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TVFactFan · 03-25-2009, 07:07 PM

White person to become a fan of the show. It's basically because the George Jefferson character is much worst than Archie Bunker and always expressed his hate for the white race in almost every episode. As a black person, I was able to get into All in the Family because he was prejudiced against all races, not just one. And when watching All in the family, there wasn't a constant put down of one particular race and not only that Archie was actually friends with a black neighbor. George on the otherhand was never friendly to his white neighbors until the series was halfway over. So basically if you watched this show as a white viewer, you were probably going to be offended because the show gave the message that racism was ok for blacks but not for whites which was shown everytime George called Tom and Helen a zebra or Tom a Honkey. So the show still has it's moments that are funny but as a black viewer who is no longer 12 and over 30 can see the unnecessary moments on the show. That probably explains why this message board was never really active in all the seven years I been here-lol

The show is on TV land and the boars is still dead, but I can undestand that now versus back in 2002.

Mr. Television · 03-25-2009, 07:16 PM

I always loved the Jeffersons. I was 9 when it premiered and I watched it almost to the end of it's run. I was never offended by it. My whole family watched it and they weren't offended either. I knew a lot of white people who were fans. I think people are too sensitive nowadays and maybe today's younger generation doesn't get the show's humor.

TVFactFan · 03-25-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood Fan

I always loved the Jeffersons. I was 9 when it premiered and I watched it almost to the end of it's run. I was never offended by it. My whole family watched it and they weren't offended either. I knew a lot of white people who were fans. I think people are too sensitive nowadays and maybe today's younger generation doesn't get the show's humor.

If Archie Was anything like George I would have STAYED far away from All in the Family-lol But yeah I know a lot of white fans of the Jeffersons too that I went to college with. It just too George so long to be LIKABLE-lol It took him 4 years to even go out in public with Mr. Bentely.

tvparadise · 03-27-2009, 01:57 PM

I am a white viewer and I've never really been bothered by anything said on The Jeffersons. It never really took me anytime to warm up to George. George, Louise, and Florence are my favorite characters. It took me longer to warm up to the white characters on the show.

TVFactFan · 03-27-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by b&tcfan

I am a white viewer and I've never really been bothered by anything said on The Jeffersons. It never really took me anytime to warm up to George. George, Louise, and Florence are my favorite characters. It took me longer to warm up to the white characters on the show.

I'm not saying that no white person like the show, I can just understand why this board is not as active as other boards. But why did it take you longer to warm up to the White characters?

TripperFan · 03-27-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by b&tcfan

I am a white viewer and I've never really been bothered by anything said on The Jeffersons. It never really took me anytime to warm up to George. George, Louise, and Florence are my favorite characters. It took me longer to warm up to the white characters on the show.

Funny, you know it was the same for me. I agree that George was WAAAAY more racist than Archie was, but I guess as whites, we're probably not as sensitive as other colours might be (in other words, we don't have the history of our ancestors being made slaves hanging over us).

What I did find a little offensive though (and the same with the Cosby show) is that when they did have a white character, often they were portrayed as nerdy as hell, goofy, or as a jerk. I always thought why can't they just have characters on the same level in a show - like they did on All In The Family. Actually most of the blacks on AITF were portrayed as cool or savvy.

I still laugh at cracks about whites - as long as it's all made in fun who cares. Most of the time the jokes are right on the money!

TripperFan · 03-27-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

But why did it take you longer to warm up to the White characters?

For me anyway, see my post above. I just thought they were "goofy" nerds.

TVFactFan · 03-27-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TripperFan

Funny, you know it was the same for me. I agree that George was WAAAAY more racist than Archie was, but I guess as whites, we're probably not as sensitive as other colours might be (in other words, we don't have the history of our ancestors being made slaves hanging over us).

What I did find a little offensive though (and the same with the Cosby show) is that when they did have a white character, often they were portrayed as nerdy as hell, goofy, or as a jerk. I always thought why can't they just have characters on the same level in a show - like they did on All In The Family. Actually most of the blacks on AITF were portrayed as cool or savvy.

