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OH Nuts! · 03-16-2008, 12:37 PM

I guess I'm thinking of groups that should should have had more fame & fortune because of their talent, but through bad luck/misfortunes never did. We probably can all name a group/someone who comes to mind.

For me its the Cowsills, who had two great #2 hits "The Rain, The Park and Other Things" and "Hair". They were also being seriously considered to do the Partridge Family series which was based on them.

They have always had bad financial situations. Part because their dad goofed with bad financial decisions, and part because the deal with the TV show fell through. This has always left a sour taste in my mouth abt the PF series.

Since the early 70s they've had rough times. And it makes me really sad because, IMHO they were SO TALENTED and deserving of more.

Ireneparalegal · 03-16-2008, 01:15 PM

Not a group but an artist who should have been waaaay bigger is Cheryl Lynn. She had a couple of hits, one with the group Toto. But the one she is most famous for is GOT TO BE REAL. I just posted a few weeks back on that CHIC thread how Nile Rogers stated Cheryl Lynn should have been bigger than she ever was and could be recording to this day and why she isn't, he hasn't a clue. That woman could SIIIIIING! I have her songs on my real one player, including STAR LOVE and SHAKE IT UP TONITE.

Dean Winchester · 03-17-2008, 01:26 AM

Irene Cara is a prime example here. She really seemed to carry the dance-pop torch brightly in the early 80's when Donna Summer moved away from disco to rock/pop and before Madonna had truly taken off. But then in 1984-1985, she got into a really nasty lawsuit with her label that kept her out of the studio for years, and by the time things were settled, her time had way passed. Even tho with "Fame" and "Flashdance... What A Feelin'", you'd think she would have a higher status among the dance divas. Maybe not Donna or Madonna's level, but better than she gets.

OH Nuts! · 03-17-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Winchester

Irene Cara is a prime example here. She really seemed to carry the dance-pop torch brightly in the early 80's when Donna Summer moved away from disco to rock/pop and before Madonna had truly taken off. But then in 1984-1985, she got into a really nasty lawsuit with her label that kept her out of the studio for years, and by the time things were settled, her time had way passed. Even tho with "Fame" and "Flashdance... What A Feelin'", you'd think she would have a higher status among the dance divas. Maybe not Donna or Madonna's level, but better than she gets.

Yes, Irene Cara is a good example. Tres ultra talented. Hope she one day reclaims her rightful status.

Dean Winchester · 03-17-2008, 09:14 PM

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Yes, Irene Cara is a good example. Tres ultra talented. Hope she one day reclaims her rightful status.

I wonder what would've happened if not for that lawsuit. The "What A Feeling" (not the Flashdance soundtrack, but an album she put out a little later which had that song) album had four or five hit singles on it and she seemed to be taking off careerwise in 1983-1984 and then the lawsuit came along and that was the end of her as a pop star. Could she have kept the momentum going in the 80's?

Ireneparalegal · 03-17-2008, 09:16 PM

Irene also won an Oscar for writing that song. It was after that it seemed to magically just disappear.

Dean Winchester · 03-17-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

Irene also won an Oscar for writing that song. It was after that it seemed to magically just disappear.

she took her record label to court right around them because they were stiffing her out of money, she apparently only pocketed about $500 for "Flashdance What A Feeling" when that song earned millions, and the lawsuit lasted for a number of years and by the time it settled, it was the 90's and Irene's moment was long over.

OH Nuts! · 03-17-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Winchester

she took her record label to court right around them because they were stiffing her out of money, she apparently only pocketed about $500 for "Flashdance What A Feeling" when that song earned millions, and the lawsuit lasted for a number of years and by the time it settled, it was the 90's and Irene's moment was long over.

Having to slug it out legally is draining. Hope she regroups and comes back ASAP. Her kind of talent never dies.

Ireneparalegal · 03-17-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Winchester

she took her record label to court right around them because they were stiffing her out of money, she apparently only pocketed about $500 for "Flashdance What A Feeling" when that song earned millions, and the lawsuit lasted for a number of years and by the time it settled, it was the 90's and Irene's moment was long over.

I knew she was in some lawsuit, but never knew the details. I remember seeing her on some show and it was shown that she was recording some songs, but I haven't heard anything else.

03-16-2008, 12:37 PM	#1
OH Nuts! Member Forum King Join Date: Feb 15, 2005 Posts: 133,383	Groups That Got Shafted I guess I'm thinking of groups that should should have had more fame & fortune because of their talent, but through bad luck/misfortunes never did. We probably can all name a group/someone who comes to mind. For me its the Cowsills, who had two great #2 hits "The Rain, The Park and Other Things" and "Hair". They were also being seriously considered to do the Partridge Family series which was based on them. They have always had bad financial situations. Part because their dad goofed with bad financial decisions, and part because the deal with the TV show fell through. This has always left a sour taste in my mouth abt the PF series. Since the early 70s they've had rough times. And it makes me really sad because, IMHO they were SO TALENTED and deserving of more.

03-16-2008, 01:15 PM	#2
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Not a group but an artist who should have been waaaay bigger is Cheryl Lynn. She had a couple of hits, one with the group Toto. But the one she is most famous for is GOT TO BE REAL. I just posted a few weeks back on that CHIC thread how Nile Rogers stated Cheryl Lynn should have been bigger than she ever was and could be recording to this day and why she isn't, he hasn't a clue. That woman could SIIIIIING! I have her songs on my real one player, including STAR LOVE and SHAKE IT UP TONITE.
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03-17-2008, 01:26 AM	#3
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	Irene Cara is a prime example here. She really seemed to carry the dance-pop torch brightly in the early 80's when Donna Summer moved away from disco to rock/pop and before Madonna had truly taken off. But then in 1984-1985, she got into a really nasty lawsuit with her label that kept her out of the studio for years, and by the time things were settled, her time had way passed. Even tho with "Fame" and "Flashdance... What A Feelin'", you'd think she would have a higher status among the dance divas. Maybe not Donna or Madonna's level, but better than she gets.

03-17-2008, 09:16 PM	#6
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Irene also won an Oscar for writing that song. It was after that it seemed to magically just disappear.