NBC unedited segments

[crystaldawn]

I thought it would be good for us to list a lot of these scenes and lines in NBC airings of UM that Lifetime has edited out. Some of these episodes have been put on the volumes so a lot of you may have already noticed the scenes. Hopefully this can be a collaborative effort so any of you that have watched any NBC episodes and noticed parts in them you didn't notice on the Lifetime airings, please list.

Cindy James - this one in my opinion is the most edited case. On the NBC version there are more comments from Neal Hall, comments from Cindy's psychotherapist saying there was no indication she had split personalities, comments from her parents on how much they miss Cindy and how they don't think she killed herself and even some audio of Cindy herself.

Susan Laferte & Doreen Picard - There is a scene where they mention Susan's family receiving threatening calls after they try to investigate who could be responsible for the attack.

Charles Mulet - A scene where he is living at a trailer and the police bust down the door to try and arrest him but he is already gone. Apparently there is some thought that a fellow police officer may have tipped him off.

Angela Hammond - I noticed a line edited out in Rob Shafer's interview. He talks about the phone call and when the guy pulls up. He says something to the effect that Angie and him didn't think much about it and just continued their conversation.

Nyleen Kay Marshall - At the end of the segment RS mentions that in the letters from the person who possibly abducted her he mentions that his parents and sister were killed in an auto accident when the sister was 9.

Mickey Thompson - A scene where they talk to his son a bit more and show footage of them sitting around a table.

TK Hardy - They show some creepy footage of the killer walking around the house before and after Hardy is shot.

I'll post more as I think of or come across them.

[justins5256]

Well, this isn't too specific but it seems like anytime they update a segment about a fugitive's capture, the tail end of the segment where Stack rattles off the fugitive's attributes typically gets truncated or cut entirely.

I guess this is a timing thing.

The only example I can think of offhand is the infamous "Omar" arsonist segment. In the original broadcast, pre-update, Stack displays the camo-jacket that the tape was found wrapped in, a strange insignia that is on the jacket, and the arsonist's nickname as revealed on the tape - "The Fashion Man". I never knew these details until I found the NBC version of the segment. The Lifetime version omits this scene in favor of the update.

[wiseguy182]

the one that sticks out in my mind is the Tony Lombardi case, where Lifetime edits out another possible suspect: somebody that followed Tony home and threatened his life after he allegedly cut them off in traffic.

[DarkDante]

Dorothy Alison - They cut a lot out of this one including RS mentioning Dorothy predicting her own father's death as well as a scene where Dorothy was looking through pictures of missing or deceased children and speaking about how most of her cases involve children.

There is also an extended interview with Ellen Jacobson

[ididn'tdoit]

Philip Fraser (yes that's the accurate spelling ) I can't believe how much they edited out here, it could probably compete with Cindy James. Including: When Canadian Police confiscate Philip's two handguns, when Tina Brockledge is interviewed, a scene with the Olsons when the hitchhiker is going to spend the night there, a scene with Philip's father is entirely cut, and a scene at the end when Canadian Police theorize what happened after Philip had picked up the hitchhiker. UNBELIEVABLE!

Joe Owens some dialog with Gayle Dunham (one of the mothers) is edited out, she says: "He hated her music, you didn't think that he disliked her traveling around, you knew he hated the whole thing. If you would have played a note on that piano a that time his whole body would have quivered" then they cut "maybe he didn't like the mess in the house, I don't know... But you knew there was hate there."

[TJ]

Alex Cooper - In the original NBC segment, they showed him falling into a river as one of the possible theories for his disappearance. It was a pretty disturbing scene. I don't think Lifetime aired that part.

[DarkDante]

^ Unless they actually showed him taking a header into the river - Lifetime did broadcast something about this scenerio. Alex's daughter comes on and says "I thought about the water, my dad liked to fish and I thought he might have gone fishing and had a heart attack and drowned" and they show a scene of him walking down to the river. Not that disturbing in my opinion, now if the original broadcast actually included a scene of him falling into the river and being swept away...well yeah that would be disturbing.

[TJ]

That's what I'm talking about. They actually showed him falling and being swept away.

[justins5256]

A few more-

The NBC version of the infamous "Dark Dante" segment talks about a "test set" that was found in Kevin's apartment that permitted him to monitor telephone conversations. There is also some additional commentary from Kevin's friend, Shaun Randall.

