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Old 06-07-2009, 09:13 PM   #1
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Oh No Jennie McCarthy is an A$$! She thinks a Disease like Polio Should Come Back

Your collaborator recommends that parents accept only the haemophilus influenzae type B (HIB) and tetanus vaccine for newborns and then think about the rest. Not polio? What about the polio clusters in unvaccinated communities like the Amish in the U.S.? What about the 2004 outbreak that swept across Africa and Southeast Asia after a single province in northern Nigeria banned vaccines?


I do believe sadly it's going to take some diseases coming back to realize that we need to change and develop vaccines that are safe. If the vaccine companies are not listening to us, it's their f___ing fault that the diseases are coming back. They're making a product that's s___. If you give us a safe vaccine, we'll use it. It shouldn't be polio versus autism. (Read "New Clues to Autism's Cause.")

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Old 06-07-2009, 09:24 PM   #2
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Say WHAT?? My uncle had polio as a child and still suffers from the residual effects today (he's 67 now). My mom told me that the day the Salk polio vaccine was announced, my grandmother cried. Not because it had tested successfully, but because it was too late for my uncle. What a stupid thing to say.
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"I do believe sadly it's going to take some diseases coming back to realize that we need to change and develop vaccines that are safe."

the key word here is "sadly" - people make statements like this all the time, such as "i think my mom will have to get into a car accident for her to realize what a bad driver she is." it's just stating a sad reality, not saying that they want it to happen. unless she's whacked out, she wishes something else would happen, but just doesn't count on it.
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I don't think she means she wants Polio to come back. She is a huge advocate for children with autism and there has been a huge debate for years over whether or not vaccines contribute to the development of autism. I think this is the attempt of a desperate mother to make others aware that we need new vaccines.

I believe vaccinating children is important (all of my children are vaccinated,) but I do think parents need to make educated decisions and Jennie McCarthy is trying to let them know there is a chance these vaccines can lead to autism. I work with children with autism and they really face and uphill battle, so I can't judge the mother of an autistic child for trying to put a stop to something she believes contributed to her son's developmental difficulties.
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Maybe, but I think she could've phrased it better.
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I can't stand Jennie McCarthy, so this doesn't surprise me a bit!
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I just took my mom to a new doctor, after many years and four supposedly "good" doctors pushed harmful and ultimately ineffective prescription anti-depressants on her. Finally her mild hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue has been diagnosed and she's already feeling better after less than a week -- and all with products and supplements I've bought for her over the counter.

This same new doctor warned about flu vaccines that are in use right now as being potentially harmful.

What McCarthy apparently is trying to do is similar to those practicing alternative medicine are trying to alert us about: There are many physicians out there who are in cahoots with the big pharmaceutical companies. There are natural products available that can prevent disease and reverse the effects of present conditions.

Obviously vaccinations will always be needed. But we live in environments that are unhealthy, and we need to get back to natural products as much as possible.

I'm really angry right now, because my mom's struggles, which had been off and on, could have been treated correctly years ago. Instead it's been a lot of suffering and expensive Rx drugs. Before we want to hang McCarthy, let's stop and consider that calling attention to potentially bad practices of the healthcare field is a good thing. I've experienced it firsthand. My mom's condition came close to having her suicidal at times. Now she's beginning to lead a normal life again.
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Jenny isn't saying she wants polio back at all. She's pointing out how the medical community has put many parents in the predicament of choosing to risk their child to autism from some of these vaccines or do you risk the chance of polio by withholding that vaccine.

I agree wholehearted with her. I've read her book, Louder Than Words. You can't judge this statement without reading it properly. If I were a mother today I can see myself wanting to withhold some of these vaccines. Both are horrible, but given a choice, I'd take the risk of polio over autism.

I never used to like Jenny until she stood up and fought autism. She's actually an amazing mother - one of the best I've ever seen and a very intelligent, strong woman. My image of her rose 100% after reading about her journey into healing autism.
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I do believe sadly it's going to take some diseases coming back to realize that we need to change and develop vaccines that are safe. If the vaccine companies are not listening to us, it's their f___ing fault that the diseases are coming back. They're making a product that's s___. If you give us a safe vaccine, we'll use it. It shouldn't be polio versus autism. (Read "New Clues to Autism's Cause.")
I think what she was trying to say is that this is a possible worst-case scenario. She meant to say that if nothing works, that would be the last-ditch scenario.

