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Janine the Dream · 03-04-2009, 02:26 PM

Is there a site or at least a listing that shows what episodes are on what DVD's? I see a large amount of DVD's listed on EBAY, but many do not tell what episodes are on them.

honeybea · 03-04-2009, 02:41 PM

I doubt there's a master list anywhere and it sure is frustrating that the episodes aren't listed. Sales would be much better if they would list the episodes.

Goldilocks · 03-04-2009, 02:52 PM

So, are all the episodes officially on DVD? What is it...435 or something like that?

Wow. You could watch an episode of O&H everyday for a year and still wouldn't have seen them all.

MickeyMac · 03-04-2009, 06:01 PM

Why didnt they put this show out season by season like with other shows?

Lee G · 03-04-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeyMac

Why didnt they put this show out season by season like with other shows?

Exactly. This is why I haven't bought any O & H DVD's yet. I'm not a fan of sets with selected episodes from the various seasons. Also, some of the DVD episodes in these sets are uncut while others are not. I am waiting for all the seasons with all uncut episodes. Perhaps that will never happen, but that's what I'm hoping for.

Jude The Obscure · 03-04-2009, 11:01 PM

The series itself was never syndicated in its entirety, some episodes have not seen the light of day since their original primetime airings. Who knows if all 400+ episodes exist in their entirety. I'm glad that we do have what we have from the Mill Creek and the Shout! sets......maybe one day the Nelson heirs will discover the other episodes and decide to release them.

MickeyMac · 03-05-2009, 07:30 PM

Lets hope all episodes of this show exists and they put this out right. Season by season.

esl · 03-06-2009, 05:30 AM

It is interesting that a show as popular as this was never syndicated in its entirety. Even during its original broadcast some episodes were never rebroadcast. That means that there are some shows from the first season (1952) which have never been seen as of then. Those truly are the “lost” episodes.

In the best of all worlds the master negatives for every episode is stored in some deep vault, temperature controlled, so as to minimize any decay. (If you have seen any of the recent releases of Perry Mason which used the master negatives as the source, just marvel at the detail and sharpness of the image that 50-year-old black-and-white film can still have.)

My concern is that recent releases of episodes approved by the only surviving member, David, are not in the best of condition. It gives me pause that even the best source material is not in great condition.

Janine the Dream · 03-06-2009, 09:54 AM

I have the new Perry Mason DVD's and they are sharp and clear as you mention. Ozzie was such a perfectionist, it is hard to believe he didn't perserve the negatives of all of the original shows.

MickeyMac · 03-06-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Janine the Dream

I have the new Perry Mason DVD's and they are sharp and clear as you mention. Ozzie was such a perfectionist, it is hard to believe he didn't perserve the negatives of all of the original shows.

Yeah I agree, him and Desi Arnez were like that in that aspact. I think it would take a network or a company to make contact with David and that could get the ball rolling.

Jude The Obscure · 03-07-2009, 01:22 AM

David, as much as I like him....only cared enough to release the edited syndicated Disney episodes.....maybe he doesn't have access to the original network masters.....who knows.....

esl · 03-07-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Janine the Dream

I have the new Perry Mason DVD's and they are sharp and clear as you mention. Ozzie was such a perfectionist, it is hard to believe he didn't perserve the negatives of all of the original shows.

Aye, there's the rub. Despite Ozzie's reputation as a perfectionist, I have never read or heard that master copies of all the episodes have been stored properly (or even exist). The sad fact is that even under the best conditions, film and tape(video or audio) does deteriorate eventually.

Transferring to digital formats(although not perfect) will at least extend the lives of older shows. I knew someone who worked for Capital Records and he said that the company was transferring everything (and he stressed everything) they had ever recorded to digital, evey if they had no immediate plans to release it in digital format. This way they could ensure that they still had decent copies of the source material even if the orignal tapes were destroyed. It is sad to think that recordings of music, TV shows or films in the life-times of many of us here are rotting away somewhere, never to be heard or seen in a decent quality again.

OK, pesamistic rant over.

OH Nuts! · 03-09-2009, 06:41 AM

There does not seem to be a complete collection anyplace. Even very avid collectors have only seemed to get up to or cross the threshhold of 300 eps.

While I generally like season by season rollouts, I haven't minded the random rollout of episodes for this series. It still gives a good cross-section and feel for the show - and its twists and turns over the yrs. But, of course, the more eps out there the better. And I hope that happens too. Given the immense # of eps that have been coming out on the DVD sets in the last year/year and a half, the availability of more eps looks promising. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

TeeVeeCloset · 03-09-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Janine the Dream

I have the new Perry Mason DVD's and they are sharp and clear as you mention. Ozzie was such a perfectionist, it is hard to believe he didn't perserve the negatives of all of the original shows.

