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angelina26 · 03-14-2008, 12:02 AM

Hey guys I just saw a segment about two guys from Colorado who owned the same bookstore at two different times...and they both disappeared..

The first guy, tom Young, said he was going to europe but they found his body along with his dog in the woods along with a revolver.

Keith Reinhart said he was going to climb the mountain in Colorado although he had a fear of heights and Vertigo and going through a midlife crisis..anyways noone has found him.

I googled the heck out of it for updates and nada...

colt45allstar · 03-14-2008, 12:42 AM

This is one of my all time favorite segments, have always wondered what happened to Keith.

Todd Mueller · 03-14-2008, 12:46 AM

I also loved this segment...

Never been an update but two strong theories emerged. Based on how many people Keith told he was "just going for a hike," it is obvious he wanted people to know he was gone. One theory is that he went off to the mountains to kill himself. But more likely, he went to climb a mountain to prove something to himself and either fell and died or got lost and died.

I would be anything that his body is lost in the mountains somewhere and will probably never be found due to how remote it is.

VERY strange case though.

crystaldawn · 03-14-2008, 08:48 AM

Yep great segment. I'm a little aggravated at UM's portrayal of Keith Reinhard on this one. Someone from the board spoke with the police department where he went missing a few years ago and he still hadn't been found. This friend also sent me copies of several newspaper clippings of Tom and Keith's disappearance. UM made such a concerted effort to tie in the book Keith was writing on Tom but in the actual newspaper not one word was mentioned about it. There didn't seem to be a doubt that he just got lost up in the mountains but UM seemed to go out of their way to suggest something sinister or suicidal. Here is a a letter published in the newspaper that Keith had written to his wife just days before he went missing which show that he seemed to be in a very upbeat state of mind:

"Yesterday Ted and I tried to conquer the ridge looking down on Silver Plume from the south. Ted made it. I didn't, reaching within 50-100 feet of the summit and all of a sudden getting panicky over my heights phobia. I wedged myself behind a scraggly spruce tree looking perhaps 1500 feet straight down at town and resigned myself to sleeping there overnight and waiting for a helicopter to rescue me the next day.
Ted, who had taken a different route to the top, eventually found me trying to ease my way back down. I was truly scared. But when we reached town near dark about an hour-and-a-half later, I vowed all over again to make that climb and reach the top.
Somewhere in all of this adventure (including a rainstorm we had to deal with that made the rocks very slippery) is a story about setting goals, facing life-threatening challenges, getting close to the magnificence of nature and learning to appreciate some of the consistencies of our natural world that are not always as readily found in our fellow man. That mountain was overpowering, but I felt that as long as I had total respect for it, and its ability to cast me off like just another quartzite boulder, the mountain was at least going to give me a fair shake on my descent.
Life is full of challenges. We aren't always successful in meeting them either. But as long as we have the ambition to go back and try again, and as long as we can use the failures as well as the successes to improve and shape our lives, they are important to establish. I'm so sore and stiff and wounded this morning that I can barely negotiate a flight of stairs. But I'll bet you within two days I'll be back up there trying to reach the top again."
--Keith Reinhard

So what do you guys think after reading the letter? It really made me see the case in a new light (because before I was leaning towards possible suicide).

kamy · 03-14-2008, 11:32 AM

I'm leaning towards accidental death now. Very interesting.

angelina26 · 03-14-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kamy

I'm leaning towards accidental death now. Very interesting.

I totally agree!

Kane · 03-15-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by angelina26

Keith Reinhart said he was going to climb the mountain in Colorado although he had a fear of heights and Vertigo and going through a midlife crisis..anyways noone has found him.

I googled the heck out of it for updates and nada...

That's probably because you misspelled the last name. The actual spelling is Reinhard.

He is mentioned in an article dated November 30, 2007, nearly four months ago.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=85640

angelina26 · 03-15-2008, 07:28 PM

oh that would be why...thanks

Todd Mueller · 03-15-2008, 07:49 PM

That's good stuff, CD.

I have to admit, I was leaning strong to suicide when I first saw the story on UM. They pretty much paint that trail for the viewer in the story. When they read the quote from his book and then say how he went off, I think it would definitely make it sound like suicide.

But with the new evidence and looking at it from a different perspective, I think he went to climb a mountain and somehow had an accident.

Todd Mueller · 03-15-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane

That's probably because you misspelled the last name. The actual spelling is Reinhard.

He is mentioned in an article dated November 30, 2007, nearly four months ago.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=85640

Great find, Kane! Thanks for sharing the link.

If someone who knew him that well thinks it wasn't suicide, then it is even more evidence to me that it probably wasn't.

On one hand I think they would have found something, but thinking about how rugged the mountains can be and not knowing exactly where he was going, I suppose they could have just missed him.

I'd really like to see this one solved.

Kane · 03-16-2008, 01:21 PM

There is a new article that mentions Keith Reinhard. It is dated today (March 16, 2008). The article is about his grandson Kai Reinhard.