She thinks if nothing works, she sadly feels that would be the last-hope idea.

She didn't think these diseases should come back. She feels that if nothng works, she sadly thinks that might be a solution.

Honestly. I think she's only looking at a possible doomsday scenario.
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Like others have pointed out, She obviously was not saying Polio should come back.
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Jenny isn't saying she wants polio back at all. She's pointing out how the medical community has put many parents in the predicament of choosing to risk their child to autism from some of these vaccines or do you risk the chance of polio by withholding that vaccine.

I agree wholehearted with her. I've read her book, Louder Than Words. You can't judge this statement without reading it properly. If I were a mother today I can see myself wanting to withhold some of these vaccines. Both are horrible, but given a choice, I'd take the risk of polio over autism.

I never used to like Jenny until she stood up and fought autism. She's actually an amazing mother - one of the best I've ever seen and a very intelligent, strong woman. My image of her rose 100% after reading about her journey into healing autism.
I agree.
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I seriously doubt this vaccine theory. Coming from an autistic sibling's eye, I believe this is all genetic. My parents had three children, one is middle range autistic while the other two are classified as average. The similarity of the children? They all had the same vaccinations. Go figure.
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Some of the info out there is downright scary. I wasn't aware until recently that fluoride can potentially be very harmful -- and in the case of vaccinations, can combine with trace metals sadly to cause ill effects. I don't pretend to know much about medicine, but it's kind of alarming that kids and adults have been using fluoride toothpastes and drinking fluoridated water for decades, and the effects may have been very harmful...!

Procter & Gamble did a study that revealed very harmful effects of swallowed toothpaste, but kept the report under wraps until Freedom of Information effort ferreted it out. We do need to be wary of what our governments claim as "safe." I hope for the sake of everyone here and their children that they never suffer from what were supposed to be truly safe practices. I don't think it's a coincidence that changes in environment and medical practices have coincided with more and more cases of attention deficit disorders, cancers, diabetes, and so on. It's good for people to be questioning what's going on.
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I seriously doubt this vaccine theory. Coming from an autistic sibling's eye, I believe this is all genetic. My parents had three children, one is middle range autistic while the other two are classified as average. The similarity of the children? They all had the same vaccinations. Go figure.
I think it's a combination, but also think these vaccines contribute to it. I think certain children are born with some enzym that makes them more suseptible to acquiring autism. I think diet also plays a large part for certain children. There isn't one particular thing, but a combination. If you haven't read her book, I highly recommend it. It's not that long, but it is fascinating.

One thing about it, I'm so glad they've identified autism and we're educating that public that this is NOT retardation in any way. I think decades ago these kids were tossed into instituations and misdiagnosed as ********, or "deaf and dumb". Some of the most brilliant minds on earth are inside autistics. It's up to us to understand that their sensory is different from ours. To me, some of the battle has been try to make them conform without understanding why they can't and maybe if we can see what they do through there eyes, we'd accept their way of seeing and dealing with the world easier so that they could deal with it easier.
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I think it's a combination, but also think these vaccines contribute to it. I think certain children are born with some enzym that makes them more suseptible to acquiring autism. I think diet also plays a large part for certain children. There isn't one particular thing, but a combination. If you haven't read her book, I highly recommend it. It's not that long, but it is fascinating.

One thing about it, I'm so glad they've identified autism and we're educating that public that this is NOT retardation in any way. I think decades ago these kids were tossed into instituations and misdiagnosed as ********, or "deaf and dumb". Some of the most brilliant minds on earth are inside autistics. It's up to us to understand that their sensory is different from ours. To me, some of the battle has been try to make them conform without understanding why they can't and maybe if we can see what they do through there eyes, we'd accept their way of seeing and dealing with the world easier so that they could deal with it easier.
I agree with you 100% Cathie! I absolutely love working with autistic children and their brilliance continues to amaze me. I wish more people would take the time to try to understand those with autism.
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