Does anyone else feel that Tootie was a little too submissive around Jeff??? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

RetroJessica · 04-16-2008, 12:08 AM

For some reason, I thought Tootie totally devoted her entire life to Jeff. Not that he was a complete jerk, but I felt like she would bow to him and do do whatever he told her to. Like, in one episode, he told her he didn't want her kissing some guy she was doing a play with, even though it was in the script, and she giggled and got the director to take out the kissing. I don't want to assume, but I always felt like Tootie became too submissive around Jeff. I could be wrong, but It was amost like she lived for Jeff and lost herself in him a little bit.

pfeifferobsessed · 04-16-2008, 04:41 AM

i totally agree! in "my boyfriends back", jeff comes to visit her from college the problem is that they are hanging out with his college friends (who are having sex btw) and, although, tooties isnt ready, she decides that jeff wants a sexual relationship...and when she goes to see him about it, she says something like "whatever YOU want to do"...and she says this repetively!!! nothing happens between them...and this is when they go their separate ways, but she was willing to do whatever HE wanted her to do...which i completely disagree with!!!

RetroJessica · 04-16-2008, 08:19 AM

I firmly believe that the woman should always be assertive and the man totally submissive. When you think that this is a show aimed at girls, what message was this sending out? As much as I hate the episode, "Magnificent Obsession" dealt with Blair being in a similar relationship with Chad, but she was encouraged to end things with him. So, Tootie and Jeff kind of contradicted that.

pfeifferobsessed · 04-17-2008, 04:22 AM

yes i agree that the woman should be in charge!!! now see..."magnificent obsession" was about having a bad relationship and overcoming it...blair was encouraged by her friends to get out of it...thats why i love that ep...and the blair/jo scene at the end! at first, tootie and jeff contradicted that, but then they broke up for a while! i think that when they got back together, tootie had become more assertive...and she certainly had by the time of the reunion movie...yes jeff was gone, but i think in the time during the absence of eps that tootie had become the boss!!! her progression through the seasons makes me think that she would end up taking charge!

RetroJessica · 04-17-2008, 11:45 AM

I believe when a man is left to make his own decisions and to think for himself, it turns out all wrong, whereas a woman is able to think for herself because I happen to feel women are superior to men, and one day the male species will become extinct thus the reason for cloning, but for the time being, men need to bow to us and take orders and not be allowed to think for themselves and allow us to make all the decisions. If they should do otherwise, we will beat them senseless.

pfeifferobsessed · 04-17-2008, 05:30 PM

lol! well...i think men need to learn to think for themselves, but i like submissive men! i do think that women tend to be smarter and more well-rounded then men, generally...in some cases, not all! but i dont think that it should be that the woman is superior...it should be equal with the woman barely in the lead...and stays in the lead!!!

jo's sister · 05-04-2008, 01:25 PM

tootie is a kid and jeff is way to old for her

Ireneparalegal · 05-04-2008, 03:51 PM

Tootie at times was still not mature and in this relationship, she did not seem ready to be dating Jeff. Jeff seemed much older than his actual age.

jo's sister · 05-04-2008, 04:07 PM

so is jermine he is older

Ireneparalegal · 05-04-2008, 04:12 PM

Jermaine was not Tootie's boyfriend. That was a celebrity crush.

jo's sister · 05-04-2008, 04:25 PM

she throw a fit to get to see him calling me crazy

Ireneparalegal · 05-04-2008, 04:47 PM

Yeah, she did throw a fit. But Jermaine was not her boyfriend. That is a different situation.

jo's sister · 05-04-2008, 04:49 PM

balir was jealous of geri she is handi caped and toottie throws a fit to met her cursh calling mr dump

Ireneparalegal · 05-04-2008, 07:34 PM

I really don't think Blair was jealous of Geri because she had cerebal palsey. Far from it. I can't imagine anyone being jealous of someone because they had a handicap.

ThomasE · 05-04-2008, 07:36 PM

I have to think about that one Irene. Did not think about it that way.

