Zack and Miri Make A Porno Almost Ruined Kevin Smith's Career - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Brian Damage · 05-14-2009, 10:53 PM

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment..._and_miri.html

I kind of dropped out of society. I just kind of wrapped myself in a weed-infused cocoon … a coma, if you will. And it was great. It was really, really wonderful, man. I don't want to be one of those people who's all, "Let me tell you about legalization!" But, my God, I don't think I've ever been happier in my life. And after years and years of … you know, I used to literally fight with people online. I would waste days online, talking to total strangers, some of them probably children. I was a joke. And I made a movie where at the end they beat up these guys, and still … you'd imagine that would be therapeutic, but, no, I still kept doing it.

I really feel like I grew up in the last year, and it wouldn't have been possible if Zack and Miri hadn't done what it did. Which wasn't, like, a colossal failure, but it underperformed severely. We were all expecting double of what it did — not even 100 million bucks, but everything was pointing to an easy 60. And after being told that by, like, everybody, and then seeing what it did, it was just so ****ing disillusioning. And I know it sounds like, "Oh, rich man's problems. Oh, poor baby, you got paid a ****-ton of money to make your dopey little dream of yours come true, and now you're gonna complain that it didn't make enough money." But you know, I'm sorry, but it bugs you. It's just about, especially when you write and direct, it's about like, ****, what you have to say isn't important to me, amusing to me, or relevant to me.

"You wake up on a Saturday morning, and you’re trying to avoid the grosses, not taking any calls and **** from the studio, so the first time you’re gonna find out what the movie did the previous night is pretty much when the Internet finds out. You’re gonna go to Box Office Mojo and look it up. The morning after it came out, I came out of the bathroom, and my wife was sitting in the chair, she had this face on, and I said, what is it? And she said, do you really want to know? And I was like, "Uh, yes." And she was like "2.2." 2.2 million for a Seth Rogen movie on a Friday night? Doing the math, that’s less than a ten million opening — that means it opened less than Clerks 2, which did not have the guy from Knocked Up in it. We wound up doing ten million [opening weekend]. But ten million dollars? I mean, Seth had just opened with Pineapple Express with like 30 million dollars a few months prior. It was depressing."

JamesG · 05-14-2009, 11:41 PM

Movie theaters really gave this film hell; some just refused to screen it.

Some people have a problem with "Porno" in the title but find no problem with screening one of the SAW's that featured promotional photos of a dead guy with hooks through his face.

Also, Kevin Smith gets a lot of flack from within his own fanbase from not doing "Jay and Silent Bob movies". I remember what happened when Jersey Girl came out. The Ben & Jen fiasco plus him doing a PG-13 rom-com without Jay and Bob really turned people off.

Some people don't want anything from Smith to come out not "Jay and Silent Bob" related.

Brian Damage · 05-14-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesG

Movie theaters really gave this film hell; some just refused to screen it.

Some people have a problem with "Porno" in the title but find no problem with screening one of the SAW's that featured promotional photos of a dead guy with hooks through his face.

Also, Kevin Smith gets a lot of flack from within his own fanbase from not doing "Jay and Silent Bob movies". I remember what happened when Jersey Girl came out. The Ben & Jen fiasco plus him doing a PG-13 rom-com without Jay and Bob really turned people off.

Some people don't want anything from Smith to come out not "Jay and Silent Bob" related.

That is so unfair. Kevin Smith has got a lot of talent. People should just lay off him. Hopefully, his new movie with Bruce Willis and Tracy Morgan does well.

JamesG · 05-14-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Damage

That is so unfair. Kevin Smith has got a lot of talent. People should just lay off him. Hopefully, his new movie with Bruce Willis and Tracy Morgan does well.

The devotion to "Jay and Silent Bob" is so hard-core that people get pissed off when Smith decides not to do another movie with them.

What Bruce Willis/Tracy Morgan movie do you speak of?

Brian Damage · 05-15-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesG

The devotion to "Jay and Silent Bob" is so hard-core that people get pissed off when Smith decides not to do another movie with them.

What Bruce Willis/Tracy Morgan movie do you speak of?

The movie is called, "A Couple of Cops"

A comedy about two cops whose adventures include locating a stolen baseball card, rescuing a woman, and dealing with gangsters and their laundered money.

MickeyMac · 05-15-2009, 03:32 PM

Frankly I thought Kevin Smith ruined his career when he made Dogma

05-14-2009, 10:53 PM	#1
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Zack and Miri Make A Porno Almost Ruined Kevin Smith's Career http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment..._and_miri.html I kind of dropped out of society. I just kind of wrapped myself in a weed-infused cocoon … a coma, if you will. And it was great. It was really, really wonderful, man. I don't want to be one of those people who's all, "Let me tell you about legalization!" But, my God, I don't think I've ever been happier in my life. And after years and years of … you know, I used to literally fight with people online. I would waste days online, talking to total strangers, some of them probably children. I was a joke. And I made a movie where at the end they beat up these guys, and still … you'd imagine that would be therapeutic, but, no, I still kept doing it. I really feel like I grew up in the last year, and it wouldn't have been possible if Zack and Miri hadn't done what it did. Which wasn't, like, a colossal failure, but it underperformed severely. We were all expecting double of what it did — not even 100 million bucks, but everything was pointing to an easy 60. And after being told that by, like, everybody, and then seeing what it did, it was just so **ing disillusioning. And I know it sounds like, "Oh, rich man's problems. Oh, poor baby, you got paid a -ton of money to make your dopey little dream of yours come true, and now you're gonna complain that it didn't make enough money." But you know, I'm sorry, but it bugs you. It's just about, especially when you write and direct, it's about like, , what you have to say isn't important to me, amusing to me, or relevant to me. "You wake up on a Saturday morning, and you’re trying to avoid the grosses, not taking any calls and ** from the studio, so the first time you’re gonna find out what the movie did the previous night is pretty much when the Internet finds out. You’re gonna go to Box Office Mojo and look it up. The morning after it came out, I came out of the bathroom, and my wife was sitting in the chair, she had this face on, and I said, what is it? And she said, do you really want to know? And I was like, "Uh, yes." And she was like "2.2." 2.2 million for a Seth Rogen movie on a Friday night? Doing the math, that’s less than a ten million opening — that means it opened less than Clerks 2, which did not have the guy from Knocked Up in it. We wound up doing ten million [opening weekend]. But ten million dollars? I mean, Seth had just opened with Pineapple Express with like 30 million dollars a few months prior. It was depressing."
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05-14-2009, 11:41 PM	#2
JamesG Freakshow Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 01, 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 57,153	Movie theaters really gave this film hell; some just refused to screen it. Some people have a problem with "Porno" in the title but find no problem with screening one of the SAW's that featured promotional photos of a dead guy with hooks through his face. Also, Kevin Smith gets a lot of flack from within his own fanbase from not doing "Jay and Silent Bob movies". I remember what happened when Jersey Girl came out. The Ben & Jen fiasco plus him doing a PG-13 rom-com without Jay and Bob really turned people off. Some people don't want anything from Smith to come out not "Jay and Silent Bob" related.

05-15-2009, 03:32 PM	#6
MickeyMac Member Forum Star Join Date: Jun 18, 2008 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 19,008	Frankly I thought Kevin Smith ruined his career when he made Dogma