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Janice · 02-12-2009, 02:44 PM

Octuplets' Mom Seeks Donations Online

Plus, Taxpayers May Have to Help Cover Her Costs

NEW YORK (Feb. 11) - A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.

Meanwhile, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children.

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.

Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.

"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."

On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had and suggesting she be sterilized.

It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"

She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.

"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."

Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, urged understanding.

"I would just ask people to consider her situation and she has been under a tremendous amount of pressure that no one could be prepared for," Furtney said.
Furtney said he, Suleman and her family had received death threats and had been getting messages that were "disgusting things that would never be proper to put in any story."

In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.

Her Web site features pictures of the mother and each octuplet, and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.

Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She told NBC one is autistic, another has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, known as ADHD, and a third experienced a mild speech delay with "tiny characteristics of autism." She refused to say how much they get in payments.

In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.

State Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, an oral surgeon who sits on the Health Committee, said that once a state Medical Board investigation is complete, lawmakers could review issues from government oversight to standards in fertility treatment.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. She said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

Fourteen states, including California, require insurance companies to offer or provide coverage for infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California has a law specifically excluding in vitro coverage. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.

In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She already owes $50,000 in student loans, she told NBC. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.

On the Net: http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com

Chocoholic · 02-12-2009, 04:35 PM

Clearly, she knows how to play the system.

catlover79 · 02-12-2009, 04:38 PM

We all knew this was coming. What a leech.

sunshinefizzy · 02-12-2009, 06:47 PM

I think these doinkheads from social services need to wake the frig up and tend to this situation. This is not cool.

Marvo301 · 02-12-2009, 07:00 PM

Last night on His show, Jay Leno suggested everyone donate birth control pills to her!

Zoneboy · 02-12-2009, 07:01 PM

Having fourteen babies wasn't free
They were conceived without the birds and bees
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

All these kids give me a thrill
And you can help pay my bills
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

I need money, You know it's true
That is why I'm begging you
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

I need money, You know it's true
That is why I'm begging you
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

Well, now give me money (that's what I want)
A lot of money (that's what I want)
Whoa, yeah, I wanna be free (that's what I want)
Whoa, a lot of money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

Well, now give me money (that's what I want)
A lot of money (that's what I want)
Whoa, yeah, you owe me money (that's what I want)
Oh, now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want.

TJL · 02-12-2009, 07:04 PM

So, I guess those book, movie and TV deals haven't rolled in like she thought they would.

icecream · 02-12-2009, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvo301

Last night on His show, Jay Leno suggested everyone donate birth control pills to her!

dawsongirl · 02-12-2009, 08:51 PM

ADHD is enough of a disability to warrant disability payments?????? WTF???

I agree with that radio guy...adopt these kids out.

catlover79 · 02-12-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvo301

Last night on His show, Jay Leno suggested everyone donate birth control pills to her!

catlover79 · 02-12-2009, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoneboy

Having fourteen babies wasn't free
They were conceived without the birds and bees
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

All these kids give me a thrill
And you can help pay my bills
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

I need money, You know it's true
That is why I'm begging you
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

I need money, You know it's true
That is why I'm begging you
Now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

Well, now give me money (that's what I want)
A lot of money (that's what I want)
Whoa, yeah, I wanna be free (that's what I want)
Whoa, a lot of money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want

Well, now give me money (that's what I want)
A lot of money (that's what I want)
Whoa, yeah, you owe me money (that's what I want)
Oh, now give me money (that's what I want)
That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah
That's what I want.

browneyes106 · 02-13-2009, 02:01 AM

She is pandering online,

catlover79 · 02-13-2009, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by browneyes106

She is pandering online,

Look up "panhandling" and her picture will be right next to it!!

browneyes106 · 02-13-2009, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catlover79

Look up "panhandling" and her picture will be right next to it!!

LOL I know. Online pandering happens a lot. There have been cases of people getting donations online to pay off debts and other things.

catlover79 · 02-13-2009, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by browneyes106

LOL I know. Online pandering happens a lot. There have been cases of people getting donations online to pay off debts and other things.

I refused to watch that Dateline interview because I didn't want this woman to get more attention. My mom said I was wise and wished she'd done the same thing.

02-12-2009, 02:44 PM	#1
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Octuplets' Mom Seeks Donations Online Octuplets' Mom Seeks Donations Online Plus, Taxpayers May Have to Help Cover Her Costs NEW YORK (Feb. 11) - A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red. Meanwhile, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family. Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed. Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb. "It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque." On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had and suggesting she be sterilized. It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?" She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother. "From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out." Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, urged understanding. "I would just ask people to consider her situation and she has been under a tremendous amount of pressure that no one could be prepared for," Furtney said. Furtney said he, Suleman and her family had received death threats and had been getting messages that were "disgusting things that would never be proper to put in any story." In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long. Her Web site features pictures of the mother and each octuplet, and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card. Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She told NBC one is autistic, another has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, known as ADHD, and a third experienced a mild speech delay with "tiny characteristics of autism." She refused to say how much they get in payments. In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379. The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million. For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care. State Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, an oral surgeon who sits on the Health Committee, said that once a state Medical Board investigation is complete, lawmakers could review issues from government oversight to standards in fertility treatment. Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year. Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. She said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000. Fourteen states, including California, require insurance companies to offer or provide coverage for infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California has a law specifically excluding in vitro coverage. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has. In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She already owes $50,000 in student loans, she told NBC. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers. On the Net: http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com

02-12-2009, 04:38 PM	#3
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02-12-2009, 07:00 PM	#5
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02-12-2009, 07:04 PM	#7
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02-12-2009, 04:35 PM	#2
Chocoholic Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 11,235	Clearly, she knows how to play the system.

02-12-2009, 06:47 PM	#4
sunshinefizzy Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 27, 2006 Location: Craptown Posts: 2,054	I think these doinkheads from social services need to wake the frig up and tend to this situation. This is not cool.

02-12-2009, 07:01 PM	#6
Zoneboy RIP, I'LL NEVER FORGET YOU :( Moderator Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 13, 2003 Location: AT HOME WISHING ALL THIS WAS JUST A DREAM AND THAT I'LL WAKE UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE. Posts: 34,416	Having fourteen babies wasn't free They were conceived without the birds and bees Now give me money (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah That's what I want All these kids give me a thrill And you can help pay my bills Now give me money (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah That's what I want I need money, You know it's true That is why I'm begging you Now give me money (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah That's what I want I need money, You know it's true That is why I'm begging you Now give me money (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah That's what I want Well, now give me money (that's what I want) A lot of money (that's what I want) Whoa, yeah, I wanna be free (that's what I want) Whoa, a lot of money (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah That's what I want Well, now give me money (that's what I want) A lot of money (that's what I want) Whoa, yeah, you owe me money (that's what I want) Oh, now give me money (that's what I want) That's what I want (that's what I want), yeah That's what I want.

02-12-2009, 08:51 PM	#9
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,140	ADHD is enough of a disability to warrant disability payments?????? WTF??? I agree with that radio guy...adopt these kids out.

02-13-2009, 02:01 AM	#12
browneyes106 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 01, 2008 Posts: 6,094	She is pandering online,