In that same episode, there is a brief extended scene during the Adam Hecht story that occurs after Tony is evicted from Adam's apartment. Its basically just some useless comments from Adam's mother about how she wishes they could give Tony a "truth serum or something" because it was obvious that he knew more than he was telling.

Another scene that was shown on the NBC version, but not on Lifetime occurred in the "Katie" segment where she discusses her first time seeing a ghost- it was the ghost of her dead father, apparently.

The interview with Son of Sam shooting witness Tommy Zano(sp?) is a little longer in the NBC cut of that segment. He goes on to say (and I'm paraphrasing): Berkowitz was a big fat guy, no way he could run like that!

[marlins3]

I believe Zaino said "You don't get that fat in a week" or something like that.

One that always stuck out in my mind is the Johnny Lee Wilson segment (a fave of mine). In the Lifetime version, they edit out the comments from Chris Brownfield (stating how he felt bad for Johnny).

[ididn'tdoit]

The Boston Area Rapist the part with the joint task force is cut from one Lifetime version (the one on one of CD's volumes I believe) but I've seen another Lifetime version online where it wasn't edited out, so that's kinda weird

In any case, they did change the composite sketches in both Lifetime versions.

[Composite Sketch]

What, so on the NBC original airing, the composite of the rapist looked different? My curiosity to see it is overwhelming....

I'm not surprised to see the Philip Fraser case on this list. Watching the rerun for the first time a year ago, it clearly looked clipped. Only watching the rerun, you would never have known that he was carrying two handguns! (Was one of them the murder weapon? And what did Canadian police theorize exactly?)

Tom Johnson - I have two Lifetime versions of the case, one on tape from when the case was re-aired in the 2001-02 era, and one from CD's DVD which was a rerun from the original airing. In each version there's a scene cut out - on the tape, they cut out Stack showing the computer that Johnson stole and stating that he tried to pull a similar scam the previous week, and on the DVD, they cut out a line from "Jeremy" after the composite is shown the first time, saying something about "Tom Johnson is an enigma".

Beverly McGowan - They go back to the body lying in the swamp and the investigator commenting on the bizarreness of the case (right before Beverly's brother gives his final comments). This is cut on the Lifetime reruns.

[crystaldawn]

Originally Posted by Composite Sketch

What, so on the NBC original airing, the composite of the rapist looked different? My curiosity to see it is overwhelming....

Your wish is my command... The first two pictures are the composite sketch shown on the NBC airing. The last picture is the composite sketch shown on the Lifetime airing. The Lifetime airing also shows the third picture with glasses and a mustache drawn on it as well.

[crystaldawn]

Originally Posted by ididn'tdoit

Philip Fraser (yes that's the accurate spelling ) I can't believe how much they edited out here, it could probably compete with Cindy James. Including: When Canadian Police confiscate Philip's two handguns, when Tina Brockledge is interviewed, a scene with the Olsons when the hitchhiker is going to spend the night there, a scene with Philip's father is entirely cut, and a scene at the end when Canadian Police theorize what happened after Philip had picked up the hitchhiker. UNBELIEVABLE!

I just watched the NBC version of the Philip Fraser segment and you're right ididn'tdoit so much unedited footage there! To answer your question Composite Sketch about the guns, Philip was stopped at the border on his way into the US. He told them he had two handguns and its illegal to enter the US with guns so the authorities took them and they became their property and after an hour delay Philip was on his way. Yes an entire scene that took place at the Olsen's basement where the killer is told to choose whichever couch he wants to sleep on. Eddie Olsen also mentions there were 12-15 guns down there in a gun rack. In the father's interview he mentions how he would theorize what may have happened to Philip (before his body was found) like maybe even ditching his car and taking off but said he knew intellectually that wasn't the case. Also mentioned the killer seemed to be knowledgeable of the Toronto and Seattle area which I don't remember seeing on the Lifetime version. It is aggravating to know they edited so much out when its not like there was an update or anything to make room for.

[justins5256]

With regard to the Boston Shopping Mall Rapist - I seem to remember reading on Newsbank that some viewers called the 800 number after the segment aired and identified the rapist as a local veterinarian. He was interviewed and cooperated with the police and was cleared as a suspect. Perhaps the composite was modified for that reason.