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Brian Damage · 06-14-2009, 10:06 PM

Talk between the Phoenix Suns and Cleveland Cavaliers of a trade that would have Shaquille O'Neal playing with LeBron James next season has not gone beyond the preliminary stages and no deal is imminent, two executives with knowledge of the discussions told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard.

The clubs have not spoken within the past few days, but sources say talks of a possible trade involving O'Neal, Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic never completely died after it was first discussed in February.

Performance Upgrade
It's no secret that Shaq moving to the Cavs would be a definite upgrade at the center position. The only question is if the Shaq Cleveland hopes to acquire will be the one who played in 75 games this season (his most since the 1999-2000), or the Shaq who only averaged 63.5 contests, including a 40-game season three years ago, in his previous eight campaigns.

O'Neal, 37, will make $20 million next season in the final year of his current deal, while Wallace will make $14 million in the last year of his contract and Pavlovic $4.9 million with only $1.5 million guaranteed.

The salary swap is close enough to make the trade work under the salary-cap guidelines, and the Suns would save $10 million in the transaction -- $4.5 million in salary and $5.5 million in luxury-tax payments.

They could save even more money if Wallace takes a buyout, a possibility that was raised when Wallace said he was considering retirement after the Cavs' Eastern Conference finals loss to the Orlando Magic.

If the Suns acquired him and bought out his contract for less than face value, they could lower their actual expenditures, although the full amount would still count toward their luxury-tax total.

Cavs GM Danny Ferry and Suns president Steve Kerr, former teammates in San Antonio, are good friends who speak often, and a possible Shaq trade has always remained on the back burner.

Cleveland aggressively pursued O'Neal in February, offering Wallace and Pavlovic. Phoenix was not interested in Wallace because his contract was not expiring and instead wanted Wally Szczerbiak.

Eventually, Phoenix pulled out of the deal because it wanted to see if the trio of O'Neal, Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire could make a deep playoff run under then newly-hired coach Alvin Gentry.

Now convinced that they are no longer contenders, the Suns fully intend to move one of their big contracts. With Stoudemire being a young building block and Nash a local icon, O'Neal, whose salary is the largest on the team, makes the most sense.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4257421

TVFactFan · 06-14-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

Talk between the Phoenix Suns and Cleveland Cavaliers of a trade that would have Shaquille O'Neal playing with LeBron James next season has not gone beyond the preliminary stages and no deal is imminent, two executives with knowledge of the discussions told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard.

The clubs have not spoken within the past few days, but sources say talks of a possible trade involving O'Neal, Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic never completely died after it was first discussed in February.

Performance Upgrade
It's no secret that Shaq moving to the Cavs would be a definite upgrade at the center position. The only question is if the Shaq Cleveland hopes to acquire will be the one who played in 75 games this season (his most since the 1999-2000), or the Shaq who only averaged 63.5 contests, including a 40-game season three years ago, in his previous eight campaigns.

O'Neal, 37, will make $20 million next season in the final year of his current deal, while Wallace will make $14 million in the last year of his contract and Pavlovic $4.9 million with only $1.5 million guaranteed.

The salary swap is close enough to make the trade work under the salary-cap guidelines, and the Suns would save $10 million in the transaction -- $4.5 million in salary and $5.5 million in luxury-tax payments.

They could save even more money if Wallace takes a buyout, a possibility that was raised when Wallace said he was considering retirement after the Cavs' Eastern Conference finals loss to the Orlando Magic.

If the Suns acquired him and bought out his contract for less than face value, they could lower their actual expenditures, although the full amount would still count toward their luxury-tax total.

Cavs GM Danny Ferry and Suns president Steve Kerr, former teammates in San Antonio, are good friends who speak often, and a possible Shaq trade has always remained on the back burner.

Cleveland aggressively pursued O'Neal in February, offering Wallace and Pavlovic. Phoenix was not interested in Wallace because his contract was not expiring and instead wanted Wally Szczerbiak.

Eventually, Phoenix pulled out of the deal because it wanted to see if the trio of O'Neal, Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire could make a deep playoff run under then newly-hired coach Alvin Gentry.

