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mgm711 · 03-20-2008, 08:21 PM

They really need to do this storey when UM goes back on the air .it has upset me for years now...this guy was murdered in my opinion .They concluded he stabbed himself with his own penknife 36 times.

The mysterious death of Maryland federal prosecutor Jonathan Luna.

http://wjz.com/topstories/Jonathan.L....2.419421.html

http://wjz.com/topstories/Jonathan.L....2.419588.html

http://www.yardbird.com/luna.htm

The night he died: Dec 3–4, 2003
11:38 pm: Luna left the Baltimore courthouse and went northeast on I-95. He used his E-ZPass on I-95 into Delaware but not on the New Jersey and Pennsylvania Turnpikes. After three toll interchanges, he switched to buying toll tickets.
12:57 am: $200 was withdrawn from Luna's bank account from the ATM at the JFK Plaza service center near Newark, Delaware.
02:47 am: he crossed the Delaware toll bridge to the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
03:20 am: his debit card bought gas for two cars at the King of Prussia service plaza.
04:04 am: his car exited the turnpike at the Reading-Lancaster interchange. The toll ticket had a spot of his blood on it suggesting that he was already injured. His car was parked at the back of the Sensenig & Weaver Well Drilling company at 1439 Dry Tavern Road, Denver, Pennsylvania (Brecknock Township) before it was later driven into the creek.
05:00 am: the first employee of Sensenig & Weaver arrived.
05:30 am: the car was noticed, with its lights off and the front end into the stream. Blood was smeared over the driver's door and the front left of the car. Luna was face down in the stream under the car engine. He was wearing a suit and a black overcoat with his court ID around his neck. A pool of blood was found on the rear seat floor. Although stabbed 36 times with his own penknife around the chest and neck plus a head injury, the death was due to drowning.
No suspects or motive for murder was determined. The federal authorities lean towards calling it a suicide but the local Lancaster County authorities, including two successive coroners, ruled it a homicide. There is an unclaimed federal reward of $100,000 for information leading to a conviction.

Suicide theory
Luna was to take a polygraph test concerning $36,000 which disappeared from a bank robbery case that he had prosecuted. Luna did not have the expected substantial defense wounds on his hands. Many of the wounds are shallow which are called "hesitation" wounds in a suicide victim. Luna had a charge card which his wife, Angela, did not know about. His name was on an Internet dating site and he had a $25,000 credit card debt. There's also an accidental suicide theory that Luna was fabricating a kidnapping and attack and that he went too far.

Homicide theory
Luna left his glasses, which he needed to drive, and his cell phone on his desk. He had called defense attorneys earlier in the night saying he would fax over documents that night but they never arrived. The pool of blood in the back seat would suggest Luna was in back and someone else was driving. Luna was at the time working under fired US attorney Thomas M. DiBiagio, "finding Ehrlich and lobbyist Jack Abramoff were DC Madam clients" [1]

Inquest
In early February 2007, a private investigator and an attorney, both hired by Luna's family, filed a petition for a writ of mandamus in order to force the Lancaster County coroner to conduct an inquest into Luna's death, after an earlier request was declined.

LooksLikeCRicci · 03-20-2008, 09:57 PM

You know, I just read the Wikipedia article about Jonathan. What's really interesting to me is that they say that he stabbed himself with a penknife 36 times, but the actual cause of death was drowning.

I can't see anyone stabbing themselves in the chest 36 times. If any of you are familiar with the folk(ish) singer Elliott Smith, I believe that he also committed suicide by stabbing himself in the chest. However, he only did it once.

mgm711 · 03-20-2008, 11:24 PM

As I got more and more into reading up on this i found conspiracy all over this one from the FBI ,other. it was reported that Jonathan luna was missing even know his body was off. found dead at 8am "shot and stabbed to death"
Abc,cnn news and many many press originally said to he was found shot and stabbed to death.
Now from my experience when my best friend in the world was murdered along with my 3 year old goddaughter and my best friend Lisa Greaves sister Heatheri dear friend were found brutally stabbed to death on march 25,2005 and it was a serial killer cause he killed before another young girl in july'99 .the detective at the crime scene noticed unusual stabb wounds tied in to the unsolved murder of the 20 year old Jennifer still in '99 she had the same Unique stab/slash wounds to her .they linked it back to a 33 year old supermarket clerk John C. Eichinger,.He comfessed to all 4 murders and is now on death row in pa awaiting execution on 3 death sentices 1 life and 22 years.

http://www.crimezzz.net/serialkiller...GER_john_c.php

anyway my point being sometimes wrong info. get released .but shot too why would that even say that ????? any ideas

yolate · 03-23-2008, 11:41 PM

This is indeed a very strange case. I live in Baltimore so I followed it pretty closely. Considering he had such significant credit card debt and a few secrets in his life (being on the dating site) I have always wondered if he owed money to someone else as well and that's what got him killed. I've always felt that the ruling of suicide was more because they had no absolutely idea who could have done this and it was neat, clean way to close the case.

