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Mastermind · 03-11-2009, 12:29 PM

This has to be one of the most unwatchable cases in UM's run. just thinking about what happened to that poor woman angers me to my bone.

The Boat Hit and Run was the case where the three woman in Texas(?) where on a boat and their boat was hit by a speeding power boat that refused to stop.

The other two girls were fine, but one of them literrally had her face ripped off by the other boat's propeller.

I am absolutely shocked and surprised that the other boat has not yet been found!

1. Even in that part of the country, there couldn;t be that many boats of that type around that area. Given the size of the boat, i assume it had to be stationed and licensed in the area. I doubt it was hauled and even if it was,

2. The boat was damaged. Someone had to have noticed the damage. There can only be so many places that you could take the boat to get repaired at in that area. Even if you sold it under the table, that buyer would have noticed the damage and would have gone to get it repaired. If your

3. if the boat was detroyed by the owner, then someone's lost his boat rather suddenly or bought a new one fairly recently. It would also mean someone's stopped paying for either insurance or lease payments on the boat.

what i'm saying is that somewhere there is a paper trail and people who have seen the boat and the occupants and/or owners.

It;s not like some lout hit an old lady on I-95 with a light gray Toyota. This was a large and expensive boat that was damaged and had a man and woman as it;s occupants.

This case should be solved, and that poor lady shoudl have a lawsuit on those bastards.

atomicfizz · 03-11-2009, 01:27 PM

I know. This is one of those cases that should have been solved in my opinion. I am always surprised that it hasn't been.

Also, maybe this is just the way they reenacted it, but I always think when the woman in the offending boat comes up it seems like she had been down on her knees doing something to, uhh, maybe make the guy lose his focus if you know what I mean.

If that is truly how it happened I guess that could explain things. OF COURSE that does not excuse it, but I never understood how this thing happened anyway.

TracyLynnS · 03-11-2009, 01:39 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if the perp took his boat out and sunk it to destroy all the evidence.

And geez, every boater knows not to be driving at wake speed in the dark. I wonder how drunk he was. His poor victim was nearly killed. Her injuries were so severe that her airway was blocked by torn tissue.

We had a boat back about the same time this happened. Unlike cars, boat loans were often done on ten year deals. Unless that guy was fairly well off, it's likely that he had a loan on his boat. And the boat was newer, right? Did he go on making payments on it after he wrecked it (and IMO sunk it)?

Plus, he probably rented a boat slip somewhere near where the accident happened. (I'm basing this assumption on my very fuzzy memory of them saying that it was a pretty big speed boat.) People who own expensive boats often rent boat slips to keep them stored. That way, when they want to go boating, they just drive to the lake and their boat is waiting, already moored at the dock. It's easier than keeping a truck and trailering a large boat every time you want to go out on the water.

I wonder if this guy had a slip rented and if anyone ever noticed that his boat wasn't there after this event. He could have gone on paying his slip rental fees to avoid suspicion, but other people whose boats were there could have noticed the empty slip, or people working at the docks could have noticed it.

And assuming that he didn't destroy the boat/evidence, and had it repaired, the damage would have to be repaired by a professional. So he either paid a boat mechanic a heck of a lot of money to fix it quietly in his home garage, or there are several people at a dealer/repair garage/marina who have seen this boat go through their system, complete with all the paperwork.

If it was professionally repaired, the service writer would have seen the boat, the mechanic would have worked on it, the fiberglass repair guy would have worked on it, and everyone all the way down to the garage porter would have seen the boat in the repair facility and stored on the lot. That's a bunch of witnesses.

Oh, and on top of that, boat repair places write your last name, on the front of your trailer so they can quickly identify it when it's stored out in the lot. So people walking the lot, even prospective buyers, garbage collecters, etc, could have seen the damaged boat with the perp's last name written on the trailer.

UMfan77 · 03-11-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by atomicfizz

...Also, maybe this is just the way they reenacted it, but I always think when the woman in the offending boat comes up it seems like she had been down on her knees doing something to, uhh, maybe make the guy lose his focus if you know what I mean.

If that is truly how it happened I guess that could explain things. OF COURSE that does not excuse it, but I never understood how this thing happened anyway.

What?? Are you for real?? That was not funny.

atomicfizz · 03-11-2009, 02:52 PM

I wasn't trying to be funny.

On the reenactment after the boat crashes, the guy just stands there staring at them and then the woman pops up. That's what it made me think of. Perhaps it was tasteless but that's what it looks like. Why is this any more offensive than saying he was distracted or careless because he was drunk? This was based on the reenactment presented by UM. I stated in my post that I didn't know if that's how it really happened, but it might explain how something so senseless could happen. I'm not sure why you are all pissed about this. It's just speculation based on what we were shown. It happens all the time on this forum.

