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HHorseman · 03-05-2009, 02:06 AM

Who were the witnesses that you most believed and didnt believe when they were being interviewed.

crystaldawn · 03-05-2009, 08:23 AM

Well the ones I didn't believe right off were Chad Noe, Stephen Marfeo, Mark Nichols and Jule Caylor. Also the guy in law enforcement interviewed in the Tommy Burket segment.

Hmm there are a lot of witnesses that I did believe. One that stands out that some people may not agree with me on is Cecelia Newball's husband. He seemed genuine and I think she left willingly or met with foul play but I don't think he was involved.

Jediknight1823 · 03-05-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaldawn

One that stands out that some people may not agree with me on is Cecelia Newball's husband. He seemed genuine and I think she left willingly or met with foul play but I don't think he was involved.

I completely agree with you on that.

I know he's not a witness, but I 100% believe Tommy Zeigler.

justins5256 · 03-05-2009, 03:54 PM

Oh wow, UM has interviewed a lot of people over the years that I thought were lying.

Most obvious liars: CD mentioned most of them but I agree with her assessments of Chad Noe (and his family), Stephen Marfeo, Mark Nichols and Jule Caylor.

A few others I didn't believe were Larry Gibson and his wife, Sam Patel, Franklin Delano Floyd, G. Daniel Walker (seemed like he was playing mind games with the interviewer), Paul "I like a clean house" Polis and his whole family, Jerry "circlestantive evidence" Strickland, Glen Consagra, John Branion, Bob Hall, Stuart Heaton, Paul Ferrell, Judy Groezinger, "Katie" (although I wouldn't lump her in there with the criminals and scumbags, she was just an outright fraud), that government official who said there was no gold in Victoria Peak and that the government didn't take it, Chip Ricard.

Some people I believed wholeheartedly: Doyle Wheeler, Patricia Stallings and her husband, Johnny Lee Wilson, Michael Self, Luis Diaz, Tony Miller.

SP4CE INV4DERZ · 03-05-2009, 07:10 PM

I obviously do not believe the people I think are guilty on the final appeals.

A strong one yet to be added to the scumbag list is Donnie Hansen.

I think we can add Jeff Olberholzer (probably spelt that wrong) to the list of believeable people. I think Sarah Powell believes she was held at gunpoint but there are doubts as to weather it actually happened. Andre Jones' father seemed pretty real to me.

And finally, all the UFO and Ghost people. Some are believeable whilst others simply aren't.

ididn'tdoit · 03-05-2009, 07:57 PM

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Paul "I like a clean house" Polis and his whole family

Hey, thanks a lot! lol

VikingsGal · 03-05-2009, 09:28 PM

I believed the Dawaloby family and did not like the main investigstor.

I did not like any of the Polis family or her hubby. Her hubby was kinda gross but the mom was of Charlotte was a bit of an odd duck as well.

Chad Noe was full of crap.

The whole Wheeler family....what can you say about them?

HHorseman · 03-05-2009, 11:45 PM

I dont remember Chad Noe or Marc Nichols, would anyone possibly remember what the name of their segments were called?

People I thought sounded the most truthful the Cowboys from the Entity, the fisherman from the Cadborosaurus piece,and the Tatum's. People that stick in my mind the most as the least truthful the Tallman's,Colleen Ritter,the family from Lake Wales,and most defintly the flippers from England.

Apostapler · 03-06-2009, 04:51 AM

Hi all. I came to post Mark Nichols, suprise suprise he's already been posted by several! Stephen Marfeo creeped me out, I always thought he had this obsessed look in his eyes, which explained a lot once he killed himself after that crazy double murder. Jenny Pratt's (the 2X4 attack) boyfriend was completely transparent and shady.

Chad Noe was an unfortunate interview. It's painful to watch someone who is both lying and unintelligent.

crystaldawn · 03-06-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HHorseman

I dont remember Chad Noe or Marc Nichols, would anyone possibly remember what the name of their segments were called?

The segment with Mark Nichols on it was about his wife Christi Nichols disappearance. Chad Noe's segment was about his ex who went missing along with the ex's daughter and sister-in-law. Their names were Wendy Camp, Cynthia Britto and Lisa Kregear.

Jediknight1823 · 03-06-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by justins5256

Chip Ricard

Holy Macadamia Nut! I completely forgot about Chip Ricard and his "They were doing all kinds of satanic stuff" interview.

Brianna3 · 03-06-2009, 09:09 PM

The man whose mother went to the casino and disapeared - he had that weird hairstyle - I always thought something weird and dishonest about him;
Larry Gibson and his wife (ugh!)

MegtheEgg86 · 03-07-2009, 04:34 AM

They've been mentioned previously, but I believed Doyle Wheeler and Jeff Oberholtzer from the start, as well as Curtis Heck, Tommy Zaino (I don't really buy the satanic cult angle, but I do believe David Berkowitz didn't act alone), and the state trooper in the Kathy Bonderson case in his assessment of what happened that night (as opposed to the county officer's). The most unbelievable person in the history of UM, IMO, is Don Dixon. I'm 99.9% certain that entire story about happening upon Eric Tamiyasu's body is a total crock.

HHorseman · 03-07-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaldawn

The segment with Mark Nichols on it was about his wife Christi Nichols disappearance. Chad Noe's segment was about his ex who went missing along with the ex's daughter and sister-in-law. Their names were Wendy Camp, Cynthia Britto and Lisa Kregear.

Thank you kindly.

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The most unbelievable person in the history of UM, IMO, is Don Dixon. I'm 99.9% certain that entire story about happening upon Eric Tamiyasu's body is a total crock.

