Cases where killer's family helped cover up crimes? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

radiohead33 · 01-30-2009, 10:44 PM

Its quite obvious that Paul Pollis' mom helped cover up the crime, just based on her behavior on UM, she clearly helped in some manner.

What other cases do the families of the killers also look suspicious?

MegtheEgg86 · 01-31-2009, 12:00 AM

Chad Noe's family in the Wendy Camp segment, of course. Then again, maybe I'm just bitchin' and moanin'.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush · 01-31-2009, 01:13 AM

In my opinion, till someone tells the truth, the Ramseys did, do, and always will look suspicious. Patsy may have done most of it, but at some point John became part of it.

Mastermind · 01-31-2009, 11:41 AM

I guess Clarence Roberts (guy who died twice in two fires) would count. It was obvious that his wife Geneva helped him and perhaps some of his family as well.

Other one that comes to mind is the Thomas Gibson case (the police officer in Oregon that they had believed shot his son accidently mistaken him as a stray cat). His wife and indirectly his little daughter helped him in covering up.

MegtheEgg86 · 01-31-2009, 11:50 AM

Yeah, I'd totally forgotten about Clarence Roberts. I'm with you, Mastermind, and still say he was definitely the "mystery man" seen at Geneva's house, despite some apparent doubt in the segment.

Larry Gibson....

Umm...let's see...possibly the Baskins case? There's some new word that Debbie's siblings actually helped the Maples stay in hiding all those years.

MegtheEgg86 · 01-31-2009, 12:24 PM

Just thought of another one---the ATV murders. Sometime in the '90s Frank Casteel's wife had written letters to Casteel's mistress detailing the murders (that she until that point had kept secret) in an attempt to get Frank to end the extra-marital affair. Of course, when Casteel was caught and put on trial, she said she'd made the whole thing up.

If I'm not mistaken, I think she was the woman at "the gate" turning people around that night, as well.

VikingsGal · 01-31-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cori aka ChrisSCrush

In my opinion, till someone tells the truth, the Ramseys did, do, and always will look suspicious. Patsy may have done most of it, but at some point John became part of it.

Were they ever featured on UM?

But there was a case of a dude who was arrested for drunk driving and whike he was in th hospital for injuries his family snuck him ou of the hospital. I could be wrong about it being UM though! I am not as crack about these details, though.

justins5256 · 01-31-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VikingsGal

Were they ever featured on UM?

The Ramseys were featured. I remember seeing it years ago when UM was on NBC, but it's apparently one of those "never shown on Lifetime" segments.

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Originally Posted by VikingsGal

But there was a case of a dude who was arrested for drunk driving and whike he was in th hospital for injuries his family snuck him ou of the hospital. I could be wrong about it being UM though! I am not as crack about these details, though.

Yes, I believe his name was James White. The case was featured in early '92.

PracTz · 01-31-2009, 07:27 PM

Mrs. Casteel vainly denied having any knowledge of the murders on the stand but her poison pen notes to the mistress were enough for the prosecution to get Frank convicted by the jury. While many believe Mrs. Casteel to have been 'the woman at the gate', that individual has never officially been identified. Why Mrs. Casteel wasn't charged with being an accessory,accomplice or even purjory, I've never understood!

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Originally Posted by MegtheEgg86

Just thought of another one---the ATV murders. Sometime in the '90s Frank Casteel's wife had written letters to Casteel's mistress detailing the murders (that she until that point had kept secret) in an attempt to get Frank to end the extra-marital affair. Of course, when Casteel was caught and put on trial, she said she'd made the whole thing up.

If I'm not mistaken, I think she was the woman at "the gate" turning people around that night, as well.

Marcos19 · 02-01-2009, 01:39 AM

Another possible example is the Danny Pinetta case. He was the 19 year-old track star who raped his then 13 year-old girlfriend, Nanette Brana. After he raped Brana, his family tried to get her family to drop the charges through constant harassment. Not only that, but they helped Danny elude capture in Pennsylvania and escape, until he was later caught in Puerto Rico.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush · 02-01-2009, 04:45 AM

Yeah, and the preppy rapist, where the reenactment showed him restraining the victim while knocking back the car seat. His family helped him hide on vacation in Europe for years.

