What are the most meaingless stastistics in sports? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Big C · 04-19-2009, 12:17 AM

In sports, there are lots of meaningful player statistics.

But I'll bet there are some that you don't think are as important as others think they are.

Here are a few of mine:

1. Strikeouts by a batter- people make too much of a deal about sluggers who have a lot of strikeouts. From 2006 to 2008, Ryan Howard struck out 181, 199, and 199 times in each season. But Philly fans didn't seem to get on his case for it- after all, he had 58, 47, and 47 homers and 149, 139, and 146 RBI's in those respective seasons.

Wreckless knows about this- there have been plenty of instances where Howard would have a 4 or 5 strikeout game one night and have a huge night the next.

EVERYBODY strike outs- Reggie Jackson struck out more times than any batter in history, and he's a Hall of Famer.

2. on-base percentage. Just because you're on base 61 percent of the time doesn't mean you'll score all the time. I think how often you get on base is not as important as scoring runs.

Wreckless · 04-19-2009, 12:21 AM

it's irony and backwards tp me, cause the most meaningless thing about sports in the general perspective are the statistics....

it's all about rooting for our team and becoming one with the sport.....

Darren J. · 04-19-2009, 12:34 AM

NBA
Blocks- most think that it makes you a great defender. It doesn't because a blocked shot doesn't always result in your team getting possession of the ball.

MLB
Slugging %- this has a minimal effect for those that are not power hitters. You don't have to be a power hitter to get runners into scoring position and driving them in.

NFL
Completions- if you're on a team with no running game, you're going to naturally throw the ball more, resulting in more completions. In addition, completions don't always result in first downs or even gains.

NHL
Plus/minus- this would be a good stat if power play goals resulted in pluses. If you're not going to count certain goals, then it is pointless.

As for strikeouts being meaningless, it is not. With Ryan Howard, he may hit 50+ home runs, but what is he doing other than that? If he is not hitting a home run or being intentionally walked, he isn't doing much of anything. Last year, he had 153 hits and 48 of them(31.4%) were home runs. That's nearly 1/3. In an average game, he probably gets to bat 4 times. His home runs/hits ratio means his hit will most likely be a home run. If he doesn't hit a home run, he does nothing else. He walked only 81 times, which is only every other game. He only had 6 sacrifice flies and 3 hit by pitches.

Bottom line is Ryan Howard striking out a ton hurts himself and the team since he does nothing else.

Wreckless · 04-19-2009, 12:39 AM

I'll add one- QB Rating in the NFL...if he hikes the ball to end the game, they count it as a loss in yards, which is stupid, and the qb rating doesn't define how good or bad a qb is, or what their game is whatsoever...

catlover79 · 04-19-2009, 12:58 AM

Too many.

littlebelle · 04-19-2009, 02:21 AM

I agree. Off topic a little, but I really need to come back to the sports thread- this is my favorite season of sports.

Wreckless · 04-19-2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by littlebelle

I agree. Off topic a little, but I really need to come back to the sports thread- this is my favorite season of sports.

Yeah you do. My last week in sports has been dreadful.....

Big C · 04-19-2009, 02:46 AM

Quote:

I really need to come back to the sports thread- this is my favorite season of sports.

Mariners are playing decent baseball and the Seahawks are a week away from drafting new players.

Wreckless · 04-19-2009, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FSU

Mariners are playing decent baseball and the Seahawks are a week away from drafting new players.

lol shes a dodgers fan Chris, not a mariners fan....

littlebelle · 04-19-2009, 03:00 AM

Yeah, The M's cool though. I mean, I root for them too, but I don't follow their games. I'm just a dodgers fan, but if I'm going to watch another team, it'll be the mariner's. I'm happy Griffey came back, everyone was really excited. Did you guys see the Mariners/Dodgers game? lol.

littlebelle · 04-19-2009, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wreckless

Yeah you do. My last week in sports has been dreadful.....

Yeah, I'm really sorry about that Kyle

. I'm actually a nba/mlb fan more then I am a nfl fan, if you didn't know.

Wreckless · 04-19-2009, 03:02 AM

You need to route for the M's all the way, miss Ramona lol. Idk, I don't like that you root for LA teams but that's just me lol. I know you have family out their.

Waterston_Fan · 04-19-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wreckless

Yeah you do. My last week in sports has been dreadful.....

