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PunkyP0WER · 02-22-2009, 07:34 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090222/...t_woman_killed
Pa. boy, 11, accused of killing dad's girlfriend

Fifth-grader Jordan Brown boarded the bus and headed to school like he does most other mornings in this rural western Pennsylvania community.

But Friday was no typical morning. Before he left his rented farmhouse, authorities say, the 11-year-old fatally shot his father's pregnant fiancee in the back of the head as she lay in bed. He then put his youth model 20-gauge shotgun back in his room and went out to catch his bus, police say.

Brown was charged Saturday as an adult in the death of 26-year-old Kenzie Marie Houk, who was eight months pregnant, Lawrence County District Attorney John Bongivengo said. Houk's fetus died within minutes due to a lack of oxygen, Lawrence County Coroner Russell Noga said.

The death and charges against Brown caught family and friends by surprise and left Wampum, about 45 miles northwest of Pittsburgh, to ponder what would possess a boy to allegedly shoot someone.

Houk's family and friends, who gathered at her parents' house Saturday night, told The Associated Press that there had been past problems with the boy.

"He actually told my son that he wanted to do that to her," Houk's brother-in-law, Jason Kraner said. "There was an issue with jealousy."

Pennsylvania State Police found Houk's body after her 4-year-old daughter told tree cutters on the property she thought her mother was dead, Bongivengo said.

The boy told police there was a black truck on the property that morning — possibly the man who feeds the cows — sending investigators to follow a false lead for about five hours, Bongivengo said. Inconsistencies in Brown's description of the truck led police to re-interview Houk's 7-year-old daughter, who implicated the boy in the killing, Bongivengo said. State troopers came to get the boy at school.

"She didn't actually eyewitness the shooting. She saw him with what she believed to be a shotgun and heard a loud bang," Bongivengo said. The gun was found in a "location we believe to be in the defendant's bedroom."

Brown has been arraigned and was being held in the Lawrence County Jail, with a preliminary hearing scheduled for Thursday.

"An 11-year-old kid — what would give him the motive to shoot someone?" Houk's father Jack said. "Maybe he was just jealous of my daughter and the baby and thought he would be overpowered."

Defense attorney Dennis Elisco said he plans to ask Monday for the boy to be released on bail and for the case to moved to juvenile court. Elisco and police said they had no clear motive for the shooting.

Elisco said he is waiting to see physical evidence that ties his young client to the killing.

"I don't think he knows what's going on," he said. "I walked out of there thinking he was innocent. I believe Jordan did not do this."

The boy's father, Christopher Brown, is "a mess" and had no prior indication his son had a problem with Houk, Elisco said.

"He's in a state of actual shock and disbelief," he said.

The shotgun used is designed for children and has a shorter arm and such weapons do not have to be registered, Bongivengo said. Jack Houk, 57, said the boy and his father used to practice shooting behind their farmhouse, and the two enjoyed going hunting together

MrRetro_08 · 02-22-2009, 08:00 AM

That's just shocking!!!, some real crazy stuff.

catlover79 · 02-22-2009, 09:46 AM

SICK, SICK, SICK.

MickeyMac · 02-22-2009, 04:47 PM

He is only 11 so he is still a child, but when he turns 18 they should f**king fry him.

beautifuldreamer · 02-22-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeyMac

He is only 11 so he is still a child, but when he turns 18 they should f**king fry him.

As long as we're there, can we f**king fry the daddy too?... who gave his eleven year old a "child-sized shotgun"?? That's INSANE!!!

janet42 · 02-22-2009, 10:36 PM

That's horrible. What would make a kid do that?

OH Nuts! · 02-22-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by beautifuldreamer

As long as we're there, can we f**king fry the daddy too?... who gave his eleven year old a "child-sized shotgun"?? That's INSANE!!!

Well I feel really sorry for the dad BUT you raise a good point. Why was there a shotgun just lying around the house all loaded just waiting to be used??????? Scary very scary all of it - AND SAD!

Max Whittaker · 02-22-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkyP0WER

The shotgun used is designed for children and has a shorter arm and such weapons do not have to be registered...

Can someone explain to me the logic in this? Why not require them to register it?

catlover79 · 02-22-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Whittaker

Can someone explain to me the logic in this? Why not require them to register it?

Why are they making shotguns for kids to use in the first place???

Max Whittaker · 02-22-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

Why are they making shotguns for kids to use in the first place???

That one's easy... It's simply another excuse to make a buck.

catlover79 · 02-22-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Whittaker

That one's easy... It's simply another excuse to make a buck.

Why are they allowed to get away with it???

dawsongirl · 02-23-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by beautifuldreamer

As long as we're there, can we f**king fry the daddy too?... who gave his eleven year old a "child-sized shotgun"?? That's INSANE!!!

Why are there child-sized shotguns to start with??