StackTime · 03-11-2009, 02:54 PM

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What?? Are you for real?? That was not funny.

I have to agree there, and I thought remarking that the Stephanie is beautiful before AND after was depraved. Yikes.

TracyLynnS · 03-11-2009, 04:21 PM

I don't see where the controversy is here. I don't see anything flippant, condescending, or an attempt to make light of the situation in atomicfizz's comment.

I think she brings up a valid point. People do all kinds of stupid crap on boats and in cars. My dad retired from driving a semi long distance. He's seen everything from people making cereal in a bowl with milk and eating it while driving to full blown sexual intercourse in the driver's seat on the expressway.

And as far as what they are doing in boats, my 21 year old son, who is a very religious virgin, competes in professional bass tournaments. He's really starting to rank up there, winning two division championships in 2006 and 2007, placed 13th in the nation in the NBAA in 2008, was Eagle Claw angler of the year in 2008 and a bunch of other stuff.

While he was out fishing a tourney with a fishing partner last summer, there was a pontoon boat full of drunken women who were flashing their breasts in broad daylight. Pretty soon, a boat with several men aboard noticed them and pulled up close by. The guys started flashing their goods to the girls. None of these people had anything to do with the bass fishing tournament, and this lake was small and surrounded by family homes.

I was sitting in my car in the parking lot and could hear the girls yelling, "Oh my god! I saw yer fricken wiener!" And all the other inappropriate stuff they were saying to each other.

Who knows how long this went on during the day. I witnessed it for an hour while waiting for the tournment participants to bring in their boats for the weigh in to see who won.

People are just trash and whores. Then when you put them drunk on the water at the controls of a powerful murder machine while they're drawers are dropped, who knows what kind of disaster they'll get themselves involved in.

Mastermind · 03-11-2009, 04:53 PM

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Also, maybe this is just the way they reenacted it, but I always think when the woman in the offending boat comes up it seems like she had been down on her knees doing something to, uhh, maybe make the guy lose his focus if you know what I mean. If that is truly how it happened I guess that could explain things. OF COURSE that does not excuse it, but I never understood how this thing happened anyway.

You do bring up a point that the two people might have been having an affair which may have made contacting the authorities even more problematic for them.

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And assuming that he didn't destroy the boat/evidence, and had it repaired, the damage would have to be repaired by a professional. So he either paid a boat mechanic a heck of a lot of money to fix it quietly in his home garage, or there are several people at a dealer/repair garage/marina who have seen this boat go through their system, complete with all the paperwork.

If it was professionally repaired, the service writer would have seen the boat, the mechanic would have worked on it, the fiberglass repair guy would have worked on it, and everyone all the way down to the garage porter would have seen the boat in the repair facility and stored on the lot. That's a bunch of witnesses.

That's exactly what i am saying! There has to be paper trail of receipts or documents somewhere in any scenario.

Heck, this guy had to be making some serious coin to have a boat like that. His co-workers,neighbors, family, and friends alone, must have wondered why "John Doe" didn';t have his boat anymore or why he sold it or is trading in for a new one.

If the boat was brand new, it would be even more suspicious, why the boat was gone after just one trip.

atomicfizz · 03-11-2009, 05:12 PM

Thank you TracyLynn.

People do stupid things sometimes. I think what happened to the girl in this case was absolutely horrible. I was just speculating based on what it looked like in the UM segment. People do crazy, dangerous things all the time, and I am willing to guess that usually nothing terrible comes about because of it. It could be one of those things that seems like fun and games until someone gets hurt.

I will never understand why the guy didn't do anything after this horrible incident. I am guessing it was because he was doing something wrong, whether it was speeding, being careless, drunk, or something else, and he was scared, making him act like a total d-bag and just drive away. I was just trying to present another theory. Thank you mastermind for acknowledging that. I would have hoped that by this time his conscience would have gotten to him, but I guess not. The whole thing was a tragedy. I'm just glad the victim made it through.

browneyes106 · 03-11-2009, 07:03 PM

I do remember this story and I really felt bad for that woman. She must have had some really good surgeons because her face looked good. But she still should have had justice.

browneyes106 · 03-11-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastermind

You do bring up a point that the two people might have been having an affair which may have made contacting the authorities even more problematic for them.

That's exactly what i am saying! There has to be paper trail of receipts or documents somewhere in any scenario.

Heck, this guy had to be making some serious coin to have a boat like that. His co-workers,neighbors, family, and friends alone, must have wondered why "John Doe" didn';t have his boat anymore or why he sold it or is trading in for a new one.

If the boat was brand new, it would be even more suspicious, why the boat was gone after just one trip.

