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Waterston_Fan · 01-16-2009, 07:07 PM

Just saw this and did a search so I can give the link.

Bye Bye, Chucky!!

Published: January 16, 2009

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers today announced that they have dismissed head coach Jon Gruden and General Manager Bruce Allen, according a two-paragraph release on the Bucs' web site.

"We will be forever grateful to Jon for bringing us the Super Bowl title, and we thank Bruce for his contributions to our franchise," said Buccaneers Co-Chairman Joel Glazer in the announcement. "However after careful consideration, we feel that this decision is in the best interest of our organization moving forward."

TVFactFan · 01-16-2009, 07:09 PM

I don't think anyone is surprised since he decided to go with Jeff Garcia over Brian Griese which caused the COLLASPE from 9-3 to 9-7

He deserved to be fired

bandito · 01-16-2009, 08:18 PM

Jeff Garcia is 10 times the Quarterback Greise is.

TVFactFan · 01-16-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bandito

Jeff Garcia is 10 times the Quarterback Greise is.

Well explain the 9-3 to 9-7 collaspe if Garcia is so good.

bandito · 01-16-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

Well explain the 9-3 to 9-7 collaspe if Garcia is so good.

Garcia isn't the only player on the team. I;m not saying Garcia is a great Qb, but he's better than Brian Greise.

TVFactFan · 01-16-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bandito

Garcia isn't the only player on the team. I;m not saying Garcia is a great Qb, but he's better than Brian Greise.

well he is gone for sure now

GARFIELDKOOL · 01-16-2009, 08:50 PM

I didn't see this one coming either, but it is time for a change in Tampa Bay.

TVFactFan · 01-16-2009, 08:56 PM

This is why Gruden was fired, since winning the SB here is what happened

2003 season-no playoffs
2004 season-no playoffs
2005 season-1st round playoff lost to skins
2006-no playoffs
2007-1st round playoff lost to giants
2008-no playoffs after 9-3

So after looking at that no one should be surprised

DVDFreaker · 01-16-2009, 10:00 PM

I am not suprised, Jon won the Superbowl with Dungy's players and now he either doesn't make the playoffs or lose in the first round of the playoffs, he is a terrible coach

TVFactFan · 01-16-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DVDFreaker

I am not suprised, Jon won the Superbowl with Dungy's players and now he either doesn't make the playoffs or lose in the first round of the playoffs, he is a terrible coach

Exactly. This is the some satisfication I get for the Eagles making the playoffs this year. All because of him

mriggles · 01-17-2009, 12:10 AM

I think Gruden did a great job especially in the last 10 minutes of the last game!!!

Thanks Chucky!!!!!

Zoneboy · 01-17-2009, 03:28 AM

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jan...b/sports-bucs/

Dusty's Fan · 01-17-2009, 03:40 PM

I'm not a Buccaneers fan, but IMHO you don't fire a head coach who won a Super Bowl for you -- period. How many current, active head coaches have won one? Only Belichick, Coughlin, and a not even a couple others now that Gruden has been canned and Dungy has resigned. I'm sorry Tampa Bay fans, but for your team to return to the Super Bowl, canning a proven head coach is not the answer.

Look at the history of franchises post-SB won:

No Super Bowl wins for Chicago after Ditka.
No Super Bowl wins for St. Louis after Vermeil
No Super Bowl wins for Miami after Shula
No Super Bowl wins for Pittsburgh after Cowher
Only one Super Bowl win for Dallas immediately after J. Johnson

And there have been no Super Bowl appearances for Buffalo after Levy

I'm not saying that these teams had poor coaches after those listed, but don't you think in each case they would have been better off with these coaches staying on? The Steelers are the only team still alive this year from my list.

I hope I'm wrong for your sake, but if you think the canning was a good move, you may change your mind over the years... Oh well, TB still has one of the sexiest cheerleading squads!

TVFactFan · 01-17-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty's Fan

I'm not a Buccaneers fan, but IMHO you don't fire a head coach who won a Super Bowl for you -- period. How many current, active head coaches have won one? Only Belichick, Coughlin, and a not even a couple others now that Gruden has been canned and Dungy has resigned. I'm sorry Tampa Bay fans, but for your team to return to the Super Bowl, canning a proven head coach is not the answer.

Look at the history of franchises post-SB won:

No Super Bowl wins for Chicago after Ditka.
No Super Bowl wins for St. Louis after Vermeil
No Super Bowl wins for Miami after Shula
No Super Bowl wins for Pittsburgh after Cowher
Only one Super Bowl win for Dallas immediately after J. Johnson

And there have been no Super Bowl appearances for Buffalo after Levy

I'm not saying that these teams had poor coaches after those listed, but don't you think in each case they would have been better off with these coaches staying on? The Steelers are the only team still alive this year from my list.

