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crystals · 04-04-2008, 03:18 PM

By Michael Conlon Thu Apr 3, 9:43 AM PDT

A transgender man who is six months pregnant said in an interview aired by Oprah Winfrey on Thursday that he always wanted to have a child and considers it a miracle.

"It's not a male or female desire to have a child. It's a human desire," a thinly bearded Thomas Beatie said. "I have a very stable male identity," he added, saying that pregnancy neither defines him nor makes him feel feminine.

Beatie, 34, who lives in Oregon, was born a woman but decided to become a man 10 years ago. He began taking testosterone treatments and had breast surgery to remove glands and flatten his chest.

"I opted not to do anything with my reproductive organs because I wanted to have a child one day," he told the talk show host. Beatie's wife Nancy said she inseminated him with a syringe using sperm purchased from a bank.

Now, he said, his size 32 jeans are getting a bit tight and his shirts are a bit stretched.

Nancy, to whom he has been married for five years and who has two grown daughters by a previous marriage, also appeared on the show, saying the couple's roles will not change once the baby is born.

"He's going to be the father and I'm going to be the mother," she said. Their marriage is legal and he is recognized under state law as a man.

The couple was shown on video provided by People Magazine, which collaborated with Winfrey on the show, showing the room that will be the baby's nursery. Beatie said the little girl was going to be "daddy's little princess."

The couple was also filmed in their hometown of Bend, Oregon, where he underwent an ultrasound showing the baby in his womb.

"I can't believe it. I can't believe she's inside me," Beatie said while watching the ultrasound image. "We see her as our little miracle."

His obstetrician, Dr. Kimberly James, who practices in the Oregon town, told Winfrey, "This is a normal pregnancy."

She said Beatie stopped taking testosterone two years ago and his levels of the hormone are normal.

"This baby is totally healthy," she said. "This is what I consider a normal pregnancy."

The couple said they had been turned down by a number of other doctors before James agreed to take him as a patient.

The couple said an earlier attempt at pregnancy failed when he developed a tubal pregnancy, resulting in surgery that removed his Fallopian tubes.

The couple said they decided to go public with the pregnancy because they wanted to control the way the news got out. "We're just going to have the baby now," Nancy said. "If we have to, we'll go hide."

The couple runs a small business in Bend and has some savings, she said. In addition, Beatie is working on a book about his childhood, his mother's suicide and his life growing in Hawaii where, as a girl, he was a teen beauty pageant contestant and earned a martial arts black belt.

Winfrey called the development "a new definition of what diversity means for everybody."

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Ireneparalegal · 04-04-2008, 03:23 PM

I seen that yesterday. I had actually read abt it two weeks ago. Becoming pregnant and the life that grows inside is a miracle indeed. This is no different simply because she is now legally considered a man. She still has a uterus.

friendsfan77 · 04-04-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

I seen that yesterday. I had actually read abt it two weeks ago. Becoming pregnant and the life that grows inside is a miracle indeed. This is no different simply because she is now legally considered a man. She still has a uterus.

Well said!

catlover79 · 04-04-2008, 03:54 PM

So true, Irene.

AKA · 04-04-2008, 04:09 PM

Yuck!

Augustus McCrae · 04-04-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA

Yuck!

I agree.

dawsongirl · 04-04-2008, 04:46 PM

Miracle...I don't think so. Many humans with a uterus get preggers. Just cuz you're now a man just makes it weird, not a miracle.

It'd be more miraculous if a woman who was told she'd never have kids got pregnant.

Hollow · 04-04-2008, 05:42 PM

disturbing.

*ClassicPinUp* · 04-04-2008, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawsongirl

Miracle...I don't think so. Many humans with a uterus get preggers. Just cuz you're now a man just makes it weird, not a miracle.

Child_of_the_80s · 04-04-2008, 05:51 PM

I honestly don't know how I feel about this nor do I have a right to judge but i'm kind of confused about this man's logic on all of this... I mean he re-assigned his sex but yet, wants to carry a child... I don't know, but saying "yuck" about the whole subject is really uncalled for.

TJL · 04-04-2008, 06:01 PM

"I opted not to do anything with my reproductive organs because I wanted to have a child one day," he told the talk show host.

Yeah, he's just one of the guys.

catlover79 · 04-04-2008, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawsongirl

Miracle...I don't think so. Many humans with a uterus get preggers. Just cuz you're now a man just makes it weird, not a miracle.

It'd be more miraculous if a woman who was told she'd never have kids got pregnant.

InspectorExstead · 04-04-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawsongirl

Miracle...I don't think so. Many humans with a uterus get preggers. Just cuz you're now a man just makes it weird, not a miracle.

It'd be more miraculous if a woman who was told she'd never have kids got pregnant.

agreed. he still has a uterus, so he was able to get pregnant. it's weird though.
i was watching the oprah episode yesterday for a bit & just kept thinking how weird it is that a man is pregnant. it looked weird & unnatural.