I agree the possibility of two people having an affair is a good theory and point. It would sort of explain why the offending boat occupants didn't want to take responsibility.

nohwheregirl · 03-11-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastermind

This has to be one of the most unwatchable cases in UM's run.

You can say that again. This is the one UM segment that I absolutely cannot watch. I've actually been thinking about it every time I hear about the woman who was attacked by the chimp and had her face & hands torn off. It's unbelievable the kind of trauma that a person can go through and still survive.

Necco · 03-11-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TracyLynnS

Plus, he probably rented a boat slip somewhere near where the accident happened. (I'm basing this assumption on my very fuzzy memory of them saying that it was a pretty big speed boat.) People who own expensive boats often rent boat slips to keep them stored. That way, when they want to go boating, they just drive to the lake and their boat is waiting, already moored at the dock. It's easier than keeping a truck and trailering a large boat every time you want to go out on the water.

I could have sworn they mentioned the boat being put on a trailer and being driven away after the incident.

ETA: I just checked the website, indeed, the boat was put on a trailer and driven away. So, not paper trail with a slip.

TracyLynnS · 03-12-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Necco

I could have sworn they mentioned the boat being put on a trailer and being driven away after the incident.

ETA: I just checked the website, indeed, the boat was put on a trailer and driven away. So, not paper trail with a slip.

Well, dangit. That's one theory that's shot to crap and a lot less people who we could hope for as witnesses.

TracyLynnS · 03-12-2009, 09:10 AM

Another thought on the driver of this boat.

Think of Oba Chandler and the rapes and murders he committed on his cheap little boat. Just imagine if he had a big expensive new speed boat.

He would drive it as fast as he wanted to, when he wanted to, without regard for others. And he'd be the type who'd get a sexual thrill and a power trip from being at the helm while receiving sex from someone.

I'm not saying the boat driver in this case is Oba Chandler or is as capable of repeat murders as Oba, but there are ALL kinds out there...

03-11-2009, 12:29 PM	#1
Mastermind Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1,843	Boat Hit and Run This has to be one of the most unwatchable cases in UM's run. just thinking about what happened to that poor woman angers me to my bone. The Boat Hit and Run was the case where the three woman in Texas(?) where on a boat and their boat was hit by a speeding power boat that refused to stop. The other two girls were fine, but one of them literrally had her face ripped off by the other boat's propeller. I am absolutely shocked and surprised that the other boat has not yet been found! 1. Even in that part of the country, there couldn;t be that many boats of that type around that area. Given the size of the boat, i assume it had to be stationed and licensed in the area. I doubt it was hauled and even if it was, 2. The boat was damaged. Someone had to have noticed the damage. There can only be so many places that you could take the boat to get repaired at in that area. Even if you sold it under the table, that buyer would have noticed the damage and would have gone to get it repaired. If your 3. if the boat was detroyed by the owner, then someone's lost his boat rather suddenly or bought a new one fairly recently. It would also mean someone's stopped paying for either insurance or lease payments on the boat. what i'm saying is that somewhere there is a paper trail and people who have seen the boat and the occupants and/or owners. It;s not like some lout hit an old lady on I-95 with a light gray Toyota. This was a large and expensive boat that was damaged and had a man and woman as it;s occupants. This case should be solved, and that poor lady shoudl have a lawsuit on those bastards.

03-11-2009, 05:12 PM	#9
atomicfizz Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 07, 2008 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 310	Thank you TracyLynn. People do stupid things sometimes. I think what happened to the girl in this case was absolutely horrible. I was just speculating based on what it looked like in the UM segment. People do crazy, dangerous things all the time, and I am willing to guess that usually nothing terrible comes about because of it. It could be one of those things that seems like fun and games until someone gets hurt. I will never understand why the guy didn't do anything after this horrible incident. I am guessing it was because he was doing something wrong, whether it was speeding, being careless, drunk, or something else, and he was scared, making him act like a total d-bag and just drive away. I was just trying to present another theory. Thank you mastermind for acknowledging that. I would have hoped that by this time his conscience would have gotten to him, but I guess not. The whole thing was a tragedy. I'm just glad the victim made it through.
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03-11-2009, 01:27 PM	#2
atomicfizz Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 07, 2008 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 310	I know. This is one of those cases that should have been solved in my opinion. I am always surprised that it hasn't been. Also, maybe this is just the way they reenacted it, but I always think when the woman in the offending boat comes up it seems like she had been down on her knees doing something to, uhh, maybe make the guy lose his focus if you know what I mean. If that is truly how it happened I guess that could explain things. OF COURSE that does not excuse it, but I never understood how this thing happened anyway.