I'm sorry you have had a bad week in sports.

Waterston_Fan · 04-19-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by littlebelle

Yeah, The M's cool though. I mean, I root for them too, but I don't follow their games. I'm just a dodgers fan, but if I'm going to watch another team, it'll be the mariner's. I'm happy Griffey came back, everyone was really excited. Did you guys see the Mariners/Dodgers game? lol.

Lose already will you, I want to take over the West.

TVFactFan · 04-19-2009, 01:44 PM

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04-19-2009, 12:17 AM	#1
Big C I Heart Angie Watson Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 21, 2006 Posts: 3,531	What are the most meaingless stastistics in sports? In sports, there are lots of meaningful player statistics. But I'll bet there are some that you don't think are as important as others think they are. Here are a few of mine: 1. Strikeouts by a batter- people make too much of a deal about sluggers who have a lot of strikeouts. From 2006 to 2008, Ryan Howard struck out 181, 199, and 199 times in each season. But Philly fans didn't seem to get on his case for it- after all, he had 58, 47, and 47 homers and 149, 139, and 146 RBI's in those respective seasons. Wreckless knows about this- there have been plenty of instances where Howard would have a 4 or 5 strikeout game one night and have a huge night the next. EVERYBODY strike outs- Reggie Jackson struck out more times than any batter in history, and he's a Hall of Famer. 2. on-base percentage. Just because you're on base 61 percent of the time doesn't mean you'll score all the time. I think how often you get on base is not as important as scoring runs.

04-19-2009, 12:58 AM	#5
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04-19-2009, 12:21 AM	#2
Wreckless Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 04, 2007 Location: Banned Posts: 9,408	it's irony and backwards tp me, cause the most meaningless thing about sports in the general perspective are the statistics.... it's all about rooting for our team and becoming one with the sport.....

04-19-2009, 12:34 AM	#3
Darren J. Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 19, 2009 Posts: 692	NBA Blocks- most think that it makes you a great defender. It doesn't because a blocked shot doesn't always result in your team getting possession of the ball. MLB Slugging %- this has a minimal effect for those that are not power hitters. You don't have to be a power hitter to get runners into scoring position and driving them in. NFL Completions- if you're on a team with no running game, you're going to naturally throw the ball more, resulting in more completions. In addition, completions don't always result in first downs or even gains. NHL Plus/minus- this would be a good stat if power play goals resulted in pluses. If you're not going to count certain goals, then it is pointless. As for strikeouts being meaningless, it is not. With Ryan Howard, he may hit 50+ home runs, but what is he doing other than that? If he is not hitting a home run or being intentionally walked, he isn't doing much of anything. Last year, he had 153 hits and 48 of them(31.4%) were home runs. That's nearly 1/3. In an average game, he probably gets to bat 4 times. His home runs/hits ratio means his hit will most likely be a home run. If he doesn't hit a home run, he does nothing else. He walked only 81 times, which is only every other game. He only had 6 sacrifice flies and 3 hit by pitches. Bottom line is Ryan Howard striking out a ton hurts himself and the team since he does nothing else.

04-19-2009, 12:39 AM	#4
Wreckless Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 04, 2007 Location: Banned Posts: 9,408	I'll add one- QB Rating in the NFL...if he hikes the ball to end the game, they count it as a loss in yards, which is stupid, and the qb rating doesn't define how good or bad a qb is, or what their game is whatsoever...

04-19-2009, 02:21 AM	#6
littlebelle Spell Caster Senior Member Join Date: Dec 29, 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,659	I agree. Off topic a little, but I really need to come back to the sports thread- this is my favorite season of sports.

04-19-2009, 03:00 AM	#10
littlebelle Spell Caster Senior Member Join Date: Dec 29, 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,659	Yeah, The M's cool though. I mean, I root for them too, but I don't follow their games. I'm just a dodgers fan, but if I'm going to watch another team, it'll be the mariner's. I'm happy Griffey came back, everyone was really excited. Did you guys see the Mariners/Dodgers game? lol.

04-19-2009, 03:02 AM	#12
Wreckless Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 04, 2007 Location: Banned Posts: 9,408	You need to route for the M's all the way, miss Ramona lol. Idk, I don't like that you root for LA teams but that's just me lol. I know you have family out their.

04-19-2009, 01:44 PM	#15
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,154	NBA-Points per game NFL-QB rating