04-16-2008, 12:08 AM	#1
RetroJessica Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 28, 2008 Location: Manhattan Posts: 71	Does anyone else feel that Tootie was a little too submissive around Jeff??? For some reason, I thought Tootie totally devoted her entire life to Jeff. Not that he was a complete jerk, but I felt like she would bow to him and do do whatever he told her to. Like, in one episode, he told her he didn't want her kissing some guy she was doing a play with, even though it was in the script, and she giggled and got the director to take out the kissing. I don't want to assume, but I always felt like Tootie became too submissive around Jeff. I could be wrong, but It was amost like she lived for Jeff and lost herself in him a little bit.

05-04-2008, 03:51 PM	#8
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Tootie at times was still not mature and in this relationship, she did not seem ready to be dating Jeff. Jeff seemed much older than his actual age.
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05-04-2008, 07:36 PM	#15
ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	I have to think about that one Irene. Did not think about it that way.
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04-16-2008, 04:41 AM	#2
pfeifferobsessed Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 24, 2008 Location: Oh, how I wish I lived in Peekskill Posts: 684	i totally agree! in "my boyfriends back", jeff comes to visit her from college the problem is that they are hanging out with his college friends (who are having sex btw) and, although, tooties isnt ready, she decides that jeff wants a sexual relationship...and when she goes to see him about it, she says something like "whatever YOU want to do"...and she says this repetively!!! nothing happens between them...and this is when they go their separate ways, but she was willing to do whatever HE wanted her to do...which i completely disagree with!!!

04-16-2008, 08:19 AM	#3
RetroJessica Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 28, 2008 Location: Manhattan Posts: 71	I firmly believe that the woman should always be assertive and the man totally submissive. When you think that this is a show aimed at girls, what message was this sending out? As much as I hate the episode, "Magnificent Obsession" dealt with Blair being in a similar relationship with Chad, but she was encouraged to end things with him. So, Tootie and Jeff kind of contradicted that.

04-17-2008, 04:22 AM	#4
pfeifferobsessed Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 24, 2008 Location: Oh, how I wish I lived in Peekskill Posts: 684	yes i agree that the woman should be in charge!!! now see..."magnificent obsession" was about having a bad relationship and overcoming it...blair was encouraged by her friends to get out of it...thats why i love that ep...and the blair/jo scene at the end! at first, tootie and jeff contradicted that, but then they broke up for a while! i think that when they got back together, tootie had become more assertive...and she certainly had by the time of the reunion movie...yes jeff was gone, but i think in the time during the absence of eps that tootie had become the boss!!! her progression through the seasons makes me think that she would end up taking charge!

04-17-2008, 11:45 AM	#5
RetroJessica Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 28, 2008 Location: Manhattan Posts: 71	I believe when a man is left to make his own decisions and to think for himself, it turns out all wrong, whereas a woman is able to think for herself because I happen to feel women are superior to men, and one day the male species will become extinct thus the reason for cloning, but for the time being, men need to bow to us and take orders and not be allowed to think for themselves and allow us to make all the decisions. If they should do otherwise, we will beat them senseless.

04-17-2008, 05:30 PM	#6
pfeifferobsessed Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 24, 2008 Location: Oh, how I wish I lived in Peekskill Posts: 684	lol! well...i think men need to learn to think for themselves, but i like submissive men! i do think that women tend to be smarter and more well-rounded then men, generally...in some cases, not all! but i dont think that it should be that the woman is superior...it should be equal with the woman barely in the lead...and stays in the lead!!!

05-04-2008, 01:25 PM	#7
jo's sister Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2008 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 408	tootie is a kid and jeff is way to old for her

05-04-2008, 04:07 PM	#9
jo's sister Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2008 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 408	so is jermine he is older

05-04-2008, 04:12 PM	#10
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Jermaine was not Tootie's boyfriend. That was a celebrity crush.

05-04-2008, 04:25 PM	#11
jo's sister Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2008 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 408	she throw a fit to get to see him calling me crazy

05-04-2008, 04:47 PM	#12
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Yeah, she did throw a fit. But Jermaine was not her boyfriend. That is a different situation.

05-04-2008, 04:49 PM	#13
jo's sister Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 24, 2008 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 408	balir was jealous of geri she is handi caped and toottie throws a fit to met her cursh calling mr dump

05-04-2008, 07:34 PM	#14
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	I really don't think Blair was jealous of Geri because she had cerebal palsey. Far from it. I can't imagine anyone being jealous of someone because they had a handicap.