge and criticize. JMO.

HuntingtonM15 · 09-05-2009, 05:36 PM

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I don't think its fair to judge and criticize. JMO.

Well, GGfanforlife actually did meet her and had a bad experience, so I think they have every right to criticize her behavior.

McGillicuddy · 09-05-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GGfanforlife

I'm not trying to start a war, but I've heard that she was even mean back in the 1960s and 1970s.

Well, I guess she's no Betty White!!! I love my Betty! She's genuine and gracious ALWAYS.

PF7074 · 09-06-2009, 04:01 PM

It's not surprising to hear these stories about MTM, although it is disappointing. The sad thing is that she's probably more like the icy character she played in the film "Ordinary People" than she is like either Laura Petrie or Mary Richards. The difficult part for us, the viewers, is to not let who she may be IRL ruin our enjoyment of those two classic TV characters. Speaking strictly for myself, it can be a bit of a struggle. I guess that I just want to believe that the icons I grew up watching are as nice and likable in reality as they always seemed to be on TV. Pretty naive of me.

Alphanumeric · 09-06-2009, 11:20 PM

Well, somebody apparently thinks she's nice, nice enough to stay married to for 25 years...

Honestly, are any of you "nice" 100% of the time? I think we are all capable of being nice and capable of being mean.

70s show watcher · 09-07-2009, 12:05 AM

ive read many stories and as much as i like mary it seems that by most accounts her behavior can best be described as moody at best and downright cold at worst

HuntingtonM15 · 09-07-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Alphanumeric

Honestly, are any of you "nice" 100% of the time? I think we are all capable of being nice and capable of being mean.

She has no excuses for being rude to a fan at a book signing. Without fans, she wouldn't have anyone to buy her book. She should know better to use her nice "capabilities" at fan events.

Schmoopie · 09-07-2009, 01:58 AM

This is why I sometimes hesitate to meet someone that I admire, because I have seen from experience that some celebs are completely unlike the likeable characters they portray. I tend to lose respect for people like this.

HuntingtonM15 · 09-07-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Schmoopie

This is why I sometimes hesitate to meet someone that I admire, because I have seen from experience that some celebs are completely unlike the likeable characters they portray. I tend to lose respect for people like this.

Yeah, I would definitely lose a ton of respect for someone if they were rude to me in person. Depending on the circumstance, they would probably lose me as a fan.

LittleRickyII · 09-07-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GGfanforlife

I'm not trying to start a war, but I've heard that she was even mean back in the 1960s and 1970s.

I have a friend who's a writer and met her around 1980 when he was young and just starting out. He was at her house for an interview and he said she was not warm at all and made him feel uncomfortable, didn't even offer him anything to drink. And she made some rude remark to him about how, instead of talking to him, she could be spending her time doing something where she would get paid. I always thought maybe she was in a bad mood because that was around the time she lost her son and sister, and her marriage to Grant Tinker was unraveling. I don't know.

RootBeerRag · 09-07-2009, 11:41 PM

I am really shocked and saddened to hear of this. While I've never heard much, if anything about her interactions with fans, I do know that she's always come across as being warm and having a good sense of humor in interviews.. just an act? I can understand having an off day, but according to most of these posts, she's had more than a few of these, and to be so cold to a fan at a book signing, especially such a young fan, and I only say this because Ms. Moore should be so lucky as to have a whole new generation appreciationg a show that has been off the airwaves for over 30 years.

NancyEiE · 09-08-2009, 06:21 PM

You can still love the character she's playing without liking her as a person. I can see her being rude if she's having a low blood sugar reaction because when I have one I can get pretty irritable but I doubt that's she's experienced that in every rude instance mentioned in this thread.

PGood97041 · 09-09-2009, 03:13 AM

this is not to excuse any rude behavior, because you'd think it wouldn't happen under nearly any circumstances. however, it's probably fairly easily explained:

1) from reading mary's second book it is obvious to me that having diabetes is an unbelievably hard thing to deal with. she details having blood sugar highs and lows, and how they cause physical problems, mood swings, and she admits, irritability. she's had it for years and it's gotta wear a person down.

2) yes, we all love her as laura petrie and mary richards, but she's mary tyler moore, and after a while it's got to get annoying at times not even being able to go to the supermarket without people staring at you or wanting to chat you up, etc. president obama went to martha's vineyard this summer and one of the reasons the stars who live there love it is that folks treat you like regular people. i could easily imagine her saying, "ok, at a big event, i'll be laura or mary, but can't i get a little privacy at other times?" (and i personally would hate to have to shake hands with everybody at a function!)

