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MickeyMac · 03-04-2009, 06:30 PM

1963-John Kennedy

1965-Malcolm X

1968-Both Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy

The Vietnam War

segregation, racial violence and the riots.

Drugs.

TripperFan · 03-04-2009, 06:38 PM

My biggest memory of the 60s was the Vietnam War. You saw pictures of the fighting just about nightly, peppered with all the protests. It really tore America apart which was so sad to see.

Yes, I was against the war, but never would have put down a soldier or a vet. Each one was left more of a victim than anyone. Imagine being forced to go to war (the draft), to have to do horrible things over there and then to come back and be spit upon by your own people. No one ever deserves to be treated like that and I can understand their lifelong struggle with it since.

The music from the 60s was fantastic, but I sure don't remember it as a good decade. Seemed everytime you turned around something awful in the world was happening. I think that's why we seemed to go "so laid back" in the 70s. We all needed a break from the stress.

I also blame the war for the increase in drug use.

Sharop · 03-04-2009, 07:01 PM

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It really tore America apart which was so sad to see.

I do think though, that there was also a sense of people banding together in the 1960s. I know there were some negative things about the hippie movement and that not all hippies were in fact, gentle, peace-loving souls.

Bu the hippies who genuinely were all for love and peace...I've always liked and admired that and the sense that they were pulling together with their fellow man.

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The music from the 60s was fantastic, but I sure don't remember it as a good decade.

I think that, event-wise, the decade wasn't always great, but that culturally and fashion-wise, with respect to music, films, TV, etc, that it was really great.

What I'm saying is, if one ignored the war and the various political troubles and focused instead on the pop culture, it would be mostly good.

I do like the fact that some progress was made in the 1960s though.

And in 1967, that memorable year, the Bee Gees released their first proper album - Barry was 20 and Robin and Maurice were 17. They'd previously been releasing songs in Australia from 1963. (Although they're British, the family emigrated to Australia in 1958 and returned at the beginning of 1967.)

Big C · 03-04-2009, 08:06 PM

The entire year of 1968- too much violence

TripperFan · 03-05-2009, 01:06 PM

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The entire year of 1968- too much violence

That's the one that stands out most for me and I think overshadowed so much of the rest of the decade.

The early 60s not so bad (other than the murder of JFK). I remember 1967 as not so bad. It was Canada's Centennial year so lots was going on and our family did pull together and worked on projects as a team. I liked that part. But yah, from 1968 onward it just seemed like everytime you turned around something horrible was happening. Bobby Kennedy, MLK jr., the war. Our innocence was lost. Then 1969 had some highlights - the Moon landing and Woodstock. That year stood out for me for a long time. I do remember it making me look so forward to the 70s. It seemed like we were heading into this "space age" and great things were on the horizon.

It would have been very interesting to see what it would have been like had there been no war in Vietnam during that time. I can picture the U.S. piling even more money into the space program and technology. That's the sad thing with war - it sucks so much out of the economy that even if a country ends up being the "victor", they really have still lost because those billions of dollars could have gone to medical, technological, industrial developments etc.. That's why to me, in a war, nobody is ever the "winner".

catlover79 · 03-05-2009, 02:13 PM

I don't think I could add to what you fine folks have contributed to this thread. Great observations!!

Chocoholic · 03-05-2009, 04:29 PM

I wasn't born yet

MickeyMac · 03-05-2009, 07:48 PM

For Detroit 1967 was the beginnng of the end. That year they had one of the worst riots in history. Crime gradually went up and people told me that things were never the same and people were more tense. Not too long after that Berry Gordy began to gradually move Motown to Hollywood.

Penny Lane · 03-06-2009, 01:48 PM

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The entire year of 1968- too much violence

It's all in how one looks at things.

1968 was a monumental year for me! I graduated, met my husband, got engaged , got married, "Hey Jude" was recorded, and the Detroit Tigers won the World Series! YAY 68!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side Note; RFK was shot on my graduation day.

D-Dey · 03-06-2009, 01:53 PM

As bad as the Vietnam War was, the popularity of enemy propaganda siding with the NVA and their goons in the Viet Cong, Pathet Lao, and Khmer Rouge was much worse. Someday, somehow, people are going to have to realize America was on the right side all along.

TripperFan · 03-06-2009, 02:07 PM

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As bad as the Vietnam War was, the popularity of enemy propaganda siding with the NVA and their goons in the Viet Cong, Pathet Lao, and Khmer Rouge was much worse. Someday, somehow, people are going to have to realize America was on the right side all along.

Nobody's saying America wasn't on the "right" side and I don't think anyone thought that at the time even (other than Jane Fonda maybe).

It's just it was a horrible war in the fact that it was probably a losing battle all along and it split the American people at home. And what's worse, it didn't stop the North from overtaking the south anyway.

The other thing that was horrible about the 60s was the home decorating! I still can't get the vision of "scalloped" green or gold carpeting out of my head! And the couches from the 60s were oogly and uncomfortable! lol
I hate the "retro" look that's out now bringing it all back again. It was bad then and even worse now!!

catlover79 · 03-06-2009, 02:40 PM

^ I have to agree with the home decor. Those are some of the ugliest patterns/colors imaginable.

catlover79 · 03-06-2009, 02:41 PM

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I wasn't born yet

Same here!!

D-Dey · 03-06-2009, 03:22 PM

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Nobody's saying America wasn't on the "right" side and I don't think anyone thought that at the time even (other than Jane Fonda maybe).

A lot more than just Jane Fonda. Plenty of so-called "anti-war" demonstrations contained Viet Cong, and other communist flags. They sided with America's enemies. They fell for the lie that the VC/PL/CPK were "innocent victims" of evil America, and that was a lie!

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It's just it was a horrible war in the fact that it was probably a losing battle all along and it split the American people at home. And what's worse, it didn't stop the North from overtaking the south anyway.

That's because too many people fell for the communist propaganda. And once the reds took over the rest of Indochina, and every other red army got the message they could kill whoever they wanted and nobody would stop them as long as they said it was "for the people," "againat western imperialism" and other BS like that, they showed their true colors. Yet 34 years after the Fall of Saigon and the start of the Khmer Rouge genocide, they still haven't caught on.

BTW, I wanted to start a whole new thread celebrating my 1600th post, which would've included images related to 16, but I couldn't find all the images I was looking for.

MickeyMac · 03-06-2009, 05:16 PM

I'll try not to get too political here, but its a tragedy the way we treated our soldiers who went to Vietnam. This country still owes them an apology. Whether people were for or against the war, the soldiers should not have been blamed, they were just doing what their country called them to do.

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03-06-2009, 05:16 PM	#15
MickeyMac Member Forum Star Join Date: Jun 18, 2008 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 19,006	I'll try not to get too political here, but its a tragedy the way we treated our soldiers who went to Vietnam. This country still owes them an apology. Whether people were for or against the war, the soldiers should not have been blamed, they were just doing what their country called them to do.