Harvey is Back

[Smartboy]

Since the death of Harvey Korman, I have posted a bunch of messages on various pages of this site as well as a site known as "Jump the Shark". The main thing about his character on "The Flintstones" is that he taught Fred and Barney the difference between what they really want and what they think they want. If you go to the second sub-page of this page, you will see that my post titled "Korman" has twenty-nine views and zero responses! All of the shows that I have posted messages about him regarding are shows in which characters learned that lesson in one way or another. So far, "none" of my messages on this topic have "any" responses! I decided to give this topic a second chance on this page. The thing that I would like feedback on is what people think of the lesson that the Brady Kids learned in "To Move or no To Move" and the lesson that the Great Gazoo was constantly teaching Fred and Barney.

[Ireneparalegal]

I don't think the kids really learned a lesson in the moving episode. They were first complaining abt needing more room and after the home goes on the market, they then change their minds. If anything, they realized you can't make hasty decisions because emotions will come into play. In this case, they really loved their home and they shouldn't take advantage of the fact they share that home with each other.

[Smartboy]

I think that the one and only respondee has raised some "very" interesting points here! The first thing that I would like to touch on is whether the children learned a lesson is this episode. I would say that they learned a valuable lesson about rushing into asking for something without understanding the consequences of getting it. I also think that for these children to learn how lucky they are to have the house that they have is very similar to Fred and Barney learning how lucky they were before they had things such as a fancy car, more money or higher ranking positions at their places of employment. What do other people who have watched both shows think of the similarities in situations?

[Ireneparalegal]

Pretty much, the kids should be grateful for what they have.

[Smartboy]

A few days ago, someone started a thread regarding episodes of "Gilligan's Island" that were very similar to episodes of "The Brady Bunch". Right before I brought this message to the top of the page, I posted a response regarding an episode of "Gilligan's Island" that I found very similar to "To Move or Not to Move". I would be "very" interested in what other viewers think of the parelells! Also, a little bit over an hour ago, I posted a message on the "Will and Grace" page of this site regarding a similar episode of that series. This two-parter was called "Someone Old, Someplace New, Something Borrowed, Someone's Due. I would say that if Will and Grace had watched more "Flintstones" growing up, they might night have been so quick to bite off more than they could chew either! What do other people who have watched all of the above shows think?

[Tweety]

You know something? Asking viewers of different shows to come up with "be careful what you wish for" episodes might be a good topic for the "General" discussions. I think that a pretty high percentages of TV Shows have had just such a theme in at least one episode, and usually more.


e.g. I Love Lucy - there are probably quite a few such episodes, but one example would be the Ricardos' move to the country. They couldn't wait to get there, but once they were in their new house, it was so quiet at night that they couldn't sleep (Lucy: "I've never HEARD so much quiet") They also regretting leaving their best friends, the Mertzes.

In Hollywood, Lucy wanted to meet a bunch of movie stars... but when she did "meet" some of them, she probably wished she hadn't... remember "meeting" William Holden at the Brown Derby restaurant? He turned the tables on Lucy by "staring" at her, and she just couldn't handle it. (That was a GREAT scene).



Other Shows: Gomer Pyle - Sargent Carter is ready to retire... he can't wait to be rid of the "knuckleheads" in his "sorry platoon".. but retirement isn't what he expected, so before the end of the episode, he's back at it, hollering at his sorry platoon again.


"I Dream of Jeanie" - all kinds of "be careful what you wish for" episodes. In fact, that could have been the premise for the series itself.

"Father Knows Best" - Bud wants to move out of the house to be on his own... but the crummy apartment he gets doesn't have any of the luxuries of home. He goes running back to the family.


"Leave it to Beaver" - Beaver wants to be a model, Beaver joins a record club, and many, many more


I'm sure that shows such as "The Andy Griffith Show", "The Dick van Dyke Show" , "All in the Family" , "Happy Days", "The Cosby Show" , "Cheers" , "Family Ties" and certainly "Seinfeld" had many episodes revolving around this theme.

[Ireneparalegal]

^^^Interesting. I agree, this would be a great topic on the general sitcoms board: What characters seemed or were ungrateful for things

[Jude The Obscure]

to make this further on topic--everytime I see this thread, I think Harvey who? Oh, Harvey Klinger!

[Ireneparalegal]

I actually think of Harvey Kromwell (I Love Lucy reference).

[Jude The Obscure]

Lucille Ball was mentioned several times on The Brady Bunch

see, back on topic! With Harvey Korman thrown in for good measure

[Smartboy]

Because of how slow the boards have been lately and because of how much convseration this topic has generated at one point, I have decided to bring it back to the top and give a new generation of readers a chance to read what we had written a while back. I find it very interesting that different people have mentioned different situations in which people rushed into wishing for something and then were sorry once they got it. However, one example that nobody has commented on so far has been the two-part "Will and Grace" episode called "Someone Old, Someplace New, Something Borrowed, Someone's Due"! Maybe it will be different this time around!