Ozzie was a perfectionist and a great business man which begs the question as to why in the hell did the family and Ozzie let the copyright expire making the entire series fall into the public domain, keeping your copyright is basic 101.....so if they screwed up that...anything is possible.

Jude The Obscure · 03-12-2009, 10:52 PM

At least two or three episodes on this last Shout! set appeared to have never been in syndication or reran on Disney, giving the fact the episodes end without that (c)1985 Harriet H. Nelson, individually and as proprietor of the Oswald Nelson Trust, etc tag that was seen after every episode reran on Disney. I'm not saying they NEVER were syndicated--it just appears to be that way. Also several episodes simply start with the title card "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" which were obviously edited from the sponsor openings, so these episodes may have not seen syndication. But then again, I have seen myself at least two episodes in reruns in 1980 that had "The Adventures of the Nelson Family" title card used.

03-04-2009, 02:26 PM	#1
Janine the Dream Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 20, 2007 Location: Saddle Brook, NJ Posts: 642	Is there a master list of all O&H DVD's? Is there a site or at least a listing that shows what episodes are on what DVD's? I see a large amount of DVD's listed on EBAY, but many do not tell what episodes are on them.

03-06-2009, 05:30 AM	#8
esl Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2007 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 50	Is there a master list of all O&H DVD's? It is interesting that a show as popular as this was never syndicated in its entirety. Even during its original broadcast some episodes were never rebroadcast. That means that there are some shows from the first season (1952) which have never been seen as of then. Those truly are the “lost” episodes. In the best of all worlds the master negatives for every episode is stored in some deep vault, temperature controlled, so as to minimize any decay. (If you have seen any of the recent releases of Perry Mason which used the master negatives as the source, just marvel at the detail and sharpness of the image that 50-year-old black-and-white film can still have.) My concern is that recent releases of episodes approved by the only surviving member, David, are not in the best of condition. It gives me pause that even the best source material is not in great condition.

03-04-2009, 02:41 PM	#2
honeybea Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 06, 2005 Location: SC Posts: 503	I doubt there's a master list anywhere and it sure is frustrating that the episodes aren't listed. Sales would be much better if they would list the episodes.

03-04-2009, 02:52 PM	#3
Goldilocks Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 08, 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 693	So, are all the episodes officially on DVD? What is it...435 or something like that? Wow. You could watch an episode of O&H everyday for a year and still wouldn't have seen them all.

03-04-2009, 06:01 PM	#4
MickeyMac Member Forum Star Join Date: Jun 18, 2008 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 19,008	Why didnt they put this show out season by season like with other shows?

03-04-2009, 11:01 PM	#6
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,520	The series itself was never syndicated in its entirety, some episodes have not seen the light of day since their original primetime airings. Who knows if all 400+ episodes exist in their entirety. I'm glad that we do have what we have from the Mill Creek and the Shout! sets......maybe one day the Nelson heirs will discover the other episodes and decide to release them.

03-05-2009, 07:30 PM	#7
MickeyMac Member Forum Star Join Date: Jun 18, 2008 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 19,008	Lets hope all episodes of this show exists and they put this out right. Season by season.

03-06-2009, 09:54 AM	#9
Janine the Dream Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 20, 2007 Location: Saddle Brook, NJ Posts: 642	I have the new Perry Mason DVD's and they are sharp and clear as you mention. Ozzie was such a perfectionist, it is hard to believe he didn't perserve the negatives of all of the original shows.

03-07-2009, 01:22 AM	#11
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,520	David, as much as I like him....only cared enough to release the edited syndicated Disney episodes.....maybe he doesn't have access to the original network masters.....who knows.....

03-09-2009, 06:41 AM	#13
OH Nuts! Member Forum King Join Date: Feb 15, 2005 Posts: 133,383	There does not seem to be a complete collection anyplace. Even very avid collectors have only seemed to get up to or cross the threshhold of 300 eps. While I generally like season by season rollouts, I haven't minded the random rollout of episodes for this series. It still gives a good cross-section and feel for the show - and its twists and turns over the yrs. But, of course, the more eps out there the better. And I hope that happens too. Given the immense # of eps that have been coming out on the DVD sets in the last year/year and a half, the availability of more eps looks promising. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

03-12-2009, 10:52 PM	#15
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,520	At least two or three episodes on this last Shout! set appeared to have never been in syndication or reran on Disney, giving the fact the episodes end without that (c)1985 Harriet H. Nelson, individually and as proprietor of the Oswald Nelson Trust, etc tag that was seen after every episode reran on Disney. I'm not saying they NEVER were syndicated--it just appears to be that way. Also several episodes simply start with the title card "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" which were obviously edited from the sponsor openings, so these episodes may have not seen syndication. But then again, I have seen myself at least two episodes in reruns in 1980 that had "The Adventures of the Nelson Family" title card used.