Marvo301 · 02-23-2009, 01:16 AM

What a tragic situation! I'm appalled that there is even such a thing as a child size gun. Even if the gun is sized so a child can physically handle it there is no possible way a child could ever be emotionally prepared to handle the consequences of any tragedy that could result from firing such a gun. That is exactly what happened in this case. And now the lives of this family, the girlfriends family, and even the community is changed forever.(and most certainly not for the better). As I said to start with - tragic.

Zoneboy · 02-23-2009, 01:26 AM

Child-size = Happy meal not a friggin shotgun!

browneyes106 · 02-23-2009, 01:28 AM

I think maybe the kid was jealous of his girlfriend being pregnant and stuff. I feel for the victim's family.

02-22-2009, 07:34 AM	#1
PunkyP0WER Member Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2008 Location: MACY*S on 34th St. Posts: 1,908	11 yr. old boy kills dad's pregnant girlfriend http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090222/...t_woman_killed Pa. boy, 11, accused of killing dad's girlfriend Fifth-grader Jordan Brown boarded the bus and headed to school like he does most other mornings in this rural western Pennsylvania community. But Friday was no typical morning. Before he left his rented farmhouse, authorities say, the 11-year-old fatally shot his father's pregnant fiancee in the back of the head as she lay in bed. He then put his youth model 20-gauge shotgun back in his room and went out to catch his bus, police say. Brown was charged Saturday as an adult in the death of 26-year-old Kenzie Marie Houk, who was eight months pregnant, Lawrence County District Attorney John Bongivengo said. Houk's fetus died within minutes due to a lack of oxygen, Lawrence County Coroner Russell Noga said. The death and charges against Brown caught family and friends by surprise and left Wampum, about 45 miles northwest of Pittsburgh, to ponder what would possess a boy to allegedly shoot someone. Houk's family and friends, who gathered at her parents' house Saturday night, told The Associated Press that there had been past problems with the boy. "He actually told my son that he wanted to do that to her," Houk's brother-in-law, Jason Kraner said. "There was an issue with jealousy." Pennsylvania State Police found Houk's body after her 4-year-old daughter told tree cutters on the property she thought her mother was dead, Bongivengo said. The boy told police there was a black truck on the property that morning — possibly the man who feeds the cows — sending investigators to follow a false lead for about five hours, Bongivengo said. Inconsistencies in Brown's description of the truck led police to re-interview Houk's 7-year-old daughter, who implicated the boy in the killing, Bongivengo said. State troopers came to get the boy at school. "She didn't actually eyewitness the shooting. She saw him with what she believed to be a shotgun and heard a loud bang," Bongivengo said. The gun was found in a "location we believe to be in the defendant's bedroom." Brown has been arraigned and was being held in the Lawrence County Jail, with a preliminary hearing scheduled for Thursday. "An 11-year-old kid — what would give him the motive to shoot someone?" Houk's father Jack said. "Maybe he was just jealous of my daughter and the baby and thought he would be overpowered." Defense attorney Dennis Elisco said he plans to ask Monday for the boy to be released on bail and for the case to moved to juvenile court. Elisco and police said they had no clear motive for the shooting. Elisco said he is waiting to see physical evidence that ties his young client to the killing. "I don't think he knows what's going on," he said. "I walked out of there thinking he was innocent. I believe Jordan did not do this." The boy's father, Christopher Brown, is "a mess" and had no prior indication his son had a problem with Houk, Elisco said. "He's in a state of actual shock and disbelief," he said. The shotgun used is designed for children and has a shorter arm and such weapons do not have to be registered, Bongivengo said. Jack Houk, 57, said the boy and his father used to practice shooting behind their farmhouse, and the two enjoyed going hunting together
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02-22-2009, 08:00 AM	#2
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02-22-2009, 09:46 AM	#3
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02-23-2009, 01:16 AM	#13
Marvo301 I'm NOT a Blockhead! Forum Celebrity Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 21,460	What a tragic situation! I'm appalled that there is even such a thing as a child size gun. Even if the gun is sized so a child can physically handle it there is no possible way a child could ever be emotionally prepared to handle the consequences of any tragedy that could result from firing such a gun. That is exactly what happened in this case. And now the lives of this family, the girlfriends family, and even the community is changed forever.(and most certainly not for the better). As I said to start with - tragic.
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02-22-2009, 04:47 PM	#4
MickeyMac Member Forum Star Join Date: Jun 18, 2008 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 19,008	He is only 11 so he is still a child, but when he turns 18 they should f**king fry him.

02-22-2009, 10:36 PM	#6
janet42 Three's Company Fan! Senior Member Join Date: Feb 22, 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,757	That's horrible. What would make a kid do that?

02-23-2009, 01:26 AM	#14
Zoneboy RIP, I'LL NEVER FORGET YOU :( Moderator Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 13, 2003 Location: AT HOME WISHING ALL THIS WAS JUST A DREAM AND THAT I'LL WAKE UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE. Posts: 34,434	Child-size = Happy meal not a friggin shotgun!

02-23-2009, 01:28 AM	#15
browneyes106 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 01, 2008 Posts: 6,094	I think maybe the kid was jealous of his girlfriend being pregnant and stuff. I feel for the victim's family.