03-11-2009, 01:39 PM	#3
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	I wouldn't be surprised if the perp took his boat out and sunk it to destroy all the evidence. And geez, every boater knows not to be driving at wake speed in the dark. I wonder how drunk he was. His poor victim was nearly killed. Her injuries were so severe that her airway was blocked by torn tissue. We had a boat back about the same time this happened. Unlike cars, boat loans were often done on ten year deals. Unless that guy was fairly well off, it's likely that he had a loan on his boat. And the boat was newer, right? Did he go on making payments on it after he wrecked it (and IMO sunk it)? Plus, he probably rented a boat slip somewhere near where the accident happened. (I'm basing this assumption on my very fuzzy memory of them saying that it was a pretty big speed boat.) People who own expensive boats often rent boat slips to keep them stored. That way, when they want to go boating, they just drive to the lake and their boat is waiting, already moored at the dock. It's easier than keeping a truck and trailering a large boat every time you want to go out on the water. I wonder if this guy had a slip rented and if anyone ever noticed that his boat wasn't there after this event. He could have gone on paying his slip rental fees to avoid suspicion, but other people whose boats were there could have noticed the empty slip, or people working at the docks could have noticed it. And assuming that he didn't destroy the boat/evidence, and had it repaired, the damage would have to be repaired by a professional. So he either paid a boat mechanic a heck of a lot of money to fix it quietly in his home garage, or there are several people at a dealer/repair garage/marina who have seen this boat go through their system, complete with all the paperwork. If it was professionally repaired, the service writer would have seen the boat, the mechanic would have worked on it, the fiberglass repair guy would have worked on it, and everyone all the way down to the garage porter would have seen the boat in the repair facility and stored on the lot. That's a bunch of witnesses. Oh, and on top of that, boat repair places write your last name, on the front of your trailer so they can quickly identify it when it's stored out in the lot. So people walking the lot, even prospective buyers, garbage collecters, etc, could have seen the damaged boat with the perp's last name written on the trailer.

03-11-2009, 02:52 PM	#5
atomicfizz Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 07, 2008 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 310	I wasn't trying to be funny. On the reenactment after the boat crashes, the guy just stands there staring at them and then the woman pops up. That's what it made me think of. Perhaps it was tasteless but that's what it looks like. Why is this any more offensive than saying he was distracted or careless because he was drunk? This was based on the reenactment presented by UM. I stated in my post that I didn't know if that's how it really happened, but it might explain how something so senseless could happen. I'm not sure why you are all pissed about this. It's just speculation based on what we were shown. It happens all the time on this forum.

03-11-2009, 04:21 PM	#7
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	I don't see where the controversy is here. I don't see anything flippant, condescending, or an attempt to make light of the situation in atomicfizz's comment. I think she brings up a valid point. People do all kinds of stupid crap on boats and in cars. My dad retired from driving a semi long distance. He's seen everything from people making cereal in a bowl with milk and eating it while driving to full blown sexual intercourse in the driver's seat on the expressway. And as far as what they are doing in boats, my 21 year old son, who is a very religious virgin, competes in professional bass tournaments. He's really starting to rank up there, winning two division championships in 2006 and 2007, placed 13th in the nation in the NBAA in 2008, was Eagle Claw angler of the year in 2008 and a bunch of other stuff. While he was out fishing a tourney with a fishing partner last summer, there was a pontoon boat full of drunken women who were flashing their breasts in broad daylight. Pretty soon, a boat with several men aboard noticed them and pulled up close by. The guys started flashing their goods to the girls. None of these people had anything to do with the bass fishing tournament, and this lake was small and surrounded by family homes. I was sitting in my car in the parking lot and could hear the girls yelling, "Oh my god! I saw yer fricken wiener!" And all the other inappropriate stuff they were saying to each other. Who knows how long this went on during the day. I witnessed it for an hour while waiting for the tournment participants to bring in their boats for the weigh in to see who won. People are just trash and whores. Then when you put them drunk on the water at the controls of a powerful murder machine while they're drawers are dropped, who knows what kind of disaster they'll get themselves involved in.

03-11-2009, 07:03 PM	#10
browneyes106 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 01, 2008 Posts: 6,094	I do remember this story and I really felt bad for that woman. She must have had some really good surgeons because her face looked good. But she still should have had justice.

03-12-2009, 09:10 AM	#15
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	Another thought on the driver of this boat. Think of Oba Chandler and the rapes and murders he committed on his cheap little boat. Just imagine if he had a big expensive new speed boat. He would drive it as fast as he wanted to, when he wanted to, without regard for others. And he'd be the type who'd get a sexual thrill and a power trip from being at the helm while receiving sex from someone. I'm not saying the boat driver in this case is Oba Chandler or is as capable of repeat murders as Oba, but there are ALL kinds out there...