Now convinced that they are no longer contenders, the Suns fully intend to move one of their big contracts. With Stoudemire being a young building block and Nash a local icon, O'Neal, whose salary is the largest on the team, makes the most sense.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4257421

I'm confident the Suns are not that ********-lol And MONKEY FACE sHaq is just trying to win another Title before retires

Brian Damage · 06-14-2009, 10:28 PM

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I'm confident the Suns are not that ********-lol And MONKEY FACE sHaq is just trying to win another Title before retires

Why wouldn't the Suns make that deal?

TVFactFan · 06-14-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

Why wouldn't the Suns make that deal?

Why would they trade him to a WINNING team?-lol That would not make any sense to me. Who would they get in return? Big Z and Varejo and a no name?-lol

Brian Damage · 06-14-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLifeAdjuster

Why would they trade him to a WINNING team?-lol That would not make any sense to me. Who would they get in return? Big Z and Varejo and a no name?-lol

It makes perfect sense, The Cavaliers are not in the western conference and Shaq makes way too much money right now.

MrCleveland · 06-14-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

It makes perfect sense, The Cavaliers are not in the western conference and Shaq makes way too much money right now.

I believe Shaq is past his prime.

But if he did get traded...how good is he with 3-pointers?

Brian Damage · 06-14-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrCleveland

I believe Shaq is past his prime.

But if he did get traded...how good is he with 3-pointers?

I agree he is past his prime, but definitely could fit in on a winning team. Besides, at this point, it is all about making Lebron happy. Getting Shaq just might do that.

MrCleveland · 06-14-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

I agree he is past his prime, but definitely could fit in on a winning team. Besides, at this point, it is all about making Lebron happy. Getting Shaq just might do that.

I hope winning it all makes me happy.

Because right now, Cleveland STILL has the worst deficit for sports wins. 128 losses, and not just any losses...dramatic losses. We're the city with 'The Drive', 'The Red-Right-88', 'The Fumble', 'The Shot', and 'The Catch'. Even Philly can't match that...they got 100, breaking it after the Phillies won.

And if the Cavs won it all...it would be like the Carnival and Mardi Gras combined!

Brian Damage · 06-14-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MrCleveland

I hope winning it all makes me happy.

Because right now, Cleveland STILL has the worst deficit for sports wins. 128 losses, and not just any losses...dramatic losses. We're the city with 'The Drive', 'The Red-Right-88', 'The Fumble', 'The Shot', and 'The Catch'. Even Philly can't match that...they got 100, breaking it after the Phillies won.

And if the Cavs won it all...it would be like the Carnival and Mardi Gras combined!

Well, next season is the time to do it, because the Knicks and Nets are calling. lol

Big C · 06-15-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

Well, next season is the time to do it, because the Knicks and Nets are calling. lol

I honestly don't understand why LeBron would want to join either ine of those teams. They both stink and don't have a great lineup.

Why would he want to play for a loser?

James · 06-15-2009, 02:04 AM

Should "Shaq" go to Cleveland, do you think there would be a fight between LeBron and Shaq over who is "top banana" just like there was between Shaq and Kobe in L. A.?

70s show watcher · 06-15-2009, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLifeAdjuster

Why would they trade him to a WINNING team?-lol That would not make any sense to me. Who would they get in return? Big Z and Varejo and a no name?-lol

nothing steve kerr and the owners do around here make sense so to me this is no surprise

isiahthomas · 06-15-2009, 12:32 PM

FSU, i don't understand why people keep saying Lebron might go to the Knicks or Nets either when his contract is up. I don't think he would play for either one of those teams because they suck. Jay-Z is Lebron's friend and Jay-Z is supposed to be a part minority owner of the Nets and the Nets might be moving to Brooklyn, NY. Jay-Z i think is gonna try and get Lebron to come to the Nets but i don't think it's gonna happen. I think the Cavs should get Shaq because even at his old age, he can run faster down the court than Zydrunas Ilgauskas hahahahahahahahahahahaha. The Cavs need to let Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, Wally Sczerbiak go. I hope the trade happens.