It also mentions that Sven Reinhard, Kai's uncle and Keith's oldest son, died of cardon monoxide poisoning in 2001.

(I recall that one of Keith's sons was interviewed on Unsolved Mysteries, but I don't remember whether it was Sven or another son of his.)

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=154694

mgm711 · 03-16-2008, 02:54 PM

i just literly watched that segment .I think most likely he became so involved in the book he was writing that he went into the mountains to see what Tom was thinking and feeling as a writer would and either got lost in the woods or did kill himself .the reason his body was never found I cant answer that .

crystaldawn · 03-28-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane

It also mentions that Sven Reinhard, Kai's uncle and Keith's oldest son, died of cardon monoxide poisoning in 2001.

(I recall that one of Keith's sons was interviewed on Unsolved Mysteries, but I don't remember whether it was Sven or another son of his.)

Its hard to believe that Keith is old enough to have a grandson in high school! Yes Sven Reinhard was the one interviewed in the segment. So sad to hear he's died.

colt45allstar · 03-29-2008, 02:07 AM

Yep it was indeed Sven.

Quite sad.

As for this new evidence... I still wouldn't rule suicide out.

Sure he sounds all excited about attempting the climb again and sure even a little happy go lucky to an extent.

I had a co worker wonderful guy a few years ago who I related to quite well. He was a very depressed person and having battled depression off and on for the last 13 or so years... I could feel his pain and it made sense to me.

Sadly he took his own life a few years ago and in the days prior he was as happy as I had ever seen him. Happy to the point that everyone at work, myself included felt he was making some real strides in overcoming his demons.

Turns out he was happy because he had made up his mind that he was ending it and there was nothing anyone could do to talk him out of it any longer. Quite sad.

What am I getting at? Well it's normal for a person who's decided to commit suicide to be happy in the days leading up to to the act itself. While you would think Keith if anything would have left a suicide note for his friends and family.. assuming of course that he did in fact kill himself... someone that down in the dumps isn't always the most rational thinker.

Perhaps the note was a cover of sorts.

Perhaps Keith decided that he didn't want to leave a suicide note, due to fear of his loved ones thinking they were in part to blame.. a stretch yes... but a possibility? sure...

For the record I was in fact leaning suicide and I am instead now in fact leaning toward accidental death, I would just simply not use the letter as a means of ruling suicide out altogether that's all.

justins5256 · 03-29-2008, 09:01 AM

I watched the NBC version this morning (it is identical to the Lifetime version, btw). I am torn between suicide and accident in Keith's disappearance. However, I do not believe that Keith or Tom were murdered. The UM segment did try to raise this issue because the bullet recovered from Tom Young's body couldn't be matched to his gun. I don't know much about ballistics but I'm wondering if the bullet could have just been in bad shape and therefore not identifiable. So, they can't say conclusively that it did come from his gun, but they can't prove it didn't either. UM also brought up the issue that the two men rented the same property and therefore could have discovered something that put their lives in danger. I think this is highly speculative at best, and not an impressive theory.

Also, the late Sven Reinhard was interviewed in the segment.

03-14-2008, 12:02 AM	#1
angelina26 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 16, 2006 Location: rochester Posts: 29	Keith Reinhard and Tom Young from Colorado Hey guys I just saw a segment about two guys from Colorado who owned the same bookstore at two different times...and they both disappeared.. The first guy, tom Young, said he was going to europe but they found his body along with his dog in the woods along with a revolver. Keith Reinhart said he was going to climb the mountain in Colorado although he had a fear of heights and Vertigo and going through a midlife crisis..anyways noone has found him. I googled the heck out of it for updates and nada...

03-16-2008, 01:21 PM	#11
Kane Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 07, 2001 Location: MA, United States Posts: 3,367	New article There is a new article that mentions Keith Reinhard. It is dated today (March 16, 2008). The article is about his grandson Kai Reinhard. It also mentions that Sven Reinhard, Kai's uncle and Keith's oldest son, died of cardon monoxide poisoning in 2001. (I recall that one of Keith's sons was interviewed on Unsolved Mysteries, but I don't remember whether it was Sven or another son of his.) http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=154694

03-16-2008, 02:54 PM	#12
mgm711 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 21, 2008 Location: pa Posts: 10	Keith Reinhart i just literly watched that segment .I think most likely he became so involved in the book he was writing that he went into the mountains to see what Tom was thinking and feeling as a writer would and either got lost in the woods or did kill himself .the reason his body was never found I cant answer that .

03-14-2008, 12:42 AM	#2
colt45allstar Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 09, 2006 Posts: 69	This is one of my all time favorite segments, have always wondered what happened to Keith.

03-14-2008, 12:46 AM	#3
Todd Mueller Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Posts: 1,626	I also loved this segment... Never been an update but two strong theories emerged. Based on how many people Keith told he was "just going for a hike," it is obvious he wanted people to know he was gone. One theory is that he went off to the mountains to kill himself. But more likely, he went to climb a mountain to prove something to himself and either fell and died or got lost and died. I would be anything that his body is lost in the mountains somewhere and will probably never be found due to how remote it is. VERY strange case though.