Jediknight1823 · 02-01-2009, 05:44 AM

What about that kid in Florida, Dimitric? It's obvious that the kids bullying him that day killed him accidentally, and one of the parents helped to cover it up.

Obi Wan · 02-01-2009, 05:09 PM

Kevin Coe, South Hill rapist.

Necco · 02-01-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cori aka ChrisSCrush

Yeah, and the preppy rapist, where the reenactment showed him restraining the victim while knocking back the car seat. His family helped him hide on vacation in Europe for years.

That'd be Alex Kelly. Unfortunately, he's out of jail now. He's still living with his parents in the same community he terrorized.

Also, the suspect in the Kristin Smart case is largely thought to have been aided by his parents.

Obi Wan · 02-01-2009, 05:49 PM

Good article on th Charley Project regarding the Smart Case.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...t_kristin.html

01-30-2009, 10:44 PM	#1
radiohead33 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 23, 2007 Posts: 105	Cases where killer's family helped cover up crimes? Its quite obvious that Paul Pollis' mom helped cover up the crime, just based on her behavior on UM, she clearly helped in some manner. What other cases do the families of the killers also look suspicious?

01-31-2009, 12:00 AM	#2
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	Chad Noe's family in the Wendy Camp segment, of course. Then again, maybe I'm just bitchin' and moanin'.
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02-01-2009, 05:09 PM	#13
Obi Wan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 30, 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 65	Kevin Coe, South Hill rapist.
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01-31-2009, 01:13 AM	#3
Cori aka ChrisSCrush Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 30, 2001 Location: USA and still trying to be proud of it! Posts: 2,071	In my opinion, till someone tells the truth, the Ramseys did, do, and always will look suspicious. Patsy may have done most of it, but at some point John became part of it.

01-31-2009, 11:41 AM	#4
Mastermind Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1,843	I guess Clarence Roberts (guy who died twice in two fires) would count. It was obvious that his wife Geneva helped him and perhaps some of his family as well. Other one that comes to mind is the Thomas Gibson case (the police officer in Oregon that they had believed shot his son accidently mistaken him as a stray cat). His wife and indirectly his little daughter helped him in covering up.

01-31-2009, 11:50 AM	#5
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	Yeah, I'd totally forgotten about Clarence Roberts. I'm with you, Mastermind, and still say he was definitely the "mystery man" seen at Geneva's house, despite some apparent doubt in the segment. Larry Gibson.... Umm...let's see...possibly the Baskins case? There's some new word that Debbie's siblings actually helped the Maples stay in hiding all those years.

01-31-2009, 12:24 PM	#6
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	Just thought of another one---the ATV murders. Sometime in the '90s Frank Casteel's wife had written letters to Casteel's mistress detailing the murders (that she until that point had kept secret) in an attempt to get Frank to end the extra-marital affair. Of course, when Casteel was caught and put on trial, she said she'd made the whole thing up. If I'm not mistaken, I think she was the woman at "the gate" turning people around that night, as well.

02-01-2009, 01:39 AM	#10
Marcos19 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 17, 2009 Location: California Posts: 19	Another possible example is the Danny Pinetta case. He was the 19 year-old track star who raped his then 13 year-old girlfriend, Nanette Brana. After he raped Brana, his family tried to get her family to drop the charges through constant harassment. Not only that, but they helped Danny elude capture in Pennsylvania and escape, until he was later caught in Puerto Rico.

02-01-2009, 04:45 AM	#11
Cori aka ChrisSCrush Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 30, 2001 Location: USA and still trying to be proud of it! Posts: 2,071	Yeah, and the preppy rapist, where the reenactment showed him restraining the victim while knocking back the car seat. His family helped him hide on vacation in Europe for years.

02-01-2009, 05:44 AM	#12
Jediknight1823 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 283	What about that kid in Florida, Dimitric? It's obvious that the kids bullying him that day killed him accidentally, and one of the parents helped to cover it up.

02-01-2009, 05:49 PM	#15
Obi Wan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 30, 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 65	Good article on th Charley Project regarding the Smart Case. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...t_kristin.html