I hope I'm wrong for your sake, but if you think the canning was a good move, you may change your mind over the years... Oh well, TB still has one of the sexiest cheerleading squads!

I don't think you understand, after winning the SB the man has MISSED the playoffs 4 times and the two times he made the playofs his team was one and done. So it was time to go.

So according to you, if you win a SB as a headcoach he can just go 0-16 the next 6 years.

Waterston_Fan · 01-17-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty's Fan

I'm not a Buccaneers fan, but IMHO you don't fire a head coach who won a Super Bowl for you -- period. How many current, active head coaches have won one? Only Belichick, Coughlin, and a not even a couple others now that Gruden has been canned and Dungy has resigned. I'm sorry Tampa Bay fans, but for your team to return to the Super Bowl, canning a proven head coach is not the answer.

Look at the history of franchises post-SB won:

No Super Bowl wins for Chicago after Ditka.
No Super Bowl wins for St. Louis after Vermeil
No Super Bowl wins for Miami after Shula
No Super Bowl wins for Pittsburgh after Cowher
Only one Super Bowl win for Dallas immediately after J. Johnson

And there have been no Super Bowl appearances for Buffalo after Levy

I'm not saying that these teams had poor coaches after those listed, but don't you think in each case they would have been better off with these coaches staying on? The Steelers are the only team still alive this year from my list.

I hope I'm wrong for your sake, but if you think the canning was a good move, you may change your mind over the years... Oh well, TB still has one of the sexiest cheerleading squads!

Um... I gotta add something after the comment about Buffalo after Levy.
No Super Bowl appearance for San Diego after Ross left.

01-16-2009, 07:07 PM	#1
Waterston_Fan Eternal Member Eternal Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 26, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,195	Gruden and Allen been canned from Bucs!! Just saw this and did a search so I can give the link. Bye Bye, Chucky!! Published: January 16, 2009 The Tampa Bay Buccaneers today announced that they have dismissed head coach Jon Gruden and General Manager Bruce Allen, according a two-paragraph release on the Bucs' web site. "We will be forever grateful to Jon for bringing us the Super Bowl title, and we thank Bruce for his contributions to our franchise," said Buccaneers Co-Chairman Joel Glazer in the announcement. "However after careful consideration, we feel that this decision is in the best interest of our organization moving forward."

01-16-2009, 08:18 PM	#3
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01-17-2009, 03:40 PM	#13
Dusty's Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 13, 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,092	I'm not a Buccaneers fan, but IMHO you don't fire a head coach who won a Super Bowl for you -- period. How many current, active head coaches have won one? Only Belichick, Coughlin, and a not even a couple others now that Gruden has been canned and Dungy has resigned. I'm sorry Tampa Bay fans, but for your team to return to the Super Bowl, canning a proven head coach is not the answer. Look at the history of franchises post-SB won: No Super Bowl wins for Chicago after Ditka. No Super Bowl wins for St. Louis after Vermeil No Super Bowl wins for Miami after Shula No Super Bowl wins for Pittsburgh after Cowher Only one Super Bowl win for Dallas immediately after J. Johnson And there have been no Super Bowl appearances for Buffalo after Levy I'm not saying that these teams had poor coaches after those listed, but don't you think in each case they would have been better off with these coaches staying on? The Steelers are the only team still alive this year from my list. I hope I'm wrong for your sake, but if you think the canning was a good move, you may change your mind over the years... Oh well, TB still has one of the sexiest cheerleading squads!
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01-16-2009, 07:09 PM	#2
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,152	I don't think anyone is surprised since he decided to go with Jeff Garcia over Brian Griese which caused the COLLASPE from 9-3 to 9-7 He deserved to be fired

01-16-2009, 08:50 PM	#7
GARFIELDKOOL Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 02, 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,204	I didn't see this one coming either, but it is time for a change in Tampa Bay.

01-16-2009, 08:56 PM	#8
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,152	This is why Gruden was fired, since winning the SB here is what happened 2003 season-no playoffs 2004 season-no playoffs 2005 season-1st round playoff lost to skins 2006-no playoffs 2007-1st round playoff lost to giants 2008-no playoffs after 9-3 So after looking at that no one should be surprised

01-16-2009, 10:00 PM	#9
DVDFreaker Member Forum Regular Join Date: Aug 23, 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 699	I am not suprised, Jon won the Superbowl with Dungy's players and now he either doesn't make the playoffs or lose in the first round of the playoffs, he is a terrible coach

01-17-2009, 12:10 AM	#11
mriggles Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 25, 2005 Location: JERSEY Posts: 3,627	I think Gruden did a great job especially in the last 10 minutes of the last game!!! Thanks Chucky!!!!!