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catlover79 · 08-14-2009, 09:13 PM

Doris Roberts' Marie Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond? Both were short, aggresive, guilt-tripping mothers. Ida was to the 70s what Marie was to the 90s-00s. Though I think Ida was more passive aggressive than Marie, who didn't even try to be subtle.

McGillicuddy · 08-14-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

Doris Roberts' Marie Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond? Both were short, aggresive, guilt-tripping mothers. Ida was to the 70s what Marie was to the 90s-00s. Though I think Ida was more passive agressive than Marie, who didn't even try to be subtle.

And Doris Roberts played the mother of 2 daughters on Angie. Theresa Falco was even more like Ida Morganstern! This would be a fun show to have on dvd!

catlover79 · 08-14-2009, 09:39 PM

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And Doris Roberts played the mother of 2 daughters on Angie. Theresa Falco was even more like Ida Morganstern! This would be a fun show to have on dvd!

Never saw Angie - I'd like to, though.

Kristen · 08-14-2009, 10:45 PM

Now that you mention it, I do see the similarity. Although nobody does guilt like a Jewish mother. LOL. But Marie certainly wasn't bad at it either.

- Kristen

Retro4Life · 08-14-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

Doris Roberts' Marie Barone on Everybody Loves Raymond? Both were short, aggresive, guilt-tripping mothers. Ida was to the 70s what Marie was to the 90s-00s. Though I think Ida was more passive agressive than Marie, who didn't even try to be subtle.

I can definitely see a similarity. I never considered the stature comparison, but it's certainly there! lol

Just as a sidenote, the comparison makes me realize there haven't been a lot of positive role models for mother-in-laws on network television. Both of these ladies were good people at heart, but not exactly conducive to peaceful marriages!

catlover79 · 08-14-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristen

Now that you mention it, I do see the similarity. Although nobody does guilt like a Jewish mother. LOL. But Marie certainly wasn't bad at it either.

- Kristen

Except that Marie was Italian and Ida was Jewish, but I see what you mean.

howilu · 08-17-2009, 05:28 PM

Even though their nationalities were different, Marie and Ida were two similar smothering mothers.

Kristen · 08-17-2009, 11:26 PM

Italian and Jewish aren't that far apart. I come from 1/2 Italian family, so I speak from some experience, hehe.

- Kristen

McGillicuddy · 08-18-2009, 04:52 PM

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Italian and Jewish aren't that far apart. I come from 1/2 Italian family, so I speak from some experience, hehe.

- Kristen

I think when The Golden Girls was being conceived, they considered having Sophia (and Dorothy) be Jewish. And of course Nancy Walker played Sophia's sister on that.

catlover79 · 08-18-2009, 07:49 PM

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I think when The Golden Girls was being conceived, they considered having Sophia (and Dorothy) be Jewish. And of course Nancy Walker played Sophia's sister on that.

She did? I must have missed that episode.

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howilu Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 20, 2003 Location: St. Louis Park, MN Posts: 1,961	Even though their nationalities were different, Marie and Ida were two similar smothering mothers.

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Kristen Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 17, 2000 Location: New York, USA Posts: 4,042	Italian and Jewish aren't that far apart. I come from 1/2 Italian family, so I speak from some experience, hehe. - Kristen