3) she's definitely got some of the diva in her, there's no denying that. but she's mary tyler moore for crying out loud, she deserves to act the star a bit, doesn't she?!

seriously, i'm sorry you had a bad experience, and while i'm tempted to say you should have just let it go, realizing that people sometimes make mistakes or have off days, it's also understandable that you feel the way you do. nobody's perfect...you, me, or MTM!

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09-07-2009, 11:41 PM	#13
RootBeerRag Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 04, 2006 Posts: 33	Surprised I am really shocked and saddened to hear of this. While I've never heard much, if anything about her interactions with fans, I do know that she's always come across as being warm and having a good sense of humor in interviews.. just an act? I can understand having an off day, but according to most of these posts, she's had more than a few of these, and to be so cold to a fan at a book signing, especially such a young fan, and I only say this because Ms. Moore should be so lucky as to have a whole new generation appreciationg a show that has been off the airwaves for over 30 years.

09-03-2009, 02:18 PM	#2
HuntingtonM15 That Bothers Me Moderator Forum Star Join Date: Jun 20, 2003 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 11,060	Some people probably won't believe it, but it doesn't come as a huge surprise to me. She's a great actress, but I never thought she came off as seeming overly friendly.

09-05-2009, 05:12 PM	#3
McGillicuddy Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Posts: 5,179	Its probably due to her dibilitating health. When she and the cast of MTM were on Oprah last year, she was very candid about it. She also discussed her work towards finding a cure for diabites, and being a spokesperson. Though its too bad you hear these stories about fans having these disappointing experiences or encounters with her, I don't think its fair to judge and criticize. JMO.

09-06-2009, 04:01 PM	#6
PF7074 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 27, 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 40	It's not surprising to hear these stories about MTM, although it is disappointing. The sad thing is that she's probably more like the icy character she played in the film "Ordinary People" than she is like either Laura Petrie or Mary Richards. The difficult part for us, the viewers, is to not let who she may be IRL ruin our enjoyment of those two classic TV characters. Speaking strictly for myself, it can be a bit of a struggle. I guess that I just want to believe that the icons I grew up watching are as nice and likable in reality as they always seemed to be on TV. Pretty naive of me.

09-06-2009, 11:20 PM	#7
Alphanumeric Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 12, 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 22	Well, somebody apparently thinks she's nice, nice enough to stay married to for 25 years... Honestly, are any of you "nice" 100% of the time? I think we are all capable of being nice and capable of being mean.

09-07-2009, 12:05 AM	#8
70s show watcher Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 20, 2008 Location: between point place and studio 8 h Posts: 4,549	ive read many stories and as much as i like mary it seems that by most accounts her behavior can best be described as moody at best and downright cold at worst

09-08-2009, 06:21 PM	#14
NancyEiE ff and rp addict Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 26, 2003 Location: Hampton, VA Posts: 174	You can still love the character she's playing without liking her as a person. I can see her being rude if she's having a low blood sugar reaction because when I have one I can get pretty irritable but I doubt that's she's experienced that in every rude instance mentioned in this thread.

09-09-2009, 03:13 AM	#15
PGood97041 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 03, 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 747	this is not to excuse any rude behavior, because you'd think it wouldn't happen under nearly any circumstances. however, it's probably fairly easily explained: 1) from reading mary's second book it is obvious to me that having diabetes is an unbelievably hard thing to deal with. she details having blood sugar highs and lows, and how they cause physical problems, mood swings, and she admits, irritability. she's had it for years and it's gotta wear a person down. 2) yes, we all love her as laura petrie and mary richards, but she's mary tyler moore, and after a while it's got to get annoying at times not even being able to go to the supermarket without people staring at you or wanting to chat you up, etc. president obama went to martha's vineyard this summer and one of the reasons the stars who live there love it is that folks treat you like regular people. i could easily imagine her saying, "ok, at a big event, i'll be laura or mary, but can't i get a little privacy at other times?" (and i personally would hate to have to shake hands with everybody at a function!) 3) she's definitely got some of the diva in her, there's no denying that. but she's mary tyler moore for crying out loud, she deserves to act the star a bit, doesn't she?! seriously, i'm sorry you had a bad experience, and while i'm tempted to say you should have just let it go, realizing that people sometimes make mistakes or have off days, it's also understandable that you feel the way you do. nobody's perfect...you, me, or MTM!