Ireneparalegal · 04-04-2008, 06:19 PM

Until she removes her uterus and has a total transgender operation (a private part made and all), that is still a woman regardless. Men want to have babies too, but usually their female partner is the pregnant one. The mere fact she wanted to be pregnant tells me she is not fully comprehending what it means to live your life as a man.

EmoJoe · 04-04-2008, 06:46 PM

i heard about this the other day...disturbing.

04-04-2008, 03:18 PM	#1
crystals Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 02, 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,829	Pregnant man tells Oprah: It's a miracle By Michael Conlon Thu Apr 3, 9:43 AM PDT A transgender man who is six months pregnant said in an interview aired by Oprah Winfrey on Thursday that he always wanted to have a child and considers it a miracle. "It's not a male or female desire to have a child. It's a human desire," a thinly bearded Thomas Beatie said. "I have a very stable male identity," he added, saying that pregnancy neither defines him nor makes him feel feminine. Beatie, 34, who lives in Oregon, was born a woman but decided to become a man 10 years ago. He began taking testosterone treatments and had breast surgery to remove glands and flatten his chest. "I opted not to do anything with my reproductive organs because I wanted to have a child one day," he told the talk show host. Beatie's wife Nancy said she inseminated him with a syringe using sperm purchased from a bank. Now, he said, his size 32 jeans are getting a bit tight and his shirts are a bit stretched. Nancy, to whom he has been married for five years and who has two grown daughters by a previous marriage, also appeared on the show, saying the couple's roles will not change once the baby is born. "He's going to be the father and I'm going to be the mother," she said. Their marriage is legal and he is recognized under state law as a man. The couple was shown on video provided by People Magazine, which collaborated with Winfrey on the show, showing the room that will be the baby's nursery. Beatie said the little girl was going to be "daddy's little princess." The couple was also filmed in their hometown of Bend, Oregon, where he underwent an ultrasound showing the baby in his womb. "I can't believe it. I can't believe she's inside me," Beatie said while watching the ultrasound image. "We see her as our little miracle." His obstetrician, Dr. Kimberly James, who practices in the Oregon town, told Winfrey, "This is a normal pregnancy." She said Beatie stopped taking testosterone two years ago and his levels of the hormone are normal. "This baby is totally healthy," she said. "This is what I consider a normal pregnancy." The couple said they had been turned down by a number of other doctors before James agreed to take him as a patient. The couple said an earlier attempt at pregnancy failed when he developed a tubal pregnancy, resulting in surgery that removed his Fallopian tubes. The couple said they decided to go public with the pregnancy because they wanted to control the way the news got out. "We're just going to have the baby now," Nancy said. "If we have to, we'll go hide." The couple runs a small business in Bend and has some savings, she said. In addition, Beatie is working on a book about his childhood, his mother's suicide and his life growing in Hawaii where, as a girl, he was a teen beauty pageant contestant and earned a martial arts black belt. Winfrey called the development "a new definition of what diversity means for everybody." http://tv.yahoo.com/contributor/3057...n_dc__ER:60410
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04-04-2008, 03:23 PM	#2
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	I seen that yesterday. I had actually read abt it two weeks ago. Becoming pregnant and the life that grows inside is a miracle indeed. This is no different simply because she is now legally considered a man. She still has a uterus.
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04-04-2008, 03:54 PM	#4
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TJL Suburbanite Extrordinaire Forum Star Join Date: Dec 29, 2001 Location: New Jersey - the cradle of civilization Posts: 16,588	"I opted not to do anything with my reproductive organs because I wanted to have a child one day," he told the talk show host. Yeah, he's just one of the guys.
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EmoJoe Cool cool cool Forum Addict Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 71,478	i heard about this the other day...disturbing.
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04-04-2008, 04:09 PM	#5
AKA Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 17, 2001 Posts: 15,746	Yuck!

04-04-2008, 04:46 PM	#7
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,140	Miracle...I don't think so. Many humans with a uterus get preggers. Just cuz you're now a man just makes it weird, not a miracle. It'd be more miraculous if a woman who was told she'd never have kids got pregnant.

04-04-2008, 05:42 PM	#8
Hollow Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 16, 2001 Posts: 30,406	disturbing.

04-04-2008, 05:51 PM	#10
Child_of_the_80s Uh Huh Her Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 04, 2008 Location: Back in St. Olaf Posts: 106	I honestly don't know how I feel about this nor do I have a right to judge but i'm kind of confused about this man's logic on all of this... I mean he re-assigned his sex but yet, wants to carry a child... I don't know, but saying "yuck" about the whole subject is really uncalled for.

04-04-2008, 06:19 PM	#14
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Until she removes her uterus and has a total transgender operation (a private part made and all), that is still a woman regardless. Men want to have babies too, but usually their female partner is the pregnant one. The mere fact she wanted to be pregnant tells me she is not fully comprehending what it means to live your life as a man.