MrCleveland · 06-15-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by isiahthomas

FSU, i don't understand why people keep saying Lebron might go to the Knicks or Nets either when his contract is up. I don't think he would play for either one of those teams because they suck. Jay-Z is Lebron's friend and Jay-Z is supposed to be a part minority owner of the Nets and the Nets might be moving to Brooklyn, NY. Jay-Z i think is gonna try and get Lebron to come to the Nets but i don't think it's gonna happen. I think the Cavs should get Shaq because even at his old age, he can run faster down the court than Zydrunas Ilgauskas hahahahahahahahahahahaha. The Cavs need to let Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, Wally Sczerbiak go. I hope the trade happens.

Why can't Jay-Z get a place in C-Town? He could live in Cleveland or Shaker Heights, or even something outside of this county. Maybe in Hudson since that's between Cleveland and Akron.

Brian Damage · 06-15-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FSU

I honestly don't understand why LeBron would want to join either ine of those teams. They both stink and don't have a great lineup.

Why would he want to play for a loser?

1. New York (Largest Market in the world)

2. Money (The Knicks will have a lot of it)

3. The Knicks don't just plan on signing Lebron, they have their eyes set on Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh and a few others as well.

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Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	The Suns and Cavaliers in Trade Talks For Shaquille O'Neal Talk between the Phoenix Suns and Cleveland Cavaliers of a trade that would have Shaquille O'Neal playing with LeBron James next season has not gone beyond the preliminary stages and no deal is imminent, two executives with knowledge of the discussions told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard. The clubs have not spoken within the past few days, but sources say talks of a possible trade involving O'Neal, Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic never completely died after it was first discussed in February. Performance Upgrade It's no secret that Shaq moving to the Cavs would be a definite upgrade at the center position. The only question is if the Shaq Cleveland hopes to acquire will be the one who played in 75 games this season (his most since the 1999-2000), or the Shaq who only averaged 63.5 contests, including a 40-game season three years ago, in his previous eight campaigns. O'Neal, 37, will make $20 million next season in the final year of his current deal, while Wallace will make $14 million in the last year of his contract and Pavlovic $4.9 million with only $1.5 million guaranteed. The salary swap is close enough to make the trade work under the salary-cap guidelines, and the Suns would save $10 million in the transaction -- $4.5 million in salary and $5.5 million in luxury-tax payments. They could save even more money if Wallace takes a buyout, a possibility that was raised when Wallace said he was considering retirement after the Cavs' Eastern Conference finals loss to the Orlando Magic. If the Suns acquired him and bought out his contract for less than face value, they could lower their actual expenditures, although the full amount would still count toward their luxury-tax total. Cavs GM Danny Ferry and Suns president Steve Kerr, former teammates in San Antonio, are good friends who speak often, and a possible Shaq trade has always remained on the back burner. Cleveland aggressively pursued O'Neal in February, offering Wallace and Pavlovic. Phoenix was not interested in Wallace because his contract was not expiring and instead wanted Wally Szczerbiak. Eventually, Phoenix pulled out of the deal because it wanted to see if the trio of O'Neal, Steve Nash and Amare Stoudemire could make a deep playoff run under then newly-hired coach Alvin Gentry. Now convinced that they are no longer contenders, the Suns fully intend to move one of their big contracts. With Stoudemire being a young building block and Nash a local icon, O'Neal, whose salary is the largest on the team, makes the most sense. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4257421
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James Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Dayton, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,370	Should "Shaq" go to Cleveland, do you think there would be a fight between LeBron and Shaq over who is "top banana" just like there was between Shaq and Kobe in L. A.?

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isiahthomas Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 20, 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 10,704	FSU, i don't understand why people keep saying Lebron might go to the Knicks or Nets either when his contract is up. I don't think he would play for either one of those teams because they suck. Jay-Z is Lebron's friend and Jay-Z is supposed to be a part minority owner of the Nets and the Nets might be moving to Brooklyn, NY. Jay-Z i think is gonna try and get Lebron to come to the Nets but i don't think it's gonna happen. I think the Cavs should get Shaq because even at his old age, he can run faster down the court than Zydrunas Ilgauskas hahahahahahahahahahahaha. The Cavs need to let Ben Wallace, Sasha Pavlovic, Wally Sczerbiak go. I hope the trade happens.