I still laugh at cracks about whites - as long as it's all made in fun who cares. Most of the time the jokes are right on the money!

What about Ralph the Doorman? he wasn't goofy or nerdy at all to me

TripperFan · 03-27-2009, 03:53 PM

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What about Ralph the Doorman? he wasn't goofy or nerdy at all to me

Yah, he wasn't as "bad" as the others, but still a little on the "goody-goody" side for me.

lol

TVFactFan · 03-27-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TripperFan

Yah, he wasn't as "bad" as the others, but still a little on the "goody-goody" side for me.

lol

I can think of four more white characters who were nerdy or goofy

Charlie the Bartender
Mr. Whittendale
Mr. Whitendale's brother
Mrs. Whittendale

TripperFan · 03-27-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

I can think of four more white characters who were nerdy or goofy

Charlie the Bartender
Mr. Whittendale
Mr. Whitendale's brother
Mrs. Whittendale

Exactly! Even Willis was a bit of a dork (Mr. Hugs)!

I can't remember one truly "cool" white person on there! lol

TVFactFan · 03-27-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TripperFan

Exactly! Even Willis was a bit of a dork (Mr. Hugs)!

I can't remember one truly "cool" white person on there! lol

I meant to say Charlie and the Whittendales were not NERDS. The only white Goofballs were Tom and Bentley

Big3sCompanyFan · 03-28-2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

I'm not saying that no white person like the show, I can just understand why this board is not as active as other boards. But why did it take you longer to warm up to the White characters?

What are you talking about?? This board is one of the most active boards of the entire 70s decade!

You're overreacting as to whites who are offended by George because this is just a COMEDY. The percentage of whites would be offended are the same percent who are Klan members or in a white supremacist group which is far less than 1 percent of the country.

TVFactFan · 03-28-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Big3sCompanyFan

What are you talking about?? This board is one of the most active boards of the entire 70s decade!

You're overreacting as to whites who are offended by George because this is just a COMEDY. The percentage of whites would be offended are the same percent who are Klan members or in a white supremacist group which is far less than 1 percent of the country.

This board is not active, i don't know where you got that from. Maybe you should post more to make it active like I try to do.

Big3sCompanyFan · 03-28-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

This board is not active, i don't know where you got that from. Maybe you should post more to make it active like I try to do.

Out of all the shows in the 70s decade it is the 4th or 5th most active and there has to be 25 to 30 shows in this decade. That is pretty active.

We are even ahead of Sandford and Son.

03-25-2009, 07:07 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,064	I can see now from watching this show as an adult how it would be very hard for a White person to become a fan of the show. It's basically because the George Jefferson character is much worst than Archie Bunker and always expressed his hate for the white race in almost every episode. As a black person, I was able to get into All in the Family because he was prejudiced against all races, not just one. And when watching All in the family, there wasn't a constant put down of one particular race and not only that Archie was actually friends with a black neighbor. George on the otherhand was never friendly to his white neighbors until the series was halfway over. So basically if you watched this show as a white viewer, you were probably going to be offended because the show gave the message that racism was ok for blacks but not for whites which was shown everytime George called Tom and Helen a zebra or Tom a Honkey. So the show still has it's moments that are funny but as a black viewer who is no longer 12 and over 30 can see the unnecessary moments on the show. That probably explains why this message board was never really active in all the seven years I been here-lol The show is on TV land and the boars is still dead, but I can undestand that now versus back in 2002.

03-25-2009, 07:16 PM	#2
Mr. Television 23 Years at Sitcoms Online Forum Icon Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Location: Somewhere you're Not Posts: 62,132	I always loved the Jeffersons. I was 9 when it premiered and I watched it almost to the end of it's run. I was never offended by it. My whole family watched it and they weren't offended either. I knew a lot of white people who were fans. I think people are too sensitive nowadays and maybe today's younger generation doesn't get the show's humor.
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03-27-2009, 01:57 PM	#4
tvparadise Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 18, 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 299	I am a white viewer and I've never really been bothered by anything said on The Jeffersons. It never really took me anytime to warm up to George. George, Louise, and Florence are my favorite characters. It took me longer to warm up to the white characters on the show.