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Mastermind · 07-23-2008, 11:56 AM

1. It involved the USS Vincennes incident.

Where the captain or some other commanding officer was receiving threatening phone calls by middle eastern people. I think they even tried to blow up his car.

Was there any update to this? Is the officer still alive? Or is the case info sealed due to national security concerns?

2. I remember a case where there were people in Mexico that were praying and then according them the "sun fell from the sky" or something like that? I remember being scared out of my wits when they showed it ona re-enactment? It was a pretty impressive use of special effects for UM.

Does anyone remember where or when this took place and what the incident is called? Is there any site that details this incident?

crystaldawn · 07-23-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastermind

1. It involved the USS Vincennes incident.

Where the captain or some other commanding officer was receiving threatening phone calls by middle eastern people. I think they even tried to blow up his car.

Was there any update to this? Is the officer still alive? Or is the case info sealed due to national security concerns?

I remember that one well. The Captain was Will Rogers and I don't believe anyone was ever arrested for the crime. Here's an old thread with a article about it:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...ghlight=Rogers

Apparently there is also a book about the case:

http://www.amazon.com/Storm-Center-V.../dp/1557507279

charmedsignora · 07-23-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastermind

2. I remember a case where there were people in Mexico that were praying and then according them the "sun fell from the sky" or something like that? I remember being scared out of my wits when they showed it ona re-enactment? It was a pretty impressive use of special effects for UM.

Does anyone remember where or when this took place and what the incident is called? Is there any site that details this incident?

I remember a case in Portugal where three kids claimed to see the Virgin Mary out in a field. At first nobody believed them, but then the townspeople eventually went out there to see if they could see her for themselves. As they were standing out in the field, the sun began "dancing," moving around in circles for several minutes. This incident took place around the time of the First World War. Is this what you're talking about?

Mastermind · 07-23-2008, 04:15 PM

[/QUOTE]--I remember a case in Portugal where three kids claimed to see the Virgin Mary out in a field. At first nobody believed them, but then the townspeople eventually went out there to see if they could see her for themselves. As they were standing out in the field, the sun began "dancing," moving around in circles for several minutes. This incident took place around the time of the First World War. Is this what you're talking about?-----
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Yes, that sounds like it! I thought it happened in the 1990s, though.

charmedsignora · 07-23-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mastermind

Yes, that sounds like it! I thought it happened in the 1990s, though.

No, it's a very old case. I haven't seen the segment in quite a while, but I'm pretty sure it happened in 1917, because two of the three children died the very next year during the Influenza epidemic of 1918. The Catholic church considers the event to be one of the greatest miracles of the 20th century.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush · 07-24-2008, 01:02 AM

Fatima was inexplicable, in that even though not all present saw anything unusual, those who did all seemed to react at once. If mass hysteria proceeded entirely from the imagination, wouldn't they all see a different version of things at different times?

Mastermind · 07-24-2008, 09:47 AM

Is there an official name for the miracle that i can google or is there a website for it? Is it on the UM Miracles DVD set?

charmedsignora · 07-24-2008, 02:17 PM

It's listed on the DVD Miracles set as "Miracle of Fatima." There are also several websites. Try googling "Our Lady of Fatima."

07-23-2008, 11:56 AM	#1
Mastermind Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1,843	Anyone remember these cases? 1. It involved the USS Vincennes incident. Where the captain or some other commanding officer was receiving threatening phone calls by middle eastern people. I think they even tried to blow up his car. Was there any update to this? Is the officer still alive? Or is the case info sealed due to national security concerns? 2. I remember a case where there were people in Mexico that were praying and then according them the "sun fell from the sky" or something like that? I remember being scared out of my wits when they showed it ona re-enactment? It was a pretty impressive use of special effects for UM. Does anyone remember where or when this took place and what the incident is called? Is there any site that details this incident?

07-23-2008, 04:15 PM	#4
Mastermind Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1,843	[/QUOTE]--I remember a case in Portugal where three kids claimed to see the Virgin Mary out in a field. At first nobody believed them, but then the townspeople eventually went out there to see if they could see her for themselves. As they were standing out in the field, the sun began "dancing," moving around in circles for several minutes. This incident took place around the time of the First World War. Is this what you're talking about?----- [/QUOTE] Yes, that sounds like it! I thought it happened in the 1990s, though.

07-24-2008, 01:02 AM	#6
Cori aka ChrisSCrush Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 30, 2001 Location: USA and still trying to be proud of it! Posts: 2,071	Fatima was inexplicable, in that even though not all present saw anything unusual, those who did all seemed to react at once. If mass hysteria proceeded entirely from the imagination, wouldn't they all see a different version of things at different times?

07-24-2008, 09:47 AM	#7
Mastermind Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 16, 2008 Posts: 1,843	Is there an official name for the miracle that i can google or is there a website for it? Is it on the UM Miracles DVD set?

07-24-2008, 02:17 PM	#8
charmedsignora Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 31, 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 204	It's listed on the DVD Miracles set as "Miracle of Fatima." There are also several websites. Try googling "Our Lady of Fatima."