03-14-2008, 08:48 AM	#4
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Yep great segment. I'm a little aggravated at UM's portrayal of Keith Reinhard on this one. Someone from the board spoke with the police department where he went missing a few years ago and he still hadn't been found. This friend also sent me copies of several newspaper clippings of Tom and Keith's disappearance. UM made such a concerted effort to tie in the book Keith was writing on Tom but in the actual newspaper not one word was mentioned about it. There didn't seem to be a doubt that he just got lost up in the mountains but UM seemed to go out of their way to suggest something sinister or suicidal. Here is a a letter published in the newspaper that Keith had written to his wife just days before he went missing which show that he seemed to be in a very upbeat state of mind: "Yesterday Ted and I tried to conquer the ridge looking down on Silver Plume from the south. Ted made it. I didn't, reaching within 50-100 feet of the summit and all of a sudden getting panicky over my heights phobia. I wedged myself behind a scraggly spruce tree looking perhaps 1500 feet straight down at town and resigned myself to sleeping there overnight and waiting for a helicopter to rescue me the next day. Ted, who had taken a different route to the top, eventually found me trying to ease my way back down. I was truly scared. But when we reached town near dark about an hour-and-a-half later, I vowed all over again to make that climb and reach the top. Somewhere in all of this adventure (including a rainstorm we had to deal with that made the rocks very slippery) is a story about setting goals, facing life-threatening challenges, getting close to the magnificence of nature and learning to appreciate some of the consistencies of our natural world that are not always as readily found in our fellow man. That mountain was overpowering, but I felt that as long as I had total respect for it, and its ability to cast me off like just another quartzite boulder, the mountain was at least going to give me a fair shake on my descent. Life is full of challenges. We aren't always successful in meeting them either. But as long as we have the ambition to go back and try again, and as long as we can use the failures as well as the successes to improve and shape our lives, they are important to establish. I'm so sore and stiff and wounded this morning that I can barely negotiate a flight of stairs. But I'll bet you within two days I'll be back up there trying to reach the top again." --Keith Reinhard So what do you guys think after reading the letter? It really made me see the case in a new light (because before I was leaning towards possible suicide).

03-14-2008, 11:32 AM	#5
kamy UM Fanatic Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 625	I'm leaning towards accidental death now. Very interesting.

03-15-2008, 07:28 PM	#8
angelina26 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 16, 2006 Location: rochester Posts: 29	oh that would be why...thanks

03-15-2008, 07:49 PM	#9
Todd Mueller Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Posts: 1,626	That's good stuff, CD. I have to admit, I was leaning strong to suicide when I first saw the story on UM. They pretty much paint that trail for the viewer in the story. When they read the quote from his book and then say how he went off, I think it would definitely make it sound like suicide. But with the new evidence and looking at it from a different perspective, I think he went to climb a mountain and somehow had an accident.

03-29-2008, 02:07 AM	#14
colt45allstar Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 09, 2006 Posts: 69	Yep it was indeed Sven. Quite sad. As for this new evidence... I still wouldn't rule suicide out. Sure he sounds all excited about attempting the climb again and sure even a little happy go lucky to an extent. I had a co worker wonderful guy a few years ago who I related to quite well. He was a very depressed person and having battled depression off and on for the last 13 or so years... I could feel his pain and it made sense to me. Sadly he took his own life a few years ago and in the days prior he was as happy as I had ever seen him. Happy to the point that everyone at work, myself included felt he was making some real strides in overcoming his demons. Turns out he was happy because he had made up his mind that he was ending it and there was nothing anyone could do to talk him out of it any longer. Quite sad. What am I getting at? Well it's normal for a person who's decided to commit suicide to be happy in the days leading up to to the act itself. While you would think Keith if anything would have left a suicide note for his friends and family.. assuming of course that he did in fact kill himself... someone that down in the dumps isn't always the most rational thinker. Perhaps the note was a cover of sorts. Perhaps Keith decided that he didn't want to leave a suicide note, due to fear of his loved ones thinking they were in part to blame.. a stretch yes... but a possibility? sure... For the record I was in fact leaning suicide and I am instead now in fact leaning toward accidental death, I would just simply not use the letter as a means of ruling suicide out altogether that's all.

03-29-2008, 09:01 AM	#15
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	I watched the NBC version this morning (it is identical to the Lifetime version, btw). I am torn between suicide and accident in Keith's disappearance. However, I do not believe that Keith or Tom were murdered. The UM segment did try to raise this issue because the bullet recovered from Tom Young's body couldn't be matched to his gun. I don't know much about ballistics but I'm wondering if the bullet could have just been in bad shape and therefore not identifiable. So, they can't say conclusively that it did come from his gun, but they can't prove it didn't either. UM also brought up the issue that the two men rented the same property and therefore could have discovered something that put their lives in danger. I think this is highly speculative at best, and not an impressive theory. Also, the late Sven Reinhard was interviewed in the segment.