The Unidentfied girl who died of hit-and-run on Pacific Coast Highway in H Beach,CA

[johnnyangel]

Anybody have any more info on this, was this ever solved?

Last I heard they couldnt indentify the girl, he had acne scars and had a ring made of hair.

Any info or comments, please post!

[Necco]

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/40ufca.html

[johnnyangel]

Thanks. I still don't understand how many of these people are never identifiied. You would think that there would be a system in place nowadays that everytime somebody is born, their dna and fingerprints are put into a system along with the birth name, parents, etc.

Granted there will be some that slip through the cracks, but probably 90% or more would make it in the system..

[Mysteryphile]

So shocked this girl was never identified! It says she had orthodontics and expensive porcelain dental work. This girl wasn't just some homeless transient. She had to be from a family with at least a little money, since she was so well cared for.

I am positive this case will be solved eventually...they have a lot of clues to go on. Hard to belive it hasnt been solved already.

[MegtheEgg86]

Originally Posted by johnnyangel

You would think that there would be a system in place nowadays that everytime somebody is born, their dna and fingerprints are put into a system along with the birth name, parents, etc.

Granted there will be some that slip through the cracks, but probably 90% or more would make it in the system..

Because that would be an immense invasion of the right to privacy, inherent to the Ninth Amendment. Unless you're a suspect in a crime (or in a small handful of other situations), under no circumstances should civilians be made to submit samples to any government or police agency. I understand some people choose to have their children fingerprinted at local police stations and that sort of thing, but it's purely a matter of choice, as it should be. I'm a member of the armed forces and submission of that information (to include my DNA) to the federal government is perhaps necessary (especially during wartime), but trust me, it's not exactly a settling feeling.

[johnnyangel]

Originally Posted by MegtheEgg86

Because that would be an immense invasion of the right to privacy, inherent to the Ninth Amendment. Unless you're a suspect in a crime (or in a small handful of other situations), under no circumstances should civilians be made to submit samples to any government or police agency. I understand some people choose to have their children fingerprinted at local police stations and that sort of thing, but it's purely a matter of choice, as it should be. I'm a member of the armed forces and submission of that information (to include my DNA) to the federal government is perhaps necessary (especially during wartime), but trust me, it's not exactly a settling feeling.

Could this have been suicide you think? It doesnt sound like it, but on the doe-network link it stated she simply stepped out onto the Pacific Coast Hgwy and was hit be two cars.

I have personally seen this exact stretch at this exact location (I am very familiar with this area). While not impossible, I mean you literally have to be blind and deaf or not paying any attention at all to just start walking across this street without looking and observing the surroundings... I don't get it.

[kadrmas15]

Hey megtheegg, I completely agree. I will send you a pm, I would like to discuss this and a few other issues further in depth with you if you do not mind? As for this girl, well, they have her fingerprints, but my guess is, she was never arrested, so her fingerprints were not in the system anywhere. However, if someone from her family were to voluntarily come forward and give their DNA, her DNA could be compared to that. However I am against any civilian having to forcibly give their DNA and actually I am even against a lot of convicted people having to give their DNA. Like California this year started requiring anyone ARRESTED for a misdemeanor to give a DNA sample. That is beyond ridiculous. Not only that, it violates the presumption of innocence as it presumes you guilty by having your DNA taken before you are even convicted.

Johnnyangel, that is an interesting possibility about the young woman possibly committing suicide. I am not from California, but you do not have to be to know the Pacific Coast Highway is one heck of a busy road! I mean to try to cross that on foot, I just do not know. Is it known what time of the day or night she was crossing the highway? Was she under the influence of drugs or alcohol?

[MegtheEgg86]

Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Hey megtheegg, I completely agree. I will send you a pm, I would like to discuss this and a few other issues further in depth with you if you do not mind?

Sure! Don't mind at all.

[johnnyangel]

Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Hey megtheegg, I completely agree. I will send you a pm, I would like to discuss this and a few other issues further in depth with you if you do not mind? As for this girl, well, they have her fingerprints, but my guess is, she was never arrested, so her fingerprints were not in the system anywhere. However, if someone from her family were to voluntarily come forward and give their DNA, her DNA could be compared to that. However I am against any civilian having to forcibly give their DNA and actually I am even against a lot of convicted people having to give their DNA. Like California this year started requiring anyone ARRESTED for a misdemeanor to give a DNA sample. That is beyond ridiculous. Not only that, it violates the presumption of innocence as it presumes you guilty by having your DNA taken before you are even convicted.

Johnnyangel, that is an interesting possibility about the young woman possibly committing suicide. I am not from California, but you do not have to be to know the Pacific Coast Highway is one heck of a busy road! I mean to try to cross that on foot, I just do not know. Is it known what time of the day or night she was crossing the highway? Was she under the influence of drugs or alcohol?

I have been out to this exact area on vacation a handful of times, even the exact streets where this happened. I mean, its not like a freeway or anything, but you obviously have to pay attention. It is crossable and there are traffic lights and walkways. That is why I suggested that you'd literally need to be playing deliberate 'chicken' or be blind or deaf to just get hit on this street. Of course accidents happen all over just by coincidence, but I still always wonder what the heck this girl was trying to do.