Man no kidding I forgot that creep.

kadrmas15 · 03-07-2009, 06:20 PM

I believe Tommy Zeigler, Doyle Wheeler, Jeff Oberholtzer, Johnny Lee Wilson, Rolando Cruz, Luis Diaz, North Dakota State Trooper William Byram (Kathy Bonderson case) to name a few.

I do not believe, Mark Nichols, Chad Noe and his entire slimeball family, Jule Caylor, Ed Walters and his whole gang of UFO 'sight seers' Paul Pollis, Jim Harrison, Steve (that dude whose wife disappeared in Texas) Even though they did not appear on camera, Rob Bonderson, Rob Page, Michael Haim.

03-05-2009, 02:06 AM	#1
HHorseman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 23, 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 218	Who did you most believe and not believe Who were the witnesses that you most believed and didnt believe when they were being interviewed.

03-05-2009, 03:54 PM	#4
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Oh wow, UM has interviewed a lot of people over the years that I thought were lying. Most obvious liars: CD mentioned most of them but I agree with her assessments of Chad Noe (and his family), Stephen Marfeo, Mark Nichols and Jule Caylor. A few others I didn't believe were Larry Gibson and his wife, Sam Patel, Franklin Delano Floyd, G. Daniel Walker (seemed like he was playing mind games with the interviewer), Paul "I like a clean house" Polis and his whole family, Jerry "circlestantive evidence" Strickland, Glen Consagra, John Branion, Bob Hall, Stuart Heaton, Paul Ferrell, Judy Groezinger, "Katie" (although I wouldn't lump her in there with the criminals and scumbags, she was just an outright fraud), that government official who said there was no gold in Victoria Peak and that the government didn't take it, Chip Ricard. Some people I believed wholeheartedly: Doyle Wheeler, Patricia Stallings and her husband, Johnny Lee Wilson, Michael Self, Luis Diaz, Tony Miller.
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03-05-2009, 11:45 PM	#8
HHorseman Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 23, 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 218	I dont remember Chad Noe or Marc Nichols, would anyone possibly remember what the name of their segments were called? People I thought sounded the most truthful the Cowboys from the Entity, the fisherman from the Cadborosaurus piece,and the Tatum's. People that stick in my mind the most as the least truthful the Tallman's,Colleen Ritter,the family from Lake Wales,and most defintly the flippers from England.
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03-07-2009, 04:34 AM	#13
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	They've been mentioned previously, but I believed Doyle Wheeler and Jeff Oberholtzer from the start, as well as Curtis Heck, Tommy Zaino (I don't really buy the satanic cult angle, but I do believe David Berkowitz didn't act alone), and the state trooper in the Kathy Bonderson case in his assessment of what happened that night (as opposed to the county officer's). The most unbelievable person in the history of UM, IMO, is Don Dixon. I'm 99.9% certain that entire story about happening upon Eric Tamiyasu's body is a total crock.
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03-05-2009, 08:23 AM	#2
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Well the ones I didn't believe right off were Chad Noe, Stephen Marfeo, Mark Nichols and Jule Caylor. Also the guy in law enforcement interviewed in the Tommy Burket segment. Hmm there are a lot of witnesses that I did believe. One that stands out that some people may not agree with me on is Cecelia Newball's husband. He seemed genuine and I think she left willingly or met with foul play but I don't think he was involved.

03-05-2009, 07:10 PM	#5
SP4CE INV4DERZ 40-0 0WN3D Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2004 Posts: 632	I obviously do not believe the people I think are guilty on the final appeals. A strong one yet to be added to the scumbag list is Donnie Hansen. I think we can add Jeff Olberholzer (probably spelt that wrong) to the list of believeable people. I think Sarah Powell believes she was held at gunpoint but there are doubts as to weather it actually happened. Andre Jones' father seemed pretty real to me. And finally, all the UFO and Ghost people. Some are believeable whilst others simply aren't.

03-05-2009, 09:28 PM	#7
VikingsGal Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 05, 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 202	I believed the Dawaloby family and did not like the main investigstor. I did not like any of the Polis family or her hubby. Her hubby was kinda gross but the mom was of Charlotte was a bit of an odd duck as well. Chad Noe was full of crap. The whole Wheeler family....what can you say about them?

03-06-2009, 04:51 AM	#9
Apostapler Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 06, 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 872	Hi all. I came to post Mark Nichols, suprise suprise he's already been posted by several! Stephen Marfeo creeped me out, I always thought he had this obsessed look in his eyes, which explained a lot once he killed himself after that crazy double murder. Jenny Pratt's (the 2X4 attack) boyfriend was completely transparent and shady. Chad Noe was an unfortunate interview. It's painful to watch someone who is both lying and unintelligent.

03-06-2009, 09:09 PM	#12
Brianna3 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 25, 2009 Location: california Posts: 20	The man whose mother went to the casino and disapeared - he had that weird hairstyle - I always thought something weird and dishonest about him; Larry Gibson and his wife (ugh!)

03-07-2009, 06:20 PM	#15
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	I believe Tommy Zeigler, Doyle Wheeler, Jeff Oberholtzer, Johnny Lee Wilson, Rolando Cruz, Luis Diaz, North Dakota State Trooper William Byram (Kathy Bonderson case) to name a few. I do not believe, Mark Nichols, Chad Noe and his entire slimeball family, Jule Caylor, Ed Walters and his whole gang of UFO 'sight seers' Paul Pollis, Jim Harrison, Steve (that dude whose wife disappeared in Texas) Even though they did not appear on camera, Rob Bonderson, Rob Page, Michael Haim.