03-20-2008, 08:21 PM	#1
mgm711 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 21, 2008 Location: pa Posts: 10	Death of Jonathan Luna They really need to do this storey when UM goes back on the air .it has upset me for years now...this guy was murdered in my opinion .They concluded he stabbed himself with his own penknife 36 times. The mysterious death of Maryland federal prosecutor Jonathan Luna. http://wjz.com/topstories/Jonathan.L....2.419421.html http://wjz.com/topstories/Jonathan.L....2.419588.html http://www.yardbird.com/luna.htm The night he died: Dec 3–4, 2003 11:38 pm: Luna left the Baltimore courthouse and went northeast on I-95. He used his E-ZPass on I-95 into Delaware but not on the New Jersey and Pennsylvania Turnpikes. After three toll interchanges, he switched to buying toll tickets. 12:57 am: $200 was withdrawn from Luna's bank account from the ATM at the JFK Plaza service center near Newark, Delaware. 02:47 am: he crossed the Delaware toll bridge to the Pennsylvania Turnpike. 03:20 am: his debit card bought gas for two cars at the King of Prussia service plaza. 04:04 am: his car exited the turnpike at the Reading-Lancaster interchange. The toll ticket had a spot of his blood on it suggesting that he was already injured. His car was parked at the back of the Sensenig & Weaver Well Drilling company at 1439 Dry Tavern Road, Denver, Pennsylvania (Brecknock Township) before it was later driven into the creek. 05:00 am: the first employee of Sensenig & Weaver arrived. 05:30 am: the car was noticed, with its lights off and the front end into the stream. Blood was smeared over the driver's door and the front left of the car. Luna was face down in the stream under the car engine. He was wearing a suit and a black overcoat with his court ID around his neck. A pool of blood was found on the rear seat floor. Although stabbed 36 times with his own penknife around the chest and neck plus a head injury, the death was due to drowning. No suspects or motive for murder was determined. The federal authorities lean towards calling it a suicide but the local Lancaster County authorities, including two successive coroners, ruled it a homicide. There is an unclaimed federal reward of $100,000 for information leading to a conviction. Suicide theory Luna was to take a polygraph test concerning $36,000 which disappeared from a bank robbery case that he had prosecuted. Luna did not have the expected substantial defense wounds on his hands. Many of the wounds are shallow which are called "hesitation" wounds in a suicide victim. Luna had a charge card which his wife, Angela, did not know about. His name was on an Internet dating site and he had a $25,000 credit card debt. There's also an accidental suicide theory that Luna was fabricating a kidnapping and attack and that he went too far. Homicide theory Luna left his glasses, which he needed to drive, and his cell phone on his desk. He had called defense attorneys earlier in the night saying he would fax over documents that night but they never arrived. The pool of blood in the back seat would suggest Luna was in back and someone else was driving. Luna was at the time working under fired US attorney Thomas M. DiBiagio, "finding Ehrlich and lobbyist Jack Abramoff were DC Madam clients" [1] Inquest In early February 2007, a private investigator and an attorney, both hired by Luna's family, filed a petition for a writ of mandamus in order to force the Lancaster County coroner to conduct an inquest into Luna's death, after an earlier request was declined.

03-20-2008, 09:57 PM	#2
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	You know, I just read the Wikipedia article about Jonathan. What's really interesting to me is that they say that he stabbed himself with a penknife 36 times, but the actual cause of death was drowning. I can't see anyone stabbing themselves in the chest 36 times. If any of you are familiar with the folk(ish) singer Elliott Smith, I believe that he also committed suicide by stabbing himself in the chest. However, he only did it once.

03-20-2008, 11:24 PM	#3
mgm711 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 21, 2008 Location: pa Posts: 10	As I got more and more into reading up on this i found conspiracy all over this one from the FBI ,other. it was reported that Jonathan luna was missing even know his body was off. found dead at 8am "shot and stabbed to death" Abc,cnn news and many many press originally said to he was found shot and stabbed to death. Now from my experience when my best friend in the world was murdered along with my 3 year old goddaughter and my best friend Lisa Greaves sister Heatheri dear friend were found brutally stabbed to death on march 25,2005 and it was a serial killer cause he killed before another young girl in july'99 .the detective at the crime scene noticed unusual stabb wounds tied in to the unsolved murder of the 20 year old Jennifer still in '99 she had the same Unique stab/slash wounds to her .they linked it back to a 33 year old supermarket clerk John C. Eichinger,.He comfessed to all 4 murders and is now on death row in pa awaiting execution on 3 death sentices 1 life and 22 years. http://www.crimezzz.net/serialkiller...GER_john_c.php anyway my point being sometimes wrong info. get released .but shot too why would that even say that ????? any ideas

03-23-2008, 11:41 PM	#4
yolate Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 05, 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 27	This is indeed a very strange case. I live in Baltimore so I followed it pretty closely. Considering he had such significant credit card debt and a few secrets in his life (being on the dating site) I have always wondered if he owed money to someone else as well and that's what got him killed. I've always felt that the ruling of suicide was more because they had no absolutely idea who could have done this and it was neat, clean way to close the case.