Why was CBS trying to do everything possible not to cancel this show? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TVFactFan · 02-24-2008, 04:15 PM

I mean usually when a show is struggling in the ratings, a network will just cancel it and be done with it but this show had so many time slot moves during it's original run to make you say-"why didn't CBS just cancel it if was moved that many times?

1st Move-to Wednesdays at 9:30pm
2nd move-to Saturday at 9:30pm
3rd Move-to Sunday at 9:30pm
4th Move-To 8:30pm on Sundays
5th Move-to 9pm on Sundays
6th move to Wednesdays at 9pm
7th move-to Mondays at 9pm
8th Move-to Sundays at 9:30pm
9th Move-to 8pm on Sundays
10th Move-to 9:30pm on Sundays
11th Move-to Tuesdays at 8:30pm

This many Moves and CBS Never gave up on it???-lol It showed that this show could not consistently deliver good ratings in no one set slot for a long period of time.

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Jude The Obscure · 02-26-2008, 02:14 AM

Look up the yearly ratings Sol, for a better picture of how "Alice" did. The years it was on Sunday nights, "Alice" was usually a Top 10/Top 20 performer.

TVFactFan · 02-26-2008, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jude86

Look up the yearly ratings Sol, for a better picture of how "Alice" did. The years it was on Sunday nights, "Alice" was usually a Top 10/Top 20 performer.

And then when it was taken off Sunday night it was doing bad again.

Jude The Obscure · 02-26-2008, 02:18 AM

This at a time when it was still a 3 Network universe and people still had to get their big ass off the couch to change the channel

Ireneparalegal · 02-26-2008, 02:19 AM

You have to look and see what it was that CBS was ADDING to the line-up to cause them to make those changes. Or, what the other two networks were showing that caused CBS to make changes regarding Alice.

TVFactFan · 02-26-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

You have to look and see what it was that CBS was ADDING to the line-up to cause them to make those changes. Or, what the other two networks were showing that caused CBS to make changes regarding Alice.

I still just find it strange to have a show moved so many times before saying-"this show is not performing well and it has to go". I see the last three years it didn't crack the top 30 at all

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Scoobiedoo30 · 02-27-2008, 10:02 PM

I nervery knew Alice aired on Monday's I just remembered Alice airing on Sunday's

Mr. Television · 02-27-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofTVResearch

I still just find it strange to have a show moved so many times before saying-"this show is not performing well and it has to go". I see the last three years it didn't crack the top 30 at all

82-83-ranked-??
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It was ranked #27 during the 1983-84 season. The final season it was DOA anyway especially when it was moved with the Jeffersons to Tuesdays opposite the A-Team. Everyone knew it was ending and unlike the Jeffersons they did film a last episode. In 1982-83 CBS made a mistake moving it to Wednesdays pairing it with the unfunny Filthy Rich and airing it opposite the Fall Guy and Family Ties. I didn't even follow it there and I was a big fan. No VCR back then...so luckily it was moved back to Sunday.

FredScuttle · 02-27-2008, 10:51 PM

I remember it being on Sunday most of it's run too. I didn't watch it the first couple seasons, but I did from about 1979 on. (I saw the first 3 seasons on the daily morning CBS airings, at least during the summer. I'm sure I missed some though). It was on Sunday nights in the 9th season, but moved to Tuesdays starting January 8th, 1985. Do you have the dates it made all those switches? I notice a bunch of the changes were just different time slots on Sundays,

TVFactFan · 02-27-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Clint Eastwood Fan

It was ranked #27 during the 1983-84 season. The final season it was DOA anyway especially when it was moved with the Jeffersons to Tuesdays opposite the A-Team. Everyone knew it was ending and unlike the Jeffersons they did film a last episode. In 1982-83 CBS made a mistake moving it to Wednesdays pairing it with the unfunny Filthy Rich and airing it opposite the Fall Guy and Family Ties. I didn't even follow it there and I was a big fan. No VCR back then...so luckily it was moved back to Sunday.

No way to TIVO it Sonny in 83?-LOL

Ireneparalegal · 02-28-2008, 12:00 AM

I would love to see a schedule for all three networks during the 1/2 hour ALICE was shown...I am sure the changes had to do with what was being aired on NBC and ABC as well as any changes CBS had going on (adding shows or cancelling shows).

Also, the seasons (years) those changes took place.

TVFactFan · 02-28-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FredScuttle

I remember it being on Sunday most of it's run too. I didn't watch it the first couple seasons, but I did from about 1979 on. (I saw the first 3 seasons on the daily morning CBS airings, at least during the summer. I'm sure I missed some though). It was on Sunday nights in the 9th season, but moved to Tuesdays starting January 8th, 1985. Do you have the dates it made all those switches? I notice a bunch of the changes were just different time slots on Sundays,

Aug 1976-Monday at 9:30pm
Sept-1976-Oct-1976-Wednesdays at 9:30pm
Nov-1976-Sept-1977-Saturdays at 9:30pm
Oct-1977-Oct-1978-Sundays at 9:30pm
Oct-1978-Feb-1979-Sundaya at 8:30pm
Mar-1979-Set-1982-Sundays at 9pm
Oct-1982-Nov-1982-Wednesdays at 9pm

HIATUS from Dec 1982 to Feb 1983

March-1983-Apr-1983-Mondays at 9pm
Apr-1983-May-1983-Sundays at 9:30pm
Jun-1983-Jan-1984-Sundays at 9pm
Jan-1984-Dec-1984-Sundays at 9:30pm
Jan-1985-March-1985-Tuesdays at 8:30pm

HIATUS from April 1985-May-1985

Mr. Television · 02-28-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ireneparalegal

I would love to see a schedule for all three networks during the 1/2 hour ALICE was shown...I am sure the changes had to do with what was being aired on NBC and ABC as well as any changes CBS had going on (adding shows or cancelling shows).

Also, the seasons (years) those changes took place.

1976-77 Wednesday ( Paired with AITF))- ABC Baretta, NBC Movie
1976-77 Saturday- ( Paired with AITF)- ABC Starsky & Hutch, NBC Movie
1977-78 Sunday -( paired with AITF)- both ABC And NBC had movies on
1978-79 Sunday ( paired with AITF)- both ABC and NBC had movies on
In October 1978 the variety show Mary was canceled and Alice moved up to 8:30 paired with ( AITF again) see AITF is moved all the time with Alice too. Movie's once again on the other networks.
March 1979- 1982 it was paired mostly with the Jeffersons . This was Alice's peak years. Movies are on the other 2 networks.
Fall 1982 it aired on Wednesdays with Filthy Rich opposite the Fall Guy and the Facts of Life which was paired with Family Ties. It was put on Hiatus until March when on Mondays it returned against That's Incredible and LHOTP.
1983-84 it was back on Sundays at 8. It now led off the night paired with ODAAT. ABC had Hardcastle & McCormick and NBC had Knight Rider. In January 1984 it moved to 9:30 paired with the Jeffersons again opposite movies on the other 2 networks. It stayed there into the 1984-85 season until December 1984. Then in January 1985 it and the Jeffersons were given the Tuesday death slot opposite the A-Team.

Mr. Television · 02-28-2008, 12:32 AM

I hope you can understand it Irene. If you don't just ask me. I got the schedule in front of me.

Ireneparalegal · 02-28-2008, 12:34 AM

*Keanu Reeves voice* EXCELLENT SONNY!!!!!

Thank you.

02-24-2008, 04:15 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,065	Why was CBS trying to do everything possible not to cancel this show? I mean usually when a show is struggling in the ratings, a network will just cancel it and be done with it but this show had so many time slot moves during it's original run to make you say-"why didn't CBS just cancel it if was moved that many times? 1st Move-to Wednesdays at 9:30pm 2nd move-to Saturday at 9:30pm 3rd Move-to Sunday at 9:30pm 4th Move-To 8:30pm on Sundays 5th Move-to 9pm on Sundays 6th move to Wednesdays at 9pm 7th move-to Mondays at 9pm 8th Move-to Sundays at 9:30pm 9th Move-to 8pm on Sundays 10th Move-to 9:30pm on Sundays 11th Move-to Tuesdays at 8:30pm This many Moves and CBS Never gave up on it???-lol It showed that this show could not consistently deliver good ratings in no one set slot for a long period of time. Info from Complete Directory to Primetime Netwrk and Cable TV shows

02-26-2008, 02:19 AM	#5
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	You have to look and see what it was that CBS was ADDING to the line-up to cause them to make those changes. Or, what the other two networks were showing that caused CBS to make changes regarding Alice.
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02-27-2008, 10:02 PM	#7
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02-26-2008, 02:14 AM	#2
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,520	Look up the yearly ratings Sol, for a better picture of how "Alice" did. The years it was on Sunday nights, "Alice" was usually a Top 10/Top 20 performer.

02-26-2008, 02:18 AM	#4
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,520	This at a time when it was still a 3 Network universe and people still had to get their big ass off the couch to change the channel

02-27-2008, 10:51 PM	#9
FredScuttle Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 31, 2005 Posts: 477	I remember it being on Sunday most of it's run too. I didn't watch it the first couple seasons, but I did from about 1979 on. (I saw the first 3 seasons on the daily morning CBS airings, at least during the summer. I'm sure I missed some though). It was on Sunday nights in the 9th season, but moved to Tuesdays starting January 8th, 1985. Do you have the dates it made all those switches? I notice a bunch of the changes were just different time slots on Sundays,

02-28-2008, 12:00 AM	#11
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	I would love to see a schedule for all three networks during the 1/2 hour ALICE was shown...I am sure the changes had to do with what was being aired on NBC and ABC as well as any changes CBS had going on (adding shows or cancelling shows). Also, the seasons (years) those changes took place.

02-28-2008, 12:32 AM	#14
Mr. Television 23 Years at Sitcoms Online Forum Icon Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Location: Somewhere you're Not Posts: 62,132	I hope you can understand it Irene. If you don't just ask me. I got the schedule in front of me.

02-28-2008, 12:34 AM	#15
Ireneparalegal LEGAL SPICE ;) Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 25, 2005 Location: OXNARD, CA - WHERE THE DALLAS COWBOYS TRAIN & PRACTICE Posts: 38,691	Keanu Reeves voice EXCELLENT